Big Inning Dooms Wandy, Astros Lose 5-1
by Will Bonn on Aug 2, 2011 9:40 PM CDT
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PrintAmidst all of the constant trade rumors throughout last week, Wandy Rodriguez remained an Astro. I was very pleased with his start tonight... until the fifth inning. Wandy was dealing through the first four frames, but he quickly unraveled after that, and the Reds made him pay.
Edgar Renteria's grand slam proved to be the difference, and we couldn't get anything going against Homer Bailey. The local product from La Grange threw eight solid innings, and no one could record a multi-hit performance.
Luis Durango's first hit with the Astros was a RBI single in the fifth, and Jimmy Paredes also singled in his first at-bat tonight.
Carlos Lee's lack of hustle prevented a run in the eighth, but what else is new?
Unfortunately we could see a lot of games like this in the near future with our weak lineup, but there's always a silver lining. Right?
Jarred Cosart threw a gem in his debut with Corpus Christi tonight (6 scoreless innings, 2 hits, 4 strikeouts), and Jonathan Singleton is batting .500 through two games so far with Lancaster. Small samples aside, this immediate return looks promising.
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That was Durango’s first major league hit as an Astros. Durango previously played in the majors with the Padres.
by clack on Aug 2, 2011 9:42 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
j.d.
I think he will start to come around, in pregame show he said hes still trying to slow everything down. I think he’ll be very solid major leaguer for sure.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 9:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Hope we bat Jimmy 3rd tomorrow.
Better than batting Bogey there.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
i liked bourgeios theyre for now. jd extends lineup and when he comes around itll make the lineup a bit better with him batting 5th.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 10:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
whoops, any way jimmy i think should bat behind jd in 6th or 7th spot.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 10:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Stubby Clapp
Deadspin has a video of Stubby Clapp, the Astros’ manager at Tri City, going bonkers, completely raving mad, over an umpire’s call.
by clack on Aug 2, 2011 10:06 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
There are some great lines in this article
Clapp was burning last night after one of his players was denied first base on a maybe-HBP
Clapp carried on until he was red and raw
Wandy is unmannerly.
Tuck in your shirt! And I think if he didn’t have that glove on his right hand, he’d be flipping the bird at the umpire.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
lol, he seems real lazy, espacially when he k's someone and throw the ball around the hprn.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 10:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Wow
Brendan Ryan advances from 1st to 3rd because nobody is covering 2nd or 3rd.
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=17585257
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Austin Wates single. David Flores HR
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
singleton with 2 k's what were his k% in the florida state league.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 10:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
83K in 320 AB in Clearwater...They were also tinkering with stance there too early on
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
yah i read about the swing change. Do you think you can check his monthly k%, my phone wont let me on bball reference.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 11:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i dont even know where to start looking for that shit lol
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
i know of baseball reference and milb and fangraphs. but my phone wont succeed on those sights.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 11:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Going into tonight for the season it was 22%
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
wow yadier molina idms a pussy, never liked him, never respected him.
Now i know why. And i know why my mom hates him.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 11:04 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
wow yadier molina is a pussy, never liked him, never respected him.
Now i know why. And i know why my mom hates him.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 11:04 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
sry about language, gotta a little animated.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 11:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Are you referring to him going beserk tonight?
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
yah i was watching it live. the pitch was a great pitch. know need for his explosion and spitting everywhere.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 11:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Cards players are retards.. taking on TLR's ahole attitude... Pujols was not intentional HBP
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
by StrosSouth on Aug 2, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i have always been a diehard fan of astros, and i used to be a fan of cards except when we were playing them and when they were in first, when they won 04 NLCS i cried and called them the deadbirds.
