Astros Lose In Extras 4-3
I actually was attending a funeral today during the Astros and Cubs game so we're going to do the recap a little different. I will be using comments from the game thread and tweets from twitter to give a recap, I'll also have my thoughts on the final play of the game after the jump:
Zachary Levine via Twitter:
Martin Sheen threw out the first pitch before Cubs-Astros today at Wrigley.
mike_o via the Game Thread:
Wow, I'm not even getting the game on WGN.
They’re showing Walker, Texas Ranger. And freaking FSSW has something about U of H.
Greg Lucas via Twitter:
Carlos Lee's 22nd career HR at Wrigley Field (and 17th this year) give Astros 1-0 lead in top 2nd.
mike_o via the Game Thread:
Soto HR.
/SIGH
AstroB via the Game Thread:
you can gauge the excitement of the game
when Brownie and JD are discussing the possibility that the flags in the CF poles are on the wrong poles.
AstroB via the Game Thread:
Ouch. Misplayed by Boggy single
and Ramirez ends up at third base.
Greg Lucas via the Twitter:
One out triple by Ramirez followed by RBI 1b by Baker and Cubs take their first lead 2-1 in bot 6
Cubs add another on RBI 1b by Soriano... now 3-1 with Wandy relieved by Wilton Lopez. Two out Two on bot 6
Alyson Footer via Twitter:
Martin Sheen will be singing "Take Me Out" during the 7th inning stretch today. Sweet!
Greg Lucas via Twitter:
After Seven: No change... Cubs 3, Astros 1
Zachary Levine via Twitter:
Jose Altuve just had his 200th career plate appearance last inning. He has 4 walks.
Greg Lucas via Twitter:
Astros get single by Corporan, but nothing more in top 8. Wallace rolls out 4-3 to extend hitless run to 0-26. Still 3-1 Cubs bot 8
mike_o via Game Thread:
Didn't even notice Harrell pitched an inning.
1-2-3 eighth, w/no strikeouts.
Joe in Birmingham via Game Thread:
Ninth inning starts with a Schafer single
AstroBrit via Twitter:
Faints dead away. Boy does Carlos love Wrigley. RT
@GREGCLUCAS: Carlos Lee RIPS A TWO RUN HR... GAME TIED... 3-3!!!!
Zachary Levine via Twitter:
This was the first multi-homer game by an Astro this year, question mark, exclamation point
Nice easy low-leverage spot here for Xavier Cedeno's Astros and MLB debuts.
Brad Mills getting booed considerably here in Chicago for his third pitching change of the inning.
Alyson Footer via Twitter:
Not sure how long the game will last but here's what Corporan is wearing home
#RookieRoadTrip http://twitpic.com/6lvdtz
Joe in Birmingham via Game Thread:
I think he was second batter
but quick two outs (Barmes and Corporan)
Matt Downs batting in the ninth slot
and he struck out to end the Astros tenth
And Greg Lucas to close us out via Twitter:
In Bot 12... Castro led off w/walk. Barney sac...int walk to Ramirez and Carpenter now faces Reed Johnson.
Wild pitch moves runners to 2nd and 3rd w/one out. Would Cubs try a squeeze???
Mills runs out (to boos) to confer. Astros might load 'em. That would make squeeze less likely..but no walk coming.
Carpenter throws pitch out in case of squeeze, but count goes to 3-0 so Johnsn walked. Bags jammed one out...winner at third. Byrd up
Cubs win on slow roller to third. Ruled fair, but may not have really been. Replays show Johnson touched it after ball was FOUL?? CLOSE!!
The first highlight I saw of the game was the final play in which Chris Johnson charged down the line on a ball bouncing near the foul line. Yes it looks like the umpires got the call wrong, but there was one out in the inning and no way of turning two, if Johnson was planning on going home it was going to be a tough play there as well. The ball should of been left alone, but I don't blame Johnson I blame Brad Mills for having him in that situation.
This kids is what we call over managing.
First he took out Jose Altuve by pinch hitting J.B. Shuck who after grounding out was then replaced defensively by Angel Sanchez. He then used four relievers in the bottom of the ninth going lefty, righty, lefty, righty while also taking out Jimmy Paredes in the ninth inning and replacing him with Matt Downs. In the top of the twelfth inning Jason Bourgeois would pinch run for Carlos Lee who had reached via a singled. in came the pinch hitting Johnson who would pop out for Fernando Rodriguez, the last reliever to enter the ninth inning.
With Lee and Brett Wallace (pinch hit eight inning) out of the game already that meant moving Downs from third base to first base. But wait you say, Bourgeois was in the game why not move Brian Bogusevic from right field to first base and keep Matt Downs at third. I don't know #MillsLogic
David Carpenter would load the bases setting up Johnson's blunder. substituting Paredes, Altuve and Lee for Johnson, Sanchez and Downs is just asking for trouble. With the exception of Downs your weakening your offense and defense.
You're not going to win games that way but you are certainly going to lose a 100 that way.
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BA has us picking RHP Mark Appel at #1 next year.
They have a top 50 list and a mock top 10 up as well. Can’t see it though, b/c I don’t pay their ridiculous prices.
