Astros' Statement Does Not Go Far Enough
If you hadn't seen it, Drayton McLane has released his comment on the Mitchell report through the Astros website.
It's short, and it's hardly original, so I hope the Astros and Mr. McLane don't mind my reproducing it in its entirety here:
Now that the Mitchell Report has been released, the Houston Astros are currently reviewing its contents. The Astros support the process that has taken place to compile this report, as well as the recommendations offered by Senator George Mitchell.As we move forward, we will continue to strongly support the testing program agreed upon by the Commissioner's Office and the Players Association. We feel this program is an effective step in eradicating the use of performance-enhancing substances, and we continue to support this endeavor 100 percent. We also wish to thank Senator Mitchell for his efforts.
I comprehend that a 311-page document is not digested immediately, so the idea that the Astros must review its contents is certainly understandable.
But as an Astros fan, as I myself do the reviewing of today's news, I have several concerns that the Astros' press release leave unaddressed.
The first thing I worry about is how my favorite team, the franchise to which I devote my heart and my time and my dollars, has all of a sudden acquired a reputation as a haven for steroids users.
How did this happen? You don't choose the team you follow--it's much more involved than that--but if I had chosen franchises to follow, I would have chosen the Houston Astros because of their belief--at the VERY least during the McLane regime--that character is an important component in a ballplayer.
While I make no claims at moral perfection myself, I don't think it is unreasonable for me to say that this belief in the importance of character is fundamental to my fandom.
Yet, strangely, now the team that has asked its fans to "root for the good guys" for the past two years can count in its ranks and in its alumni a bevy of players who at the very least are seriously implicated in a sport-wide movement to cheat the game, and its fans.
Roger Clemens is entitled to scream his innocence, but for right now it appears that the club's last Cy Young winner--and the absolute key to the Astros' only NL pennant--has been guilty of cheating. And as things stand right now, that same Cy Young winner will be representing the Houston Astros to young players for the next ten years. Do I as a fan want that? Do the Astros as a team want that? This is a complicated issue, but I believe Mr. McLane as CEO should weigh in on this matter.
Andy Pettitte doesn't have a personal services contract with the team, nor does it appear he wants anything to do with the Astros at all. But he has left a legacy with the team, most notably as the team's 2005 Pitcher of the Year. And now, of course, as a steroids user, as well. My question for McLane with Pettitte might be, what could the Astros have done to have screened our applicants, so to speak, a little better? I'd not suggest that the Astros knew Pettitte was cheating, or had cheated, when they signed him, but I would ask, what might we have done to ascertain that fact a little better? Wasn't there anything the club could have done to realize that they were hiring a cheater?
And now our new shortstop wrote checks for thousands of dollars worth of HGH. Great.
Five prospects, good young men, good young players, gone, in exchange for a cheat. With Tejada, what I want to know, Mr, McLane, quite bluntly, is can this trade be annulled? Given the fact we now know within reasonable doubt that our new shortstop is a cheat and a criminal, can't we send him back whence he came?
I honestly can't figure out how I'd get all that excited watching a known HGH user clean up for the Astros in 160 games next year.
Given my past support of the club, through stadium changes, ownership changes, through managerial changes, through losing seasons, and through bad trades, I'll probably figure something out, but right now, I wanna go watch a movie or something, I want to read a book, anything but think about baseball.
I don't even wanna look at any of my 22,000 Astro baseball cards, and those who know me, know that's saying quite a bit.
I can only hope that attittude changes before April, and if any other fans share my feelings, the club had better hope so, too.
Some fans have expressed relief or even joy that two of the Astros' icons, Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio, were not named in the Mitchell report. And given the nature of rumor, and that these days, we are all certain to hear even the most vicious of them, we should be happy that these false tales about great players and good men were not proven true. But overall, today's news was bad, very bad, for the franchise.
When outside parties look in, they see that the Astros have employed as many high-profile steroids cheats as any team in baseball, from "pioneers" like the now-deceased Ken Caminiti to players as new as yesterday. And if Chris Donnels and Stephen Randolph aren't household names, they still are able to reinforce the idea among those who know no better that Houston has not only tolerated cheating, they have long done so. It's a poor reputation to acquire, and one that distresses me as a fan when I spend any time at all thinking about it.