That pitch was no way intentional it was 1st and 3rd with no outs. Plus saito would never do that, he takes to much pride in his game. Anyway la russa took motte out after he hit braun, he was pissed. Motte didnt want to hit braun, you could tell, he was shaking his head and stuff after he threw 2 balls at braun. I blame it all on molina.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 11:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
TLR shoulda told molina not to though to make sur it didnt happen. TLR been
around long enough to know its gonna happen
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
yah, but he seems like someone who'd let it happen anyway.(la russa)
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 11:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Lots of of former players have said hes a prick without actually saying it
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
like colby rasmus? and my grandpa.
He hates him, and hes always loved them. Lives 2hrs away
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 12:01 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
lol. no players that played for him in ChiSox coaching days
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
haha thats intrrsting
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 12:10 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
yall should check it out.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 11:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
To try to end the day off on a high-note, here's a nature picture.
Natural settings are less stressful than busy city life & industrial spaces. Relax, cue the music. Let your head rest on your soft pillow. Think about the day. What did you do that you liked. What are your goals for the future? Mentally pat yourself on the back. Pretend it was a good day even if it wasn’t. Then slowly drift away into sleep pondering things softly & smoothly, while cozy-ing up in your soft relaxing bed sheets.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
by BustaPozee on Aug 2, 2011 11:04 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
BustaPozee aka Stuart Smiley...and gosh darnit people like me...
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
What can I say.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
well at least eveyong knows what you look like now...lol
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
It also explains the damn cats..lol
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
Say these out loud:
Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt!
You’re should-ing all over yourself.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
jonathan singleton is getting exposed to the jethawks weekly pitching meltdown.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 11:10 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
and ELEVEN RUNS!!
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 11:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Ok, How do you guys rank our top 10 pitching prospects?
Here’s the order I like them in
1. Cosart
2. Houser
3. Folty
4. Oberholter
5. Clemens
6 .Buchanon
7. Keuchel
8. Sosa
9. Harrell
10. Hallock
This doesn’t include injured guys who haven’t pitched this year
i wouldnt consider harrell a prospect, he pitched for tge whitesox.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 11:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
fair enough. He has 29 IP in MLB..He’s still has “prospect” status..but I wouldn’t argue that he shouldn’t be on the list..I just ran out of ideas…Tropeano? Cisnero?
yah your right about harrell. i like cisnero.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 11:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
CC, if they let seaton go im pretty sure cisnero is under same route.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 11:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Cosart,Folty,Sosa,Obe,Clemens,Keuchel,Seaton,Houser.....
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
Im going more off age and polish then anything
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
yeah, I like Sosa pretty good too.
I think worst case scenario with him is he becomes a pretty nasty bullpen arm.
He very well could but SF tried that earlier this season and his #'s were horrible
thats why they moved back to being a SP. He may not have the mind set just yet to make that transition
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
Some guys have the makeup for the pen and some dont
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
Do you watch a lot of Hooks games?
How is Keuchel getting outs with a mid-80’s fastball? Do you think he can make it work against better hitters?
he closer to being in the range of Wandy's stuff. mid 80's stuff is funny.He's learning
to place his stuff well and keep hitters off balance.
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
he has a nasty curveball too and his change, plus he says he throws a 2 seam.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 11:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
oh so he has more of Wandy's velocity?
I thought I read somewhere that he was about 86 with the fastball and touching 88 occasionally. That makes me feel better if he sits at 88 and touches 91 or 92
Thats how he pitched in college which is really what he should be throwing, but i haven’t seen anything he’s up there.
Hes touched there a few times when Ive seen him. Makes me wonder if hes taking
a little off in order to gain better control
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
Very encouraging! The 85-87 reports had me worried. I know he has the low 90s in him but thats his top, I’m ok if he’s sitting 88-90 touching low 90s.
He doesnt do it often but when he needs to he can run it up there
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
We need to ask our resident OKC insider and have them keep an
eye on Keuchel up there to see what Hooten has doing after a couple of starts and to see where is velocity is after some time there too.
