Astros Minor League Recap
by Subber10 on Aug 28, 2011 9:00 AM CDT
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Brooks is in a rush today so I thought I would jot down a few quick lines for you on his behalf (AstroB).
The big story last night, and of this weekend, is Hurricane Irene sweeping into the East Coast, so Tri-City's game was postponed, and there will be no game today, so they will play a double header on Monday. It was quite a scramble to get all the baseball in as it was. George Springer went 0-3 in his debut, so hopefully he can notch his first hit on Monday.
Adrian Houser threw possibly his best outing of the season last night, throwing five scoreless. Jordan Scott continues a strong season despite an all-star snub that had some people very worked up earlier this week. Lucas Harrell lowered his AAA ERA in the Astros organisation to 1.72, Brett Wallace cannot buy a home run, Jonathan Singleton continues to strikeout twice in every game he plays and Folty had a rough outing.
This is a question I wanted to ask, but haven't had a chance to ask it, and here seems a good a place as any. If J.D. Martinez, Jose Altuve and Jordan Lyles had not been called up, and continued the pace set in early 2011, hypothetically where would they be in your prospect top 10? Thoughts?
Minor league lines to follow on Friday and Saturday's games.
Friday Games
Oklahoma City won 10-2
- Xavier Cedeno-5 IP, 10 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 0 BB, 4 SO, 1 HR, 7/4 GO/AO
- Jose Valdez-1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 SO
- Luis Durango CF-2-5, SO
- Brett Wallace 1B-3-5, 2 SO
- Chris Johnson 3B-1-4, HR, SO
- JR Towles C-2-3
- Ozzie Navarro 2B-2-4, SO
- Drew Locke RF-0-0, 2 BB
Corpus Christi lost 2-1
- Ross Seaton-4 1/3 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 4 BB, 5 SO, 3/2 GO/AO
- Jon Gaston RF-1-3, HR, 2 SO
Corpus Christi lost 3-2
- Josh Zeid-2 IP, 1 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 SO, 3/1 GO/Ao
- Jonnathan Aristil-1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 SO
- Kody Hinze 1B-2-3, HR
Lancaster won 9-3
- Andrew Robinson-5 1/3 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 5 SO, 7/2 GO/AO
- Kyle Greenwalt-2 2/3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 SO, 4/0 GO/AO
- Robert Doran-1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 SO
- Grant Hogue RF-2-6
- Jio Mier SS-3-5, 2B, BB, 2 SO, SB
- Austin Wates CF-1-5, 2 SB
- Jonathan Singleton DH-1-4, 2B, 2 SO
- Jonathan Meyer 3B-2-5
- Erik Castro 1B-3-5, 2B, SO
- Federico Hernandez C-3-5
Lexington lost 7-5
- Mike Foltynewicz-4 1/3 Ip, 7 H, 7 R, 5 ER, 2 BB, 4 SO, 5/3 GO/AO
- Brian Streilein-2 2/3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 SO, 5/1 GO/AO
- Brad Dydalewicz-1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 SO, 2/1 GO?AO
- Tyler Burnett 1B-1-3, 2 BB, SO
- Mike Kvasnicka 3B-2-4, 2B, HR
- Ben Heath C-1-3, HR, BB, SO
- Ben Orloff SS-2-3, 2B
- Emilio King CF-2-4, 2B, SB
Tri-City won 8-4
- Jamaine Cotton-5 Ip, 3 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 3 SO, 6/4 GO/AO
- Dayan Diaz-3 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 3 SO, 4/1 GO/AO
- Justin Gominsky CF-1-1, 2B, BB
- Drew Muren RF-1-5, 2B, 2 SO
- Raffy Valenzuela 1B-1-3, 2 BB, 2 SO
- Bubby Williams DH-2-4, 2B, SO, CS
- Chris Epps LF-1-3, 2B, BB
Greeneville lost 3-2
- Francis Ramirez-4 2/3 IP, 2 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 2 SO, 1 HR, 8/3 GO/AO
- Mattison Smith-1 2/3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 SO
- Steve Martin-1 1/3 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 SO
- Jordan Scott LF-1-3, 2B, BB
- Ariel Ovando RF-1-4, 2B, SO
- Jesse Wierzbicki 1B-1-4, 2B, SO
- Darwin Rivera 3B-2-4, 2B
GCL Astros won 1-0
- Michael Feliz-5 Ip, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 SO, 8/0 GO/AO
- Frederick Tiburcio-3 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 SO, 3/3 GO/AO
- Alfredo Gonzalez C-1-3, 2B, SO
- Jose Fernandez SS-2-4, 2B, SO, SB
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Luca Martone 2B-2-3, 2B
Saturday Games
Oklahoma City won 2-1
- Lucas Harrell-8 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 6 BB, 7 SO, 13/3 GO/AO-123 Pitches
- Jeff Fulchino-1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 SO
- Drew Locke RF-2-3, HR
- Ozzie Navarro 2B-2-3, SO
Corpus Christi lost 6-0
- Paul Clemens-5 IP, 4 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 1 BB, 4 SO, 2 HR, 6/5 GO/AO
- Danny Meszaros-1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 SO
- Brandon Wikoff 2B-0-4, 3 SO
Lancaster lost 1-0
- Jake Buchanan- 6 2/3 IP, 7 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 5 SO, 13/2 GO/AO - good number of groundouts.
