Preview/Matchup/Game Thread Game # 52 at Cardinals
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| Roy Oswalt | Jason Marquis |
| 5 - 3, 3.36 | 6 - 4, 5.12 |
So here's something odd.
Looking at Marquis' ERA and his won-loss record, you immediately think that he's been the recipient of good run support.
And he has been. Although he ranks only fourth on his staff, Marquis ranks sixteenth in the league in run support at 5.54 runs per 9 innings of work.
Fair enough, but it turns out Roy is seventeenth in the league, at 5.52.
So basically, Roy gets equivalent run support to Marquis, has an ERA almost two points better, has an extra start as it happens, and still finds himself behind Marquis in wins.
Now, wins are another one of those stats derided by the sabermetric plutocracy as next to meaningless, and if one of them were reading here, they'd simply say, "proves our point," but as someone who's watched Oswalt over the last five or six games, I'm not sure that this little statistical oddity doesn't illuminate as well as anything else the way that Roy has been out of sorts lately.
He's still hard to hit, always wil be, and his walks or homers aren't up, but it just seems that runners he'd usually leave stranded have been scoring lately.
I dunno, maybe it's a bad tme to bring it up, seeing how he's coming off the 7 innings of one-run ball, but the comparison with Marquis got me thinking . . . .
Marquis Carpenter and Suppan for the Astros vs. Oswalt Pettitte and Buchholz in this three-game, and as Garner or just about anyone else on the Astros would tell you, you're just looking to win two of three.
'Course that might be a bit much to ask here, but I will say that getting swept would be devastating. Houston'd be 9-1/2 back if that little bit of tragedy played itself out, and teams have come back from larger deficits, but usually the teams that found themselves caught weren't the best in the league in pitching, as the Cardinals are.
So you gotta win at least one, and seeing how Carpenter goes tomorrow and Buchholz Wednesday, this I think is the must-win.
I swear I didn't predetermine the data in an effort to make the 'Stros look good, or to make another argument as to how much the Cardionals rely on Pujols offensively.
It just worked out this way:
| Avg w/ RISP |
Astro | Pos | Cardinal | Avg w/ RISP |
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| x | .324 | Brad Ausmus | C1 | Yadier Molina | .281 | |||
| x | .385 | Eric Munson | C2 | Gary Bennett | .250 | |||
| .368 | Lance Berkman | 1B | Albert Pujols | .537* | x | |||
| x | .257 | Craig Biggio | 2B | Aaron Miles | .238 | |||
| .197 | Adam Everett |
SS | The Hyperactive Little Freak |
.244 | x | |||
| .244 | Morgan Ensberg | 3B | Scott Rolen | .245 | ||||
| x | .364 | Chris Burke | OF1 | SoTaguchi | .273 | |||
| x | .343 | Willy Taveras | OF2 | Jim Edmonds | .271 | |||
| x | .275 | Preston Wilson | OF3 | Juan Encarnacion | .208 | |||
| .111 | Jason Lane | OF4 | John Rodriguez | .444 | x | |||
| x | .429 | Eric Bruntlett | Util/PH | Hector Luna | .391 | |||
| * This is not a misprint | ||||||||
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I call him "Damien" Eckstein.
Think
He's a good player, but he's certainly easy to ridicule
by rastronomicals on May 29, 2006 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Lineups...
CF, Taveras
2B, Biggio
1B, Berkman
3B, Ensberg
RF, Wilson
LF, Burke
C, Ausmus
SS, Everett
P, Oswalt
Cards:
SS, Eckstein
LF, Rodriguez
1B, Pujols
3B, Rolen
RF, Encarnacion
CF, Taguchi
C, Bennett
2B, Miles
P, Marquis
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 3:04 PM CDT reply actions
Happy Memorial Day
I know that the three-day was certainly appreciated in these quarters.
by rastronomicals on May 29, 2006 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
thank you, btw...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I think I'm going to try to do some PBP...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 3:15 PM CDT reply actions
Funny
The girlfriend has asked if I could have some Sicilian Penne with Sausage ready for her when she gets back from work, so while I'll be able to keep up, I wasn't gonna be able to do PBP middle innings.