Can someone post it, or atleast tell us where the Williams duo goes?
Personally, Im not a HUGE fan of Appel. Id rather have uber upside Williams, then go w/ low floor Appel.
by YohannDookeyblue on Sep 16, 2011 9:35 PM CDT reply actions
I am on the Appel bandwagon. By all accounts, he currently has a plus fastball and slider with good command that can eventually be plus-plus pitches, a circle change that can eventually be a plus pitch, good mechanics, a projectable frame, and he grew up an Astros fan, which doesn’t mean anything, but makes a nice story. I say sign him up. You can’t go wrong with either Appel or Nick Williams in my mind. My worst fear is that we flub that pick by taking someone like Diekroger or Marrero.
Currently loving: Jordan Schafer, Trayvon Robinson, Mark Appel, Nick Williams, and the Green Chile Double at Whataburger
Appel has a good chance to be a no. 1-2 type guy
I wouldn’t hate the pick, but I’m not confident yet that he’s the BPA. I hesitate to really say “I like this guy” or “I like that guy” too strongly at this stage, a lot can change over the course of a season.
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Im not hessitant to say I like this guy
I’m just hessitant to say this is OUR guy. Its like taking a poor kid to a nice toy store and saying ok choose, but you can only have one…“But there’s sooo many!”
by Its Gonna Happen on Sep 17, 2011 12:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm hesitant to go with pitching with the #1 pick
saying that David Price helped the Rays out very quickly. We could do with that sort of quick progression through the minors.
Im eager to see
How the front runners hold up next year. Between top pitchers Appel and McCullers and top hitters (Both) Williams, Roache…ect. there is a plethora of top talent available. Saying this draft is week is understandable but most people misinterpret that as the top talent isn’t as good, I think that’s wrong. The first rounds top 5 should have similar talent to what we’re used to, but the following rounds aren’t expected to have near the talent that 2011 had.
I’m so excited! Only thing is, we CAN NOT AFFORD to a) miss on our top five picks, and b) fail to sign our top 5 picks.
by Its Gonna Happen on Sep 17, 2011 12:27 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Johnson's walk off play....
I watched the replay a number of times now. The more I watch CJ’s play on the ball down the line, the less reason I see to criticize him. First, slow motion can be misleading in telling us about the defender’s options, because the decision making had to be bang-bang. Second, just sitting back and watching the ball go foul was not a valid option. It only looks like the right choice in hindsight. But it wasn’t a realistic choice in a walk off situation. CJ has to charge the ball, and he has to be in position to throw the ball if it is fair, no matter how difficult it would be to get the out at home. The game is over if the runner scores, and the defender has to try to throw him out if the ball is fair. Third, CJ approached the ball while standing in foul territory, which is the right thing to do. The third baseman stands in foul ground so that a foul ball will be called foul if it accidently touches him. Watching the replay, I think CJ thought the ball was foul before he touched it, and he was trying to knock it away from the line so that it wouldn’t bounce back into fair territory, much the way that a fielder will knock a ball further foul after it has rolled just foul.
As for Timmy’s point, I doubt that Paredes does anything better on that play. And I don’t have any reason to assume that he would have played it better, since he has a lot less experience at third base.
by clack on Sep 17, 2011 9:47 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I’m not saying he sits there and let’s the play just happen, but after the first bounce you can tell that ball is heading for foul territory at that point the objective of CJ should be to get out of the way of that ball, glove up in there.
I also think Paredes speed would of given him an advantage over Johnson in making that play. I also think he provides more offensive value than CJ does, so having Johnson in instead of Paredes is putting the team at a disadvantage into the late innings. If CJ was really going to provide more value than Paredes in the late innings then why isn’t he starting the game instead of Paredes.
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by Timothy De Block on Sep 17, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Paredes is starting because he has an unsustainably high BABIP, just like Johnson last year.
by clack on Sep 17, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was a very close play
Slow motion really doesn’t help much either because of the angles in which they filmed it. You can’t tell where the ball hits the ground and where it is when Johnson touches it. I won’t say it was a bad play by CJ, just that regardless of where it rolled it should have been grabbed and thrown home instead of bobbled, fair or foul.
by Its Gonna Happen on Sep 17, 2011 4:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He wasn’t trying to catch it, just make contact with it to ensure that it remains foul, according to CJ’s quote in the newspaper. CJ said that he was looking right down at the ball when it fell foul, and I presume that is why he just tried to make contact with it in foul territory. That’s what I came away with from watching the video—-it wasn’t a bobble because he had no intent on catching and throwing. I saw a quote from Mills, who said he had to look at video from different angles to confirm that it was foul, because it was inconclusive from some angles. (It would have been nice if mlb.com had shown multiple angles.) I think Mills has a good point that the plate umpire should have helped with the call because he had the best view. It’s seems chickens_t that the home plate umpire scurried off the field in order to avoid Mills.
by clack on Sep 18, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I understand why he didnt grab it
But I disagree with that decision. I stick with what I said, regardless fair or foul that ball should have been grabbed and thrown home. Just like in a fight, try to take the decision out of the refs hands as often as possible.
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