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Adam Everett & the Art of Driving in 8 Spring Runners While Hitting .133

I'm amazed he got as many RBI's as he did this spring (8).

--- Stros Bro

Well, not to say that Adam didn't have a shitty spring, but I don't know if I'm amazed as all that. Dave Raymond was talking about this during Saturday's game, how it at least seems like AE squeezes the maximum damage out of the minimum performance.

I think we saw it last year, when he garnered as many 2006 Game Hero Awards as any other hitter besides Berkman, while hitting a paltry .239.

And comparisons of this sort aren't that easy, but consider Josh Barfield. Barfield was the Padre's most frequent number 8 hitter. He played the infield for a middle of the road offensive team, got 500 at bats, drove in 52--and batted .280. Everett--pretty darn similar if I have to say so myself--of course hit .239.

I would never suggest that AE was "clutch." If you're clutch you're gonna hit .280 regularly, and then get better when it counts, seems to me. But on the other hand, he had a lot of RBI's for a number 7 guy who hit .239, no?

Take a look at this:

2006 Batting Average and RBI Opportunities Converted
Player RBI OBI ROB OBI% AVG SLG AVG - OBI% SLG-OBI%
Orlando Palmeiro 17 17 78 .218 .252 .319 .034 .101
Jason Lane 45 30 201 .149 .201 .392 .052 .243
Eric Munson 19 14 113 .124 .199 .348 .075 .224
Adam Everett 59 53 385 .138 .239 .352 .101 .214
Lance Berkman 136 91 426 .214 .315 .621 .101 .407
Craig Biggio 62 41 306 .134 .246 .422 .112 .288
Preston Wilson 55 46 296 .155 .269 .405 .114 .250
Aubrey Huff 38 25 195 .128 .250 .478 .122 .350
Team Averages 708 521 3972 .131 .255 .409 .124 .278
Brad Ausmus 39 37 349 .106 .230 .285 .124 .179
Morgan Ensberg 58 35 329 .106 .235 .463 .129 .357
Chris Burke 40 31 246 .126 .276 .418 .150 .292
Eric Bruntlett 10 10 83 .120 .277 .345 .157 .225
Willy Taveras 30 29 266 .109 .278 .338 .169 .229
Mike Lamb 45 33 245 .135 .307 .475 .172 .340
Humberto Quintero 2 2 13 .154 .333 .429 .179 .275
Luke Scott 37 27 182 .148 .336 .621 .188 .473
Charlton Jimerson 1 0 2 .000 .333 .833 .333 .833
A-Fraud 121 86 534 .161 .290 .523 .129 .359

Some of these numbers were taken from Baseball Prospectus. OBI is "Others Batted In," and means RBI's less the RBI you get for hitting a homer and driving yourself in. ROB is runners on base when you came to the plate, and OBI% is a ratio of the two, purporting to express RBI opportunities successfully converted. You probably know that Lance Berkman finished 2006 as one of only three players in the majors who had an OBI% above .210, and that he led the majors in that stat for most of the year.

I put A-Fraud in to compare, because he might be this hypothesized Everett of ours' evil opposite: lots of production, but less of it with runners on. You can see that his numbers might actually support this prejudice that many have.

Anyway, my thinking is that if I could somehow compare your standard rate stats (in which most of us would agree Adam frankly stinks) and your OBI% (in which Adam was better than team average), you'd get a number that might convey what Raymond was trying to express about Adam during yesterday's broadcast.

If you'd direct your attention to the column BA - OBI%, I might then make the following statement: that those players towards the top of that list, those with the smallest difference between their batting average and their OBI percentage, appear to have "been better" or at least have done the bulk of their production with runners on base.

And though this might not be a player's fault, those towards the bottom of the list had more damage done with the bases empty. Look at CJ. His only RBI came from the solo shot he hit off Cole Hamels, and therefore none of his average can be expressed in Others Batted In.