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
Stadium guns usually run 1-2mph hot
So if he’s sitting around 88mph and occasionally touching the low 90s according to the stadium gun that means he probably is around 86-87mph typically.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
and Im not sure whether CC gun is high or low.. i just started paying
attention this year when they started bringing in more talent
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
92-94mph coming into the draft
But I almost expect his velocity to have dropped a tick as a cold weather HS arm transitioning to pro ball. So I wouldn’t be surprised if the gun was hot and he was sitting closer to 91
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
well I know the Braves guys were all tossing 95 on that gun
so i figured it might be a tick or two high
his last start that I caught on MiLB the announcers
said that he started off hitting 95-96 and that in the 5th inning he was still hitting 95. so I dont know if their gun is fast or not but it sure sounds good
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
Thats still not bad if hes hitting 93-94 to start
and maintaining thru to the 5th
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
Not to keep harping on it, but from those that have watched him HOW high do y’all guesstimate that Keuchel can dial it up when he needs to?
Tops at 92’ish maybe?…I don’t know. I’ve only watch him in college.(He was NAILS). Thats why I’m asking.
I know that velocity isn’t everything or maybe even the most important thing, I’m just wondering how fast he can dial it up?
Thanks
hes a finess pitcher but that doesnt mean he going to fail
like so many on hear think greg maddux was a finess pitcher
Keuchel that is. I’m wondering how high on the radar gun do y’all guess that Keuchel can top out at?
Ive seen him run it up to 91/92 here in CC but as Subber
pointed out the gun here could be reading high
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
by StrosSouth on Aug 3, 2011 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
uve seen him what do u think of the lefty
his future
He has good location and control but struggles with both
at times. All his pitches could use some polishing at this stage which is normal. You can def see that he is not too far off from putting it together. HE has def gotten better as the season has gone on.
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
Thanks.
I watched Keuchel pitch in college and while I didn’t pay attention to the radar gun, he was NAILS as a pitcher. I was glad the Stros drafted him.
he pitched in the colledge world series when we drafted him
so theres got to be something there he exceeded expectations everywhere hes been
hes the furthest along of all our pitching prospects
he should get the next crack at the rotation when they shut lyles down or trade wandy
1. Cosart
2. Folty
3. Clemens
4. Houser
5. Oberhultzer
6. Keuchel
7. Cisnero
8. Sosa
9. Tropeano
10. Robinson
11. Buchanan
12. Dufek
13. Hallock
14. Lee
15. Bushue
Man I could keep going and that is off the top of my head. Much better than last year.
I like your list. Do you think Tropeano and Robinson have brighter futures than Buchanan and Hallock?
I think Trope does.
Love his game.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Aug 2, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Robinson has been working on his mechanics and has hit 94 a few times. That velocity and recently, he’s been performing pretty well at times. I think Buchanan is a safer bet to make the majors because of his GB tendencies, but probably in a reliever role. I think Robinson has the better ceiling but lower floor.
Tropeano is a lot like Lyles, average velocity with a great changeup and developing curve. Real sleeper type, could be a lot like Lyles. Hallock is going to be 23 in a few days and has shown some good performances. But, with his age I’m skeptical at this point.
Oh, I didn’t know Trop had Lyles type velocity. I remember he had the great change up…I thought he was another 87-88 mph fastball guy
He has a chance to have lyles type velocity. Thats probably where he is sitting right now with the adjustment to pitching more often. End of next year I can see him being 89-90.
Not always, body type, body maturity, mechanics all play a factor. Given Tropes tall lanky build, he’s a candidate to add a little.
He has the frame that could stand to gain a few lbs of muscle to it
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
It gets very blurry after Cosart Folty for me. A few guys who could be B- but more likely really nice C+. After that, there are tons of C+ guys who have potential to really move up given better performance as they move up.