- Pat Urchfitz- 1 1/3 IP, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 SO, 1/2 GO/AO
- Jio Mier SS- 1-4, 2B
- Jonathan Singleton 1B- 2-4, 2 SO
Lexington won 11-3
- Luis Cruz- 5 IP, 8 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 3 BB, 6 SO, 2/2 GO/AO
- Ruben Alaniz-1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 SO
- Juan Minaya-3 Ip, 1 H, 0 R, 3 BB, 2 SO, 4/0 GO/AO
- DeLino DeShields 2B-2-5, BB, SO
- Domingo Santana RF-2-4, 2B, 2 SO, OF Assist
- Telvin Nash 1B-2-5, HR, 2 SO
- Mike Kvasnicka 3B-2-5, 2 2B
- Ben Heath DH-2-5, 2B, 2 SO
- Roberto Pena C-4-5, 2 2B
- Emilio King CF-3-4, 2B, HR, OF Assist
Tri-City: PPD because or Irene
Greeneville lost 4-3 (no earned runs)
- Adrian Houser- 5 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 5 SO, 2/7 GO/AO
- Josh Magee 2B-2-5, SO, 2 SB, CS
- Chan Moon SS-0-4, 3 SO
- Ariel Ovando RF-1-4, 2 SO
- Jesse Wierzbicki DH-2-4, 2B, SO
- Ronald Sanchez 1B-0-2, 2 BB, SO
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Ha ha, you had to mention Chan Moon, 0-4 with 3 K
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
If they hadn’t been called up, I would think that our top 10 prospects would look like this post trades:
1. Jonathan Singleton
2. Jordan Lyles
3. Jarred Cosart
4. George Springer
5. Jose Altuve
6. J.D. Martinez
7. Delino Deshields
8. Paul Clemens
9. Brett Oberholtzer
10. Mike Foltynewicz
by Stupendous Man on Aug 28, 2011 10:53 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I didn’t forget about Ovando or Santana, but I would place them just outside the Top 10.
by Stupendous Man on Aug 28, 2011 10:55 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Would paredes be outside top 10 as well?
by Woodlands'stro on Aug 28, 2011 11:38 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I would have Paredes at #13. He made our top 10 last year, but that was really more indicative of the weakness of our farm system than it was his talent.
Paredes certainly has a good combination of power and speed for an infielder, but I’m somewhat skeptical of his current major league performance.
by Stupendous Man on Aug 28, 2011 12:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That looks about right
And it’s a pretty damn nice top ten. Six top 100 prospects. There’s also Jason Castro—was his service time clock ticking this year while he was on the DL? Not sure how that works.
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Paul Clemens
Hit his first bump in the road with the Hooks last night. He was cruising through the game for the first 3 innings, but really struggled in the fourth. At least now we will get to see how he rebounds from the rough outing.
by conroestro on Aug 28, 2011 11:54 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
My list...