It threatens my fandom.
Mr. McLane, we all "strongly support the testing program agreed upon by the Commissioner's Office and the Players Association."
But what can you tell us about this franchise we all love so much? Why were these cheaters here? Why are they still here? When will they leave?
I don't claim to represent all fans, but I'd guess at least half your fans want to know.
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With Tejada, what I want to know, Mr, McLane, quite bluntly, is can this trade be annulled? Given the fact we now know within reasonable doubt that our new shortstop is a cheat and a criminal, can't we send him back whence he came?Like I said in response to a diary... If the Astros didn't at least have a strong hunch that Tejada could be on this list, then they are ignorant and should be fired.
My thoughts are that the Astros knew about it and made the trade before the report came out to save a little face. They got the player they wanted, and being able to (at least publicly) say that they didn't know he was a steroid users when trading for him will save a little face. No way they could make this trade tomorrow... even if they wanted to.
by Stros Bro on
Dec 13, 2007 7:54 PM CST
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MLB prepared a sample news statement
If it helps any, the Mitchell Report doesn't indicate that Clemens and Pettitte were using PEDs while they pitched with the Astros. For most of their tenure with the Astros, steroids testing was in place (though that doesn't detect HGH). Perhaps that preserves a bit of honor for the Astros 2005 World Series run.
I agree with much of what Stros Bro wrote. In fact, I found myself thinking yesterday that perhaps Wade wanted to hurry up and get the trade done, because of the liklihood that any disclosure of Tejada's PED use would make it difficult, if not impossible, to consummate the deal in the face of strong public condemnation.
I agree with Mitchell's view that MLB should not suspend or penalize players for past steroid use, unless the acts are so egregious that they threaten the game. Selig should discard his "get tough" mask and announce that he will take Mitchell's advice and move forward, rather than getting involved in protracted litigation with the players' association in an effort to impose suspensions. The Report had its intended impact of showing the pervasiveness of the problem and the complicity of all parties. Now baseball needs to set a strict system in place going forward and commit itself to implementing the report's recommendations.
My advice to the players is that they should "come clean," tell the truth, and apologize to their fans. That can happen more readily if Selig doesn't threaten to suspend everyone who apologizes.
by clack on
Dec 13, 2007 8:49 PM CST
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I agree with Mitchell and Clack that it is time to move on. Admitting federal felonies may not be such a good idea since prosecutors are not bound by Mitchell's suggestion and are strongly motivated to prosecute public figures who have broken the law.
by rwallis on
Dec 13, 2007 9:10 PM CST
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Make that 6 lost Astros
by Joe in Birmingham on
Dec 13, 2007 9:44 PM CST
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If the only one on the Astros organization
As for Clemens and Pettitte and Tejada? If Tejada's clean now, I don't mind him covering shortstop. Like I've said before, I'm willing to forgive for the past. The present? If they're caught now and beyond they should be banned from baseball. I'm just kind of happy Clemens was knocked down a peg or two.
by saylinara on
Dec 13, 2007 10:19 PM CST
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I agree
And I agree about taking Clemens down a peg or two. While his stance of discrediting McNamee's testimony is not without merit (the guy was being threatened with prosecution, it is true), it is probably Clemens' retribution for consorting with a sleaze like McNamee for so long. I have been disenchanted with Clemens since the SI article last year detailing how Roger stood by and continued to employ McNamee after the trainer was fired from the Yankees after being charged with rape. Yes, the charges were dropped and he wasn't prosecuted. But to me it still showed poor judgment on Clemens' part, and makes me wonder if he simply continued to use the guy because he knew he had something on him?
Also, someone on this blog in 2006 had projected that the Astros would part ways with both Clemens and Pettitte after their names were supposedly redacted in the Grimsley affadavit. I didn't suppose at the time that the Astros were so noble, but then as both players walked, and appeared so disproportionately whiney about it, the thought recurred. Now, though, the signing of Tejada, however positioned to allow posturing, would seem to argue otherwise.
by Danyah on
Dec 14, 2007 5:42 AM CST
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Randolph...
by clack on
Dec 14, 2007 10:15 AM CST
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I'm Disappointed In Everything I Read Here
The only way to move on is to aggressively identify what went wrong and why, and outliune a plan to do exactly the opposite in the future.