I think you're probably a little too high on Houser
Given he hasn’t even pitched in Greeneville yet. I would still put Oberholtzer above him as a BoR arm with MoR potential. For me it’s B- down through Oberholtzer then you get into C/C+ range. (I like Keuchel but let’s face it his ceiling is BoR.)
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
Oh, my mistake
Houser pitched once in Greeneville so far. I think the point stands though.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
I am probably higher than most on Houser, I really like the frame and I love the determination and drive the kid has. I’ve heard that he’s low to mid 90s right now in pro ball with a good curve. A lot of it is just gut feeling really.
I’m just saying I completely understand the difference in opinion.
I like Houser I'm just cautious
Since he wasn’t all that highly rated coming into the draft (it means he has more to prove). On the plus side it was a very deep draft.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
I think it was a factor of his region. He was in a division lower than the Bundy/Bradly group and they were all from within a 30 minute radius of each other. So, when scouts flocked to the area for chances to scout, they usually pitched the same night. Where would you go as a scout? Bundy/Bradley every time, especially if you are thinking of taking one very early in the draft, you want to watch them as much as possible.
That could be
For me it’s more like I can see his grade rising very quickly next year. But I’m taking a wait and see approach and not making assumptions.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
BoR is looking very likely for Keuchel, I still hold out hope for ceiling of #3 but its such a small chance is negligible.
The more I read, I’ve switched who I like better between Ob and Clemens. Body type kind of pulls him down I think and puts Clemens higher for me.
I kind of think Ob and Clemens are B's who were rated C+'s because they were in a loaded Braves system.
Anyways, I’m glad Wade pulled the trigger. Sure I would have liked the other guys. However, the guuys we got are exactly what the system needed. I think Wren was probably saying, look Oakland will take these guys for Crisp..I’m NOT giving you the guys you want so you can take these guys or I’ll go with Oakland.
My thoughts
Yeah I think they’re a bit underrated because of pitching in the loaded Braves system, but I think straight B is going a little too far. I have a hard time giving a straight B to any pitcher with a middle rotation ceiling unless I feel very confident that they can reach it (and I think Oberholtzer is more likely a no. 4 and Clemens more likely a late inning relief arm).
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
These aren't quite right to me. My rankings:
1. Cosart – Easily our best pitching prospect. He and Lyles will be our future #1 and #2.
2. Oberholtzer – Has 3 good pitches. Should be a #3 or #4.
3. Keuchel – Mr. Consistency should be our #4 or #5 of the future.
4. Folty – Has been up and down this year, but that may be because he’s been asked to work on one specific thing, so he could just be throwing fastballs every pitch in order to improve his command. We’ll see how legitimate he is once he gets to Corpus Christi.
5. Clemens – Has a fairly high ceiling, but position is unknown right now. Could be a starter, could be a closer-type. He’s got great stuff, but he’s still pretty raw.
6. Houser – Has a high ceiling, but is unproven. So far so good, though.
7. Sosa – Was once considered a #1 or #2. Things have obviously gone wrong, but he’s still got some talent. Hopefully a change of scenery gets him back on track.
8. Zeid – Has the best slider in the minors. If he can solidify his other stuff, he could be our closer or set-up man of the future.
9. Tropeano – Has been lights out in Tri-City. Could figure into our future rotation.
10. Stoffel – If he can consistently command his fastball, he should be a reliable pitcher from the bullpen.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Aug 2, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Sosa I think was taken by Ed bc SF kind of gave up on him after his shoulder and chest
injuries that slowed his development
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
Singleton rips a line drive single to RF
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
YAY, i love that kid, plus hes 19 doing that stuff.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 11:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Awesome!
@AstrosProspects
Justin Sarabia
Not at the game, but hearing Cosart is pumping it in there at 95+ MPH and topped out at 98. That’s about right for his scouting report
GREAT NEWS!!! Deshaes said he topped out at 99 his last start.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 11:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Once he learns that he doesnt have to be just a thrower like Bud was and just learns to pitch
this kid is gonna damn good.