So if you could take it through six anyway, that'd be great.
by rastronomicals on May 29, 2006 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
This Picture
Thought it was funny, Lance looks like he's ready to bust out an aria from "Don Giovanni" or something . . .

Top of the 1st...
He flies out to Rodriguez for the first out.
Bidge up.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 3:20 PM CDT reply actions
Good Patience
by rastronomicals on May 29, 2006 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Lance Ks looking to end the inning...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Well...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Bottom of the 1st...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 3:26 PM CDT reply actions
OLS grounds out to Mo...
Rodriguez up.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
he gets on w/ an infieldish hit...
Pujols up.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
He pops out to Roy...
Lance tries to call him off but he doesn't here him. He makes the play, though.
Rolen up.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's Keep Score.
Albert Pujols 0
by rastronomicals on May 29, 2006 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Roy Ks the bastid looking...
Weee!
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow. Had No Clue.
ST. LOUIS -- The St. Louis Cardinals expect to place pitcher Chris Carpenter on the 15-day disabled list on Tuesday, and are preparing to call up right-hander Anthony Reyes from the minors to take his spot in the rotation.Chris Carpenter
Starting Pitcher
St. Louis CardinalsProfile
2006 SEASON STATISTICS
GM W L BB K ERA
10 4 2 19 53 2.63"We're expecting to pitch somebody else tomorrow, like Anthony," manager Tony La Russa said before Monday's game against the Astros. "I just know he's on call and expecting to pitch."
Carpenter was scratched from his last scheduled start due to inflammation under his right shoulder blade, an injury the team described as bursitis, and has not thrown a bullpen session since then. Reyes worked 5 2/3 scoreless innings at Kansas City earlier this month.
Well, now we should win two. . . .
Thanks for the heads up.
Top of the 2nd...
P-Dub up.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 3:40 PM CDT reply actions
ANOTHER
by rastronomicals on May 29, 2006 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
He pops out to Aaron Miles...
Did you guys see the cards are now claiming themselves as 2001 division champions?
Assholes.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
He flies out to Taguchi...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I dunno what he did...
Only to have Lil E K. Bastids. Sorry, gettin' distracted.
That stunk, lol!
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Hrabosky on Everett:
Not much you can say to that.
by rastronomicals on May 29, 2006 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Not the First Time They've Done That
by rastronomicals on May 29, 2006 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Bottom of the 2nd...
Why does my brain insist on putting an e on the end of Taguchi today?
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 3:49 PM CDT reply actions
C'mon BBGs, a DP would be...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Wish granted...
Miles up.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
He grounds out to Lil E to end the inning...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Looking Alive Defensively
by rastronomicals on May 29, 2006 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I know...
Bastids.
Did you guys hear where LaRussa was incredibly peeved that the 'Stros dare to call themselves 2001 division champs even though that's what they are.
Kruk said this, I think.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 3:53 PM CDT reply actions
Roy grounds out to OLS for the first out...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
and Bidge too...
Lance up.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
He pops out to Rolen...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I Know
by rastronomicals on May 29, 2006 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Mo walks the bases loaded...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
He gets on w/ a base-hit...
Burke up.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
he grounds out to Pujols to end the inning.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Bottom of the 3rd...
Eckstein on w/ a base-hit. Sorda. Yuck.
Rodriguez up. DP!
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:17 PM CDT reply actions
Does anyone else notice that...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
He grounds out to Rolen to get the first out...
They're discussing leaving 1st open starting the runner vs. not.
I'd say start the runner, personally. Particularly if there's 1 out. Too big of a risk of having to lead off w/ Albert. But that's just me.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Marquis
by rastronomicals on May 29, 2006 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
He looks like crap today...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
He grounds out to Miles to end the inning...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
He flies out deep to Willy T for the first out...
He flies out to P-Dub for the 2nd out.
Encarnacion up.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Scoreboard
Albert Pujols 0
Barely.
by rastronomicals on May 29, 2006 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
He's on w/ a 2-out double...
Taguchi up.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Taguchi HBP...
Bennett up. C'mon, Roy!