But why do that when platitudes appear to work?
by rastronomicals on
Dec 14, 2007 6:16 AM CST
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I don't think
I'm not saying things shouldn't change. I'm all for a lifetime ban if they are caught using steroids or HGH from this date on. Why do people need a second and third chance for something they clearly know to be wrong.
What went wrong? The '94 strike.
Why it went wrong? Baseball needed a rejuvanation around the time that steroids were becoming popular. Better players meant more fans and more fans meant more money.
by saylinara on
Dec 14, 2007 10:38 AM CST
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Was this enough?
Was this enough? I believe there are more "cheaters" out there that have yet to be caught and may not ever be caught! Tales of how managers and owners knew what was going on during all of this can be also disturbing. (I mean seriously they had to know something) At what cost are they going to be held liable? These are the people who are making all this money off these cheating players!!!
I agree with some of what is said, i didn't just choose the Astro franchise! I need more than a generic answer! I want my honest players back!
All that being said, just putting it behind us is like saying "hey i see you defaced the greatest sport in the world, just don't let us catch you cheating...uhhh i mean don't cheat again!"
In my job...if i Cheat on something, i get to take a lovely trip to prison, now i dont believe in prison for this act, but hey something needs to be done, not just to the players but the managers and owners as well...this is not just a solo act!
by theorangeman31 on
Dec 14, 2007 8:04 AM CST
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Identifying what went wrong?
As an example from the Report...the Indians' team physician wrote a memo to the team owner after attending a MLB conference in 1999. The MLB's medical director had made a slide presentation which emphasized the research showing that steroids were very effective in improving baseball skills and downplayed any harmful effects. The physician was aghast, because he thought the presentation encouraged GMs to welcome steroids in order to improve their team.
If anything the report makes me less angry with Barry Bonds, because I realize that he shouldn't be singled out. I am now convinced of something I had previously just feared to be true: that baseball was awash in steroids and PEDs were likely used by a large number if not most MLB players. The 80-some names surely are the tip of the iceberg. Tejeda and Clemens just got caught up with the two dealers who happened to be caught by the feds. Is it believable that these are the only two sources of steroids in baseball? No. The fact that many, many more players were doing exactly what they were doing at the time is one reason I think imposing penalties for actions before 2005 (when HGH was banned and steroids testing was in full force) isn't worthwhile. I also think that legal battles between players and MLB are both costly and counterproductive to the task at hand, which is putting as transparent a testing and enforcement scheme in place as possible.
Because the Report is a small sampling of the problem, I don't agree that it demonstrates that the Astros' players were any better or worse than other teams. (Now, Wade's decision making on the Tejada trade is more problematic, and something I have difficulty understanding.) Given the fact that steroids use was so pervasive, I'm not as willing to throw Clemens, Pettitte, and Tejada under the bus, and I'm not even sure it reveals something bad about their character. However, if the named players continue to lie and make up stories, then it will not reflect well on their character. If the player's association continues to resist needed changes (like testing for HGH, once a test becomes viable), that will bother me also.
by clack on
Dec 14, 2007 8:25 AM CST
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Another Unaddressed Subject
http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/mariners/2007/12/mitchell_report_looms.html
A passage from that article:
"That story was about the so-called "buscones" -- unlicensed street agents who gather up all the young ballplayers they can find on the streets of the Dominican and "groom" them to become professionals as young as age 16. How are these prospects groomed? Well, for one thing, major league teams scouring for talent at that age will want to see young players who physically show them something.
How does a great young player gain physical maturity by age 16 or 17? Well, some are truly gifted, freaks of nature. Others get help from a needle. Even the truly gifted ones get a needle boost at times. Injections are nothing to young Dominican boys, who start taking vitamin B-12 shots given by their teams and "buscones" at ages as young as 11 or 12. Mix some performance enhancing drugs into those shots and well, the vitamin "boost" becomes bigger.
How did Rafael Palmeiro say he wound up with the anabolic steroid stanozolol in his system? Why, from a B-12 shot given him by then-Baltimore teammate Miguel Tejada, subject of today's big swap with the Astros. Yeah, still taking B-12 shots in the majors. Some habits die hard.