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
yes, i really hope he stays healthy. Hes overpowering.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 11:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
CB seems to need some work. threw two behind the same batter in diff ABs. lol
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
almost like lyles againsnt braves.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 11:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
“You can’t make lemonade with rotten lemons; that’s just silly. You need sugar too!”
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Lay off the catnip Busta. lol
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
by StrosSouth on Aug 2, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
16-3 Lancaster down. Just gave up GS
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
lol now singleton is really exposed.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 11:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I really like Paredes
Durango seems like a fast guy that can’t hit the ball in the air a whole lot. Martinez has good at bats, I think he’ll come around. It’s fun to watch the young guys
j.d. says hes rushing himself, plus he said he never dreamed of being in tge mlb
Hes prbly shell shocked of the size of stadium, durango seems like he jumps on ball.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 11:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Durango should be a slap hitter and using his legs to get on base ot hitting in the air
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
Jon Meyer HR
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
by StrosSouth on Aug 2, 2011 11:55 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
MEYER WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
by BustaPozee on Aug 3, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wanna run through the halls of my high school, I wanna scream at the top of my lungs
by Brad E on Aug 3, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That Jon Meyer not John Mayer there guys..lol
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
I wanna wear a pretty pink tutu, running far & through
With streamers ducked taped to my hands stretched out wide
and screaming skip to my lou.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Anyone know when our contract with Lancaster is up? Id like for us to be able to send
our young SP to our A+ team without killing there confidence
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
Or risking damaging a hitters approach at the plate
not a whole not of need for batters to make adjustments in that league… and specifically that park.
Thats why I hope Singleton goes on a tear here pretty soon to regain his confidence
after Philly org screwed with his stance and head.
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
Problem is
that park can reinforce bad habits by rewarding them… I just hope we have really really good coaches that stay on top of the players development constantly there.
You would hope that they are but him being there for the short time remaining this season
might help him with his confidence.
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
I beleive it was Jon Gaston who said that it was overblown and that you still have to make solid contact no matter what You don’t make solid contact, you will still ground out or flyout.
Im not expecting a Cecil Fielder type turnaround but coming from the FSL to
the friendlier Cal League should be a boost to his confidence
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That reasoning is false. Hitters who are interviewed about it say that it get overblown. You have to make adjustments there. You still have to refine your approach, still have to work on your swing. It’s not about succeeding in numbers, the coaches still are going to make you work.
I used to think on the same line as you guys. But, I have gotten a chance to talk with a few people associated with the league and I’ve come to see a lot of positives about the Cal League and Lancaster that are very strong positives and unique challenges that are good for the prospects.
Surprisingly, MLB did a study and the Cal league isn’t even the most offensive league.
intresting, whaylt is the most offensive league?
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am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 12:21 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
bc its offensive to all fans this year
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Austin Wates single up the middle
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Urckfitz on the mound for JetHawks
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His stock has dropped a lot this year.
Up to triple-A, down to Lancaster.
What’s the deal with him. I recall him getting blown up in Spring training.
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Here's my top 10 position prospects, let me know what you guys think:
1. Jonathan Singleton – The obvious choice. Singleton has All-Star potential. Very patient hitter with great power potential. Dangerous combination.
2. Jonathan Villar – It’s tough to put him at #2, but he’s got gold glove defensive potential, and he’s got some pop. He’s made some good progress over the past two weeks. Not striking out as much, walking a bit more, but most of all, getting hits. I think another year at CC should do it for him. Hopefully he’ll be ready by 2013.
3. Kody Hinze – Much like Singleton, Hinze is patient hitter with good power potential. He’s not on the same level as Singleton in terms of power potential, but he could be a 20-30 HR guy who gets on base quite a bit. He wasn’t drafted very high, but he’s putting up big numbers.
4. Austin Wates – Has been very consistent at Lancaster. He gets on base, he hits doubles, and he steals bases. Should be a solid backup OF if everything goes wrong for him.