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Roy Ks him...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Bidge flies out to Taguchi...
Lance up.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Lance on w/ a base-hit...
I heart me some back-to-back milestones.
Mo up.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
He pops out to OLS to end the inning.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Inspite of an error...
Marquis up.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Marquis sacs him to 2nd...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
He gets on w/ a ball that drops in...
Rodriguez up.
DP! Runners on the corners w/ 1 out for him.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Rodriguez on w/ a bunt-hit...
Pujols up. C'mooooon Roy!
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Ks him swinging...
Weee!
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow.
Astros Pitchers 3
Albert Pujols 0
by rastronomicals on May 29, 2006 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
He flies out to Taguchi right before...
CatcherBradley up.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
He, too, flies out to Taguchi.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
He grounds out to Roy...
Encarnacion up.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
He grounds back to Roy...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Runners Stranded
by rastronomicals on May 29, 2006 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm...
I mean averagewise, btw.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:11 PM CDT reply actions
Top of the 7th...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:12 PM CDT reply actions
91 Pitches
by rastronomicals on May 29, 2006 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you trying to suggest...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Not Really
It might make me wonder whether after a first part of the season that has seen Roy among the major league leaders in innings pitched or "Pitcher Abuse Points" as Prospectus calls it, there might not be a doctrine to try and take it easy on Roy.
With OPP up to start the inning, you know there isn't that much difference between what would happen with Orlando hitting as what would happen with Roy
And shouldn't the sequence be Chad Dan Lidge, or has Dan been demoted?
Big confidence dropoff from Oswalt to Trever Miller.
by rastronomicals on May 29, 2006 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I have no clue...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
He popped out to Rolen...
Willy T up.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
He grounds out to Rolen...
Bidge up. C'mon, baby!
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Bidge grounds out to Miles...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Bottom of the 7th...
Miles leading off.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:16 PM CDT reply actions
He's on w/ a base-hit...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
He flies out to Willy T...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
TLR
by rastronomicals on May 29, 2006 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Rodriguez walks...
Pujols up. MFPOS. FUCK!
Qualls coming in to pitch, though.
My question is 'Why didn't he start the inning?'
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Is There Any Way
by rastronomicals on May 29, 2006 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Do I even need to say what just happened?
I blame Garner.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
He's on w/ a base-hit...
Okay Cards announcers are pissing me the hell off.
'True to form Albert Pujols gets another game-winning RBI...'
So does Encarnacion.
Runners at first and third for Taguchi.
I'm going to puke.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Who says they'll win the game
Right.
I just think that's obnoxious.
I'm not 'hoping', per se. I just know it's infinitely more possible this year than last.
Particularly w/ the middle of our order up.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I mean it's the *SEVENTH*
They're up by 2.
And they're up by 2 on a team that came back from a 4 run deficit YESTERDAY in the ninth inning!
That crap pisses me off.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Garner
When TLR didn't he figured he had the advantage lefty-lefty. No, the fault there was all Miller's.
Rodriguez is the guy he's paid to get. And he had him 0 - 2!
by rastronomicals on May 29, 2006 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks Trever
by rastronomicals on May 29, 2006 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Top of the 8th...
Mo up.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:41 PM CDT reply actions
Moe should have walked
P-Dub Ks looking.
Yeah, that didn't really look like a strike.
C'mon, boys!
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I know...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
WTF is up with Garner's game plan
Bottom of the 8th...
Bennett leading off.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:47 PM CDT reply actions
He, too, is on w/ a base-hit...
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Arrogant?
by BigCountry @ The Crawfish Boxes on May 29, 2006 5:51 PM CDT reply actions
Also
Screw the Crawford Boxes!
by BigCountry @ The Crawfish Boxes on May 29, 2006 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
How about you go back to your own...
Or do you want to act like you're better than us while proving you're not.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
BTW...
Crappy isn't one of them.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
The astros
by jakechap20 on May 29, 2006 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't call *YOU* arrogant...
And I was simply taking issue w/ his language on assuming the game was over w/ a 2-run lead w/ 2 innings to go.
It's not the same thing.