That's kind of my point. You can pass all the rules you like, provide education to players about the harm such drugs can do to their system, but the bottom line is: old habits are hard to break. When you've been groomed on steroids or farm animal supplements from even before you're a teenager, it's going to be psychologically difficult to break your dependence -- even if it's only a mental one -- on such performance enhancers. Ballplayers are a very superstitious, highly-regimented bunch. The Dominican ballplayer who escaped a horrible life of poverty by hitting a baseball further than anyone else is going to be reluctant to stop taking enhancers if that's something he's been doing all of his life."
This article at ESPN about the use of B-12 shots by Latin American players is also related to the Tejada situation.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2763270
by clack on
Dec 14, 2007 8:57 AM CST
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Investigation Incomplete
I think that if you take a trainer from each club house, tell them they either talk or get life in prison, you'd get the same story from them about players from the lowest paid to the biggest stars in the club house.
This was a small sampling that seemed like a witch hunt, especially for Clemens and Pettitte. Most of the other's had checks to back up their purhcases. These two had a guy that was looking at hard time. Does that mean they didn't do it? No, but it's not solid evidence they did, either.
by Infotech on
Dec 14, 2007 9:03 AM CST
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Exactly.
by Danyah on
Dec 14, 2007 3:10 PM CST
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PRIOR
http://mlbfleecefactor.com/2007/12/14/astros-contact-mark-prior/
that could have bad contract written all over it. although it is tempting...
by em3 on
Dec 14, 2007 9:16 AM CST
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I'm With Rastro
Every one of the players named in the report should be summarily fired. Outright, and on principle.
The CBA should be revoked and not signed again until the player's union agrees to severe penalties for the accused players. For instance, steep fines (millions), salary caps, automatic years off (at least two, if not five), forever banished from possibly appearing in hall of fame... That's just a start.
If it provokes another strike, I would do it, as an owner. I'd pick up the scabs from the Round Rock Express and Corpus Hooks and use them for the next five years before agreeing to a CBA that doesn't punish the implicated players with as big a stick as is accessible.
THEN, in about ten years, after players and owners have been in the doghouse, perhaps a message will have been sent that this crap will not be tolerated.
I can't think of anything else which would cause a player to think twice, no three times, no four times, no five times, when confronted with the temptation to use a performance enhancing substance more powerful than Gatorade.
by pel on
Dec 14, 2007 5:33 PM CST
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Astros acquire Valverde as closer...
(from Astros.com)
Now we have an established closer.
Sign one pitcher and we are set.
by blakemusn on
Dec 14, 2007 5:34 PM CST
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i beat Shamus
by BigTexBD on
Dec 14, 2007 5:43 PM CST
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I...what?
It is dangerous to hold human beings to saintly standards, and to stake the entirety of your baseball faith on those standards is problematic.
Baseball has been filled with scoundrels from its earliest days. It's nothing personal.
As far as any of us know, to rescind the Tejada trade would be to reclaim 5 juicers instead of just one. Speculation, sure, but there's nothing to prove that this wouldn't be the case.
by alamosweet on
Dec 14, 2007 5:45 PM CST
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Looking back one more time
Looking back, it is clear that Tejada used steroids, it is likely that he quit, or so his performance stats would indicate. It is likely that several other Astros were on the stuff but their names haven't yet surfaced. Perhaps we will all be much better off if they don't, as our perceptions of at least one of our all time favorites might be forever altered. For sure, there was much opportunity to use when Camminiti was on the team. Looking back is only useful for the purpose of learning how to control future usage. And I would remind each of you that there is still no viable way to detect or control HGH, usage of which may yet continue to be a problem.
Looking ahead, there must be spirited and sincere cooperation between the players and management if this problem is to be controlled. That should be the number one priority, as history shows that such cooperation on any issue has never existed in the past for any significant period. The real value of all of the reports and investigations will be measured by how effectively the problem can be managed, if not completely solved.
Other than that we have little choice but to get over it and hope the game moves ahead.
by bwhite2323 on
Dec 14, 2007 7:38 PM CST
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