1. Jonathan Singleton
2. Jarred Cosart
3. Jordan Lyles
4. George Springer
5. Jose Altuve
6. Paul Clemens
7. JD Martinez
8. Jonathon Villar
9. Domingo Santana
10. Adrian Houser
by lawson3 on Aug 28, 2011 12:20 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
It might be a little too early for houser
But I like him a lot too I just think we will have a better gauge on him after next year
by wdh001 on Aug 28, 2011 12:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah. I'm always higher on pitching. Hence Clemens at 6.
So it was between houser and folty at 10 for me. And gotta be optimistic about the new draftees.
by lawson3 on Aug 28, 2011 1:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i think he deff has better stuff than folty and has preformed better so far folty had a 5 era in greenville last year too
and hasnt done much this year either
Firesale! Everyone must go!
by astrosfan1989 on Aug 29, 2011 2:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Steve Martin
Seems like a sleeper to me he was in the mid 90s in the college world series but he was wild. I would like to see him in a rotation next year to get more innings to see if he could work on his control issues. Emilio King has been on fire lately. It seems like all the hitters at Lexington are all or nothing a lot of hits but a lot of ks as well.
by wdh001 on Aug 28, 2011 12:23 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
hes in the report up top
I haven’t checked his numbers but he has good movement on his fastball from what I saw in the world series he was a long reliever though so he’s definitely a dark horse
by wdh001 on Aug 28, 2011 3:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Here it goes
1. Springer
2. Lyles
3. Cosart
4. Singleton
5. Altuve
6. Martinez
7. Villar
8. DeShields
9. Foltynewicz
10. Santana/Ovando/Houser/Clemens (pick one)
by pacbellpilgrim on Aug 28, 2011 12:44 PM CDT reply actions
What are the reports on Michael Feliz looking like?
by lawson3 on Aug 28, 2011 1:13 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Lyles
Does not make sense to have him in the top 3 under these rules. Don’t see him as more than a #3 starter (maybe Shane Reynolds with less K upside? seriously, check out Shane’s low BB rate and then look at his frame).
I’d say:
1) Singleton
2) Cosart
3) Martinez – dude learned how to hit for power at the higher levels this year; and he’s shown good mobility and a canon in left; Instead of a ceiling as a line-drive hitting corner outfielder, maybe a 4th outfielder on a good team; I think his ceiling is more in the 30hr range
4) Altuve – yeah, his BB is terrible and he’s getting exposed, but clearly a + glove, and there’s no doubt he’ll stick in the majors. And he’s 21. He showed too much power in A+ and AA to think that he won’t start driving the ball in 2012 or 2013.
5) Springer
6) Lyles
7) Villar – love the increase in BB rate as he moves up. Still only 20 and in AA
8) Paredes
9) Santana
10) Folty
by Exiled in St. Louis on Aug 28, 2011 2:18 PM CDT reply actions
Baseball America ranked Jordan Lyles the #42 prospect in the minors coming into this season. The only prospect currently in our system who ranked higher was Singleton. That is justification why he should be ranked highly.
by Stupendous Man on Aug 28, 2011 2:22 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
You’re might be right that his high ranking was based more on his youth than his ultimate ceiling, but he was ranked highly nonetheless, which I took into account in my list. Cosart absolutely has a higher ceiling than Lyles, but coming into this season he wasn’t a top 50 prospect due to injury concerns.
by Stupendous Man on Aug 28, 2011 4:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
*You might be right, not you’re. I hate my phone.
by Stupendous Man on Aug 28, 2011 4:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Wates is going to make these top 10 lists that don’t include his name look silly next year in cc. I think he’ll be in cf at mmp by the end of next season.
by Brad E on Aug 28, 2011 2:25 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
if this wasnt a "what if" list
And I took out JD and Altuve off. Wates and Folty round out my top ten.
by lawson3 on Aug 28, 2011 2:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I like your list. I think Singleton is #1 too. I think I would slot the what if guys in the same places you have them.
by Brad E on Aug 28, 2011 2:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Singleton
His K rate at Lancaster has been puzzling, and just a bit of a concern. On another day he could be at the top my list – it is pretty close in those top few spots.
by pacbellpilgrim on Aug 28, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Wates
Certainly well-rounded offensively, and has some defensive potential. I guess we’ll need to see how his numbers look outside of Lancaster and the California League next year.
by pacbellpilgrim on Aug 28, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
velasquez
we’re now 11 months since his tommy john surgery. I guess after the full 12 months we’ll see if he starts a re-hab programme.
hed be on that list if it wasnt for the injury
i hope it hasnt hurt his future
if he and armstrong can be healthy and effective next year
then it is a MAJOR boost for the farm system
not to mention if hallock and tropeano
build on what theyve done
At this point? I will preface by saying Im a HUGE JD believer. As in I think he hits .300/30/100 next year.
