Astros Sign Livan Hernandez To A Minor League Deal
Ken Rosenthal has reported that the Astros have signed Livan Hernandez to a minor league contract.
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http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/01/astros-sign-livan-hernandez.html
MlbTradeRumors says that he did not obtain any guaranteed money from the Astros, and this move is rotation depth.
by conroestro on Jan 31, 2012 4:35 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Should be some heavy competition for that 5th spot. This and the Duke signing make me think a trade of Wandy and/or Myers is imminent.
I agree, but it seems like we’ve been saying that forever now.
by conroestro on Jan 31, 2012 4:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not that a trade is eminent
But that if we were to trade one of them, we would be prepared to fill that spot in the rotation.
Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is probably the reason why so few engage in it. - Henry Ford
Definitely
Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is probably the reason why so few engage in it. - Henry Ford
ERR???
Why?
Lyles probably back in the minors, probably anticipating some trades at the deadline for Myers and/or Wandy. Looks like signing for depth. One of these guys will probably be the Brian Moehler swingman type.
True. No big deal. Depth is good.
by conroestro on Jan 31, 2012 5:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
I've been fearing this signing for about 5 years now.
I don’t mind it at all. I just wanna see a 55 mph throw(?).
I LOVE THE ASTROS. Now lets win something!
by ccislanders on Jan 31, 2012 5:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions
That's the spirit!
Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is probably the reason why so few engage in it. - Henry Ford
I like
How there is a bargain basement veteran ready to step in at just about every position if the young guys falter. It’s not unlikely that Altuve, Paredes, Wallace, Martinez, Lyles, Sosa, and the pitcher we got from the red sox need to spend more time in the minors. If Schafer can’t handle it we have JB. The only guy I want to have a really long leash is Bogusevic because this is pretty much his one shot to establish himself and he does have some skills but the odds are against him at this point. I would still like to pick up another option either at third base or second base so if both Altuve and Paredes need more time in the minors we can cover both of their positions. That’s why I’d like to pick up that second baseman the As designated for asignment if he is still available
by ntn on Jan 31, 2012 5:48 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Sizemore?
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by ccislanders on Jan 31, 2012 6:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No. Adrian Cardenas.
It took me forever to find his name bc my phone gets crappy reception in the bar in which I watch the bruins game.
by ntn on Jan 31, 2012 7:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He’s not a bargain basement veteran but he’s a bargain basement young guy who has hit in the minors.
by ntn on Jan 31, 2012 7:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Got it.
I remember a conversation here about possibly picking him up. I’d take a shot at him.
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by ccislanders on Jan 31, 2012 9:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
One thing is likely.
The fans in OKC are in for a show in the first half of the season. After the desolate AAA roster we fielded for much of last season it must be a welcome change for the fans up there.
Solid grab
Livan is a workhorse and a great stopgap option/AAA depth guy in case one of the current guys falters. Another little tip of the cap to Mr. Luhnow.
Livan Hernandez is a good replacement for Brett Myers if Myers is traded. Like Myers, Hernandez’s value is pitching deep into games…innings eater. Between Duke and Hernandez, Astros are cornering the market on successful low velocity starters.
huge oppurtunity gone.
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by ccislanders on Jan 31, 2012 9:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I probably would have driven down to see him pitch a game or two. Its not often that you get to watch a player (almost) older than the owner
by maroonedTexan on Jan 31, 2012 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
Fox interview with Livan and Luhnow....
Mildly interesting quotes.
Luhnow likes Livan’s innings eating ability. He thinks that Livan can still pitch in the majors.
Livan thanks the Astros for having some faith in his ability; says he can help tutor the young pitchers; he is very proud of never being on the DL (and that is quite an accomplishment at his age) and says that he can be there every fifth day.
I like the idea of him teaching the other pitchers
If he can teach our guys to do more with less I think our staff will be better for it.
I’m surprised Hernandez couldn’t land a minor league deal somewhere. He would make a nice #5 starter on a lot of teams, and is a lock to give 200+ innings.
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by Stupendous Man on Jan 31, 2012 10:37 PM CST via mobile reply actions
*major league deal
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Jan 31, 2012 10:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
At least
They didnt throw away a lot of money on Yoenis Cespedes. He seems like an imposter ‘young player.’
by ntn on Jan 31, 2012 11:06 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Baseball America recently said
That Cespedes would be the number one prospect in most teams in the league and a surefire top 20 guy. I am a bit skeptical about that personally but it does show that scouts think of him very highly.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
My issue is he is already 26
and Cuban baseball is akin to something between high A and AA… I would say he is waaayyyyy old for his level.
I believe whoever signs him will expect him to play in the majors sometime this year
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
I think the Astros would be much better suited
to throw their cash at Jorge Soler.
Luhnow satisfied with depth on 40 man roster...
That’s according to Levine’s article this morning. Levine points out that there are players with major league experience behind every presumed starter. Luhnow said that he will continue to be opportunistic if good deals arise. Speaking of the depth behind Lowrie at shortstop, Luhnow said that the Astros hope to sign Angel Sanchez to a minor league deal so that he can compete with MarGo for the back up position.
Angel Sanchez will come to spring training as a non roster invitee
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/02/angel-sanchez-clears-waivers.html
Looks like Luhnow has his veteran in place at short as insurance as well.
by conroestro on Feb 1, 2012 2:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Here is a really good article over at BP with a lot of Livan details
Livan is good at what he does, and what he does will help the Astros a bit.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=12965
And for what it's worth
The guy who wrote this article was hired by the Astros 2 weeks ago as a data analyst slash expert.
I’m glad you posted that. Yesterday I got to thinking that I vaguely recalled Mike Fast with some articles that looked at pitch f/x for Livan Hernandez. But I couldn’t immediately locate them. Fast has an interest in using pitch f/x to get beyond DIPS theory (e.g., pitchers who are prone to weak contact). Livan has always been one of those interesting inquiries for pitching analysts because of his success working with low velocity (which is unusual for a RHP).
Livan should be a contrast with Figueroa from last year. Figueroa, for some reason, was one of the worst pitchers in baseball at getting strike calls. Livan is one of the best.
I wonder if his World Series MVP has something to do with it.
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by Timothy De Block on Feb 2, 2012 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
Livo
I hope, for the fans sake anyway, that Livan is able to land a spot in the Astros starting rotation.
He’ll have a few games when he’ll get killed, but for the most part he keep the team in the game until the 7th and every once in awhile he’ll through a real gem.
But win or lose you will love watching him work.
(And as an added bonus he can hit and bunt!)
Livo
I hope, for the fans sake anyway, that Livan is able to land a spot in the Astros starting rotation.
He’ll have a few games when he’ll get killed, but for the most part he keep the team in the game until the 7th and every once in awhile he’ll through a real gem.
But win or lose you will love watching him work.
(And as an added bonus he can hit and bunt!)
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