I know this isn't perfect. Batting Average and OBI percent are two different ratios with two different, um, denominators, if I remember my grade school math correctly, so I know you can't, strictly speaking, subtract them. And certainly looking at the SLG - OBI column you can see how everything could go off kilter. Like, Berkman's BA and OBI are close enough where you might say something like, "he was just as good with runners on as when they weren't" or something of that nature. But when you try to introduce the slugging, the average weighted by total bases, because his slugging was so high to begin with, he plummets to the bottom of the list, next to Luke.

I think this is because slugging is recorded on a larger scale than the OBI% number is, whereas BA is basically recorded in a similar though translated 200 point range. And as far as unlike denominators, the idea of OPS shows that sometimes adding unlike numbers can give you a useful answer anyway.

So based on that, I guess I'd say I believe that the AVG-OBI% numbers anyway DO hang together, and they DO show that Adam has a little secret talent: Although I will still be going off on his sorry-hitting ass this if he doesn't get his average into at least the high .240's, I think he really doesn't suck as much as it may at first glance appear, and the sabermetricians, in wantonly disregarding the RBI the way they have, would be even less likely to see it than Raymond or--ahem--I have.

I would certainly be interested in your input about all this.

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I can see where you are going with it
The way you are looking at it is like a personal clutch factor based on player ability, not all abilities being equal.

All abilities being equal you probably want the guy at the plate with the highest SLG% with men on or with men in scoring position. While OBP is always the most important aspect of any hitters game a high SLG with men on would give you the guy that is the best at producing RBIs.

I don't agree or disagree with anything because no one was trying to make a point. Adam did have what seemed like a lot of RBIs last year with the poor season he had. A hardcore sabre would tell you that stat is most likely luck driven.

On the other thing: Do you remember if Adam won any Game hero awards for his glove or combination that may be throwing off that number?

All in all I would say that this analysis does help out Everett looking at 2006 and that probably can't be a bad thing. The probability of him being as bad or worse this year is very low anyway considering he may have to go blind to do so.

Jennings 2001 PCL 131.2IP 9.91H/9 0.62HR/9 2.80BB/9 7.52K/9 1.41WHIP Hirsh 2006 PCL 137.1IP 6.16H/9 0.33HR/9 3.34BB/9 7.73K/9 1.06WHIP

by Shamus on Apr 1, 2007 10:47 PM CDT reply actions  

I came to similar conclusion about AE
Near the end of last season, I did an analysis of Astros' starters (e.g., exclude Palmeiro)in which I compared the percent of runners on base who scored when the batter came up with runners on base. However, I weighted the percentage by the number of bases advanced by the runner who scored (i.e., 3 bases advanced if runner scores from 1st; 2 bases advanced if runner scores from 2d).  This methodology had been used in an article at Beyond the Boxscore to rank MVP candidates at the time. That article had ranked Berkman as best in the NL.

What surprised the heck out of me?  Everett was 2d highest on the team, behind only Berkman and Scott.  And he was barely behind Scott.  In trying to explain this, I came up with a couple of ideas.   First, Everett came up with a lot of runners on base, most likely because pitchers pitched carefully to the 5 and 6 hitter with Everett/Ausmus coming up...therefore, Everett had a lot of opportunities (in fact, more than anybody).  Second, though, Everett had some success in clearing the bases, when given a lot of opportunities to do so.  Beyond a simple BA w/RISP, Everett seemed to get a big bang for each RBI hit.  Why is that?  My guess is that the other team's outfield defense may play Everett shallow with multiple runners on base, and that when Everett gets the ball over the outfielders' head, everybody on base gets to run a long way.  It is also possible that he may have faced a disproportionate number of situations when all runners were running on the pitch.  Whatever factors may have affected Everett's ranking, still you have to give him credit for the actual results.

While Everett will never be know as a great hitter, I think his productivity is overlooked.

by clack on Apr 2, 2007 8:27 AM CDT reply actions  

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