1. Singleton
2. Cosart
3. JD
4. Springer
5. Lyles
6. Altuve
7. Villar
8. Folty
9. Santana (like what hes doing in our system so far)
10. Ovando
THAT is a top 10 system.
by YohannDookeyblue on Aug 28, 2011 2:58 PM CDT reply actions
If you think JD will go .300 with 30 HR, why not put him #1? Do you think Singleton has a higher ceiling than that?
by Brad E on Aug 28, 2011 3:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Singleton has Ryan Howard type of ceiling.
One scout said he had 80 power, and he could have 60 to 65 contact rate.
Cosart COULD be our next RoyO.
JD has average range in LF and defense plays a part, but I think his floor is lower than those 2 above as well.
by YohannDookeyblue on Aug 28, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m skeptical that Singleton has 80 power. He he’s yet to hit 20 home runs in either of his seasons in the minors, but its true that his power could still develop later as he’s just 19. I think 30 home runs is his best case scenario, but that’s a long shot.
Telvin Nash, on the other hand, has 14 homers in only 65 games Lexington (after a broken wrist, no less). If anybody has a chance at 80 power in our system, its him.
by Stupendous Man on Aug 28, 2011 4:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Fun fact on Singleton via Astros County
Out of the ordinary: In 11 home games for Lancaster, Jonathan Singleton has a .682 OPS. In 15 road games, he has a 1.161 OPS.
Well known, respected Scout based it on body type and mechanics, loft of his swing.
Power is one of the last things to come around. Im not worried about his power, Im a little worried about his high K rate and hope we are not jacking with his swing too much.
But overall his ceiling is the highest in our system and one of the highest in all of the minors. That’s why he’s on top 50 and top 25 lists. Like to see the K rate go down though..
by YohannDookeyblue on Aug 28, 2011 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m certainly not trying to tear down Singleton, because I like him a lot as a prospect. I just think we should temper our expectations. Most of Singleton’s prospect hype came from a torrid first half of the season in Low A last year. His stock has actually fallen slightly since then, as he hasn’t flashed as much power since. The potential is still there, though, and he should still be in the Top 50.
by Stupendous Man on Aug 28, 2011 5:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
an .850 ops as a 19 year old in High A
Expectations are still very high.
by YohannDookeyblue on Aug 28, 2011 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
JD
I could see .300/15/80 being a more likely outcome – and that would be considered a success, in my book
by pacbellpilgrim on Aug 28, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
He has 5 hr's and 25 rbi's in less than a month.
I know the league will make adjustments but he has proven he will too.
He has just now found loft and power to his swing and he has an excellent eye at the plate. A few of his K’s should not have been K’s and were bad umping.
I fully believe hes capable of .300/450/.550 and next year he’ll get close to 30 hr’s.
by YohannDookeyblue on Aug 28, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
1 cosart
2 singleton
3 springer
4 villar
5 folty
6 clemens
7 ovando (up side)
8 santana
9. ddj
10 brett O
They might want him to work on hitting for more power bc they might not see him as a cf but I don’t know I’ve never seen him play but he deserves a promotion
by wdh001 on Aug 28, 2011 3:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
anyone heard much on the ss we signed in the internationals this year
there hasnt been much written about them
future lineup 2014
2nd. ddj/ atulve
ss. villar
cf springer
1b singleton/. nash/ davidson
rf ovando
lf santana/ nash/ davidson
3rd peredes/ or future draft pick
c. c wallace/ castro
rotation
cosart
folty
lyles
norris/ clemens
4
JD with another RBI.