We never assumed the game was over. It was just excitement over the potential to go somewhere our team had never been before.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Top of the 9th...
Jason up.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 6:01 PM CDT reply actions
With a pitch that was so out of the strike zone
Well...
But I agree w/ the general principle.
I don't buy Burke as a better alternative, though.
He can be a good enough MI when Bidge retires (read: 2nd Baseman), but he's not an OFer, much less a corner OF, much less a RFer.
I can take him in CF or LF but I don't want to see him again at SS or RF.
But that's JMHO.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Phil Garner sucks
Weigh your options: 1) We likely sacrifice an out to have Roy pitch another inning, taking away an inning from a struggling bullpen, or 2)Pinch Hit OP(Should've been Lamb)who isn't going to go deep, and have your struggling bullpen pitch an extra inning.
Seemed like an easy decision to me, guess not.
by jakechap20 on May 29, 2006 6:03 PM CDT reply actions
My Guess
by rastronomicals on May 29, 2006 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
it was a weird decision...
No way in hell a vet pitcher who is pitching a shutout (if not being dominating) should come out of the game then otherwise.
But maybe they know something I don't.
Or Maybe Gar's just lost his mind.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Respect
by BigCountry @ The Crawfish Boxes on May 29, 2006 6:13 PM CDT reply actions
Crappity Crap Crap...
Ugh.
by StrosDux on May 29, 2006 8:38 PM CDT reply actions
yay
not so much....
by jakechap20 on May 29, 2006 9:22 PM CDT reply actions
So when's Clemens coming back?
Roy better not be out for awhile. sigh.
Rastro...
You Know
I'd like to stay with the Pujols toteboard as the series goes on, not to aggravate Cards fans, but because it should be an interesting gauge of how things are going. [Hint: I don't think much of the Cards' offense without Pujols, although I certainly respect the starting pitching]
As far as inflammatory, well, it's in the eyes of the beholder. Some schmuck who called himself a Giants fan started talking shit about people from Texas. I won't have that.
I won't have anyone good enough to come here having to read shit tossed at them coz of where they were born, their skin color, their religion, their sex, their politics, or where they choose to reside. That's just common sense.
But if a Cards fan notes that Houston is sinking in the divisional race, it's kind of like the truth hurts, no? And I'd hate for TCB to get a reputation as a place that can dish it out but can't take it.
I know, for example, I was on board with the Bonds bashers. And good for me: the Bonds bashers are right, whatever the hell Gary Gillette says.
Hopefully, the level of discourse here is such that rather than being drawn into the muck, we can raise the consciouness of the dissenter, if you know what I'm saying . . . .
by rastronomicals on May 30, 2006 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
your blog, your discretion
and about the starting pitcher tonight, anything less than Carpenter has got to be a good thing, but i always cringe when you hear "touted prospect making [first, second, whatever] major league start" against the Astros. seems like this crew likes to make young pitchers look like future superstars.
by littlevisigoth on May 30, 2006 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Reyes
But better the evil you haven't seen than the one you have?
by rastronomicals on May 30, 2006 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Bottom corner of ESPNews says
by jakechap20 on May 30, 2006 5:01 PM CDT reply actions
both sides denying it right now
by littlevisigoth on May 30, 2006 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I saw that report on ESPN.com
Either way its going to happen eventually..
by jakechap20 on May 30, 2006 5:05 PM CDT reply actions
just listened to Charlie Palillo's interview
maybe it's all a smokescreen because it's getting pounded out and nobody wants to show their hand in the media, but equally as speculative is that there's a bogus scoop coming out of NY trying to sabotage negotiations with the Astros. not trying to instigate conspiracy theories, but i'm confused as to where this story originated.
by littlevisigoth on May 30, 2006 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I posted this in the sidebar
"inflammatory, in a good sort of way"
I will give you the benefit of the doubt in your posts here, but think that inflammatory by its definition connotes something derogatory, negative.
And even if the Astros take the next two by a combined 20 - 0, I'm still not likely to go over to viva el birdos and crow. To what purpose? I've got business here, and you'd certainly need no reminders from me about the final scores.

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