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Carlos Lee Wins Silver Slugger

Hot damn.

Of course, they picked two left-fielders and no right-fielder, but if it works for the All-Star Game, then it should work for the Silver Slugger, too, huh?

Also notable is David Wright, who had to be considered a shoo-in for the Silver Slugger, once we had the unbelievable news that he'd actually been given the Gold Glove.

But I digress, and back to Caballo:  ultra-prestigious or not, perhaps the piece of hardware given Carlito will convince  Phil Rogers that Lee did in fact help the Astros win more than a game or two last season.  

Just off the top of my head, I know Lee had two walkoff homers and a three-homer game in 2007.  I'm down with Rogers' contention that the Astros need to focus on rebuilding, but his statement that Lee "piled up impressive statistics but rarely won games for his team" is flat out stupid.

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Phil Rogers
Wow... Phil Rogers is fantastically ill-informed. I am very tired of sportswriters who write on a national level who are just plain lazy.
Red Delicious

by Joey747474 on Nov 9, 2007 5:47 PM CST reply actions  

Phil Rogers...
only cares about the Cubs.  Sure, he wants the Astros to trade Roy Oswalt because he probably thinks that Roy would end up with the Cubbies. He is delusional.  He has written several times in previous years that the Cubs should be the most attractive place for Roger Clemens.  Like most Cubs' fans, he would like nothing better than the Astros trading all their good players and sitting in the toilet for awhile.

by clack on Nov 9, 2007 6:37 PM CST reply actions  

Woot! EL CABALLO!!!
Now let's get one for every position player next year! :p
Lee, Pence, Scott in '08

by entropic soul on Nov 9, 2007 7:59 PM CST reply actions  

I noticed on BBTF's
comments on this article...that several people were complaining that it is a travesty that Lee won the award.  Apparently they think Adam Dunn should have won over Lee because of a higher OPS and HR total.  I don't buy that argument.  First, Lee is 2d among LFers to Holliday in Runs Created...so it makes sense that both Holliday and Lee get Silver Sluggers.  Second, in the case of a Silver Slugger award, I can see giving some weight to RBIs for middle of the order hitters.  Although it is a lineup-dependent statistic, RBIs are part of the job description for LFers and 1st basemen, who are at typical "slugging" positions.  Third, although I like Dunn and think he is valuable, Dunn is clearly more one dimensional as a hitter than Lee.

by clack on Nov 9, 2007 8:15 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah!
What clack said.

Call me old fashioned (and I know you will) but I kind of think the Silver Slugger should go the best hitter at each position.  You know, who hits the ball the best.

Although Dunn was better in 2007, and actually had a respectable batting average for a change, he struck out 100 times more than Lee, and a goodly percentage of his offensive value came from the walk, which like the k, does not involve actually hitting the baseball.

I won't deny Dunn has value, but he's not a Silver Slugger, and my guess is he never will be.

Cortisone shots: Not just for overpaid athletes anymore.

by rastronomicals on Nov 9, 2007 8:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Chipper Jones is...
complaining about David Wright winning the Gold Glove at 3d base.  Wright had 21 errors, while Chipper had 8 errors, least in the NL (though Chipper was 3d in fielding percent, behind Feliz and A. Ramirez).  I have to agree with Jones about Wright.  Although I think errors and fielding percent are overrated as a fielding stats, that many errors seems excessive for a GG winner.  I think Wright generally has good range, but his revised zone rating was only so-so this year.  One can congratulate Chipper on holding down his errors this year, but I don't think his defensive range is good enough to deserve a Gold Glove.  (His revised zone rating reflects that his range isn't great also.)
Chipper said he wouldn't complain if Feliz or Aramis Ramirez had won the Gold Glove.  I agree with him there.  Pedro Feliz should have won the GG, IMO.  He had the best fielding percent and the best revized zone rating...and most other defensive metric systems confirm that his range is top rate.  (Feliz won the Fielding Bible's Golden Glove at 3d base for both leagues.)  Aramis Ramirez and Ryan Zimmerman wouldn't have been bad choices either, given their revised zone rating.  It is interesting that A-Ram, who had a richly deserved reputation as a defensive butcher at one time, has now become a very good defensive 3d baseman.

Why did Wright win it?  Is this an example of offensive stats influencing the Gold Glove award?

by clack on Nov 10, 2007 11:00 AM CST reply actions  

YES Clack
Remember when Raffie Palmeiro won the GG but only played about 80 games at first?  Some of the GG voting is hitting, some is repuation, and A LOT is stupid voters who don't bother to research what they are voting for.  I am guessing the voters get it right about half the time.   Wright was not included in that half IMO.
It's the next generation of Astros. Let's see if they can play like the men they are replacing.

by TBurford on Nov 10, 2007 4:14 PM CST reply actions  

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