Bud… lets say hes looking good. Nobody jinx it!
by YohannDookeyblue on Aug 28, 2011 3:57 PM CDT reply actions
Well
If Mills didnt have Angel Suckchez playing out there it would still be a nono
by YohannDookeyblue on Aug 28, 2011 4:00 PM CDT reply actions
Im curious on how
Cedeno gave up 4ER and we won 10-2? Interesting…
Harrell has to be called up soon. He has been an absolute steal so far in the minors, let’s see how he looks in the Majors!
by Its Gonna Happen on Aug 28, 2011 6:58 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Top 10 based on a mix of what they've shown and how they project
1.) Cosart
2.) Lyles
3.) Springer
4.) Singleton
5.) Martinez
6.) Altuve
7.) Clemens
8.) Houser
9.) Santana
10.) Paredes
by Its Gonna Happen on Aug 28, 2011 7:07 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
For the record
I don’t think Folty has improved enough to earn a spot over any of these guys, but he is still high on my list. Villar could be a phenom but he’s so raw right now he might just be a bust. Ovando is in his first season and has done well but not better than these guys. DDJ and Mier were reaches and will hopefully develope more down the road. I think Kvasnicka was our biggest most recent draft mistake.
by Its Gonna Happen on Aug 28, 2011 7:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Kvasnicka
I still hold out a glimmer of hope that he will develop some power all of a sudden.
But I agree that it was a big mistake to pick him so high.
by pacbellpilgrim on Aug 28, 2011 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
My rankings with ceiling and floor:
Name Pos Age Ceiling Floor
1 Jarred Cosart SP 21 Ace #4 SP
2 George Springer OF 21 HOF CF 4th OF
3 Jonathan Singleton 1B 19 All-Star Slugger AA
4 Jordan Lyles SP 20 #2 SP #4 SP
5 Jose Altuve 2B 21 All-Star 2B Everyday 2B
6 JD Martinez OF 24 .300; 25 HR 4th OF
7 Jonathan Villar SS 20 Hanley Ramirez Backup SS
8 Ariel Ovando OF 17 All-Star RF MiLB
9 Paul Clemens SP 23 #3 SP Setup Man
10 Jimmy Paredes 3B 22 .270; 20HR; 40 SB Backup IF
Honorable mention
Adrian Houser SP 18 #2 SP Middle Relief
Domingo Santana OF 19 All-Star RF AA
Mike Foltynewicz SP 19 Ace Setup Man
Brett Oberholtzer SP 22 #3 SP LOOGy
Delino DeShields Jr. 2B 18 All-Star 2B/CF 4th OF
Vincent Velasquez SP 19 #2 SP MiLB
Austin Wates OF 22 Everyday CF AAAA
by Snake Diggity on Aug 28, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Also note I would put that top 7 in the top 120; KC has the unanimous best system in baseball, and they had 9 of the top 100 last year.
by Snake Diggity on Aug 28, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Villar's floor is lower than a back up SS
That’s why he didn’t make my top 10.
by Its Gonna Happen on Aug 28, 2011 7:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
My top 10 list with Altuve, J.D., Paredes, and Lyles:
1. Jonathan Singleton 1B
2. Jordan Lyles SP
3. Jarred Cosart SP
4. George Springer OF
5. J.D. Martinez LF
6. Jose Altuve 2B
7. Domingo Santana RF
8. Paul Clemens SP
9. Delino DeShields Jr. 2B
10. Brett Oberholtzer SP
Paredes would be #11 if I stretched the list.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
until springer blows it in pro ball he has to be above singleton unless you are baseing it on preformance
singleton is good but is a 1b therefore as an overall player is limited. As a true five tool talent springer is at least one if not 2 steps ahead of him untill he falls on his face in minor league ball if that even happens. I think pitching is more important and Cosart is the #1 today
Maybe springer takes over that spot and maybe singelton does but right now i think thats the way it starts.
1 Cosart
2 Springer
3 Singleton
4 villar
5 santana
6 ovando
7 clemens
8 wates
9 DDJ
10 Houser
Firesale! Everyone must go!
For saying pitching is more important, you don’t have much pitching in there. I agree with you about Springer being higher because as an OFer he can have more impact defensively and similar impact offensively. Its like asking who’s more of an impact player, Josh Hamilton or Ryan Howard? Really if they’re both on your team…WHO CARES??
History will show you that strong pitching can get you to the WS, so I definately agree with Cosart at #1 too.
Still no word on Velasquez?
by Its Gonna Happen on Aug 29, 2011 2:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
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