5. Telvin Nash – This is probably too high for most others on this board, but Nash is one of my favorite prospects. He’s got great power potential. While he’s been walking at a high rate this year, his Ks are high. If he can fix that, he should become one of our top prospects.
6. Delino DeShields Jr. – Started off the year very slowly, but he’s bounced back. BA has gone from .200 to around .230 in a 2 week time span. He’s also made some big progress on stealing bases. I think he’s 13 for his last 16 attempts. He’s got the speed, but he’s got to improve his technique. He’s also got power potential. Has hit 6 HRs this year, and has the potential to hit far more. K rate is alarmingly high, but he’s only 18.
7. Ariel Ovando – Ovando is unproven, but I think he’s got the highest ceiling of anyone in the farmsystem. Has got some serious bat speed and power potential. Once he proves himself at Lexington and Lancaster, he’ll become our top prospect. That’s an if though. No guarantees at this point in his career. So far, he’s been pretty good at Greeneville.
8. Chris Wallace – Wallace is an interesting prospect. He’s got some power potential, but his defense looks pretty poor so far at CC. Next year will decide if he’s legitimate enough. While he’s made big strides this year, I’m not quite sold on him. Defense needs a lot of work.
9. Jio Mier – Looks like a bust from my point of view, but he’s still got time to turn it around.
10. Adam Bailey – Has been tearing it up this year. We’ll see how he does against legitimate pitching in the Texas League.
Springer will instantly shoot up to the top 5, but he’s not signed. He’s expected to sign, but I still have my concerns.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
off topic, does anyone know why villar deleted his twitter
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by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 12:26 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
got no clue. maybe hacked? maybe not enough followers? I doubt hes getting called up
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he did complain about his followers.
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am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 12:34 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
whos morons
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wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 12:38 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
his followers. where they morons?
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idk he had only 90 something i think
He tweeted 93 tweets his first 2 days tgen never tweeted again.
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am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 12:42 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Very weak group if Springer doesn’t sign, mostly because the top 3 other than singleton were called up.
Agree
Of course any time you promoted two top 100 prospects it’s going to weaken your depth there. I would not put Hinze nearly that high also, he should be about 8th on this list behind Ovando. 1B only guy having a career year while being old for his level requires a lot of caution. Telvin Nash is too high as well. It’s tempting to overrate the pure hitters who statistically mash but you really have to pay attention to defensive tools/upside as well.
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Agreed
Hinze wouldn’t be ahead of Nash in my list. Nash’s upside is much better. I’d have Ovando higher than both as well.
Wallace's defense isnt that bad, He's been the victim of some bad pitching since he got here
to Corpus. Most of it from the pen. He calls a rather good game even while hes working with young raw pitchers. Defense does need some work but not as much as what youre stating.
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his hitting been lacking lately
i hope he comes out of it a slugging catcher would be great
Not much protection behind anymore and also been catching more than Frostad and
int he extreme heat and humidity down will zap you of strength and energy big time as a catcher
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that too but I think its more a combo of no protection and the heat draining him
tomorrow for instance its supposed to 104 or 105 with the heat index plus the normal humidity that we have
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then you know what Im talking about
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Lancaster down 17-4... Simunic warming up in the pen... No joke.. lol
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FUNNY!
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by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 12:27 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Gues hes the organiztion's Jose Oquendo
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Ken Griffey Sr. is coaching in Cal League?
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This is probably me in the future:
I’ll have a cat named Betty.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Cats piss me off. They have worse attitudes than a woman can.
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Lol, how many cats do you have?
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by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 12:40 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
This many:
I call this room, “the happy room”, because cats make me happy.
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I don't even need Christmas presents! Cats give me all the happiness in the world!
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AHHHHHHHHH!!!!
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by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 12:46 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
oh my god. cats are annoying
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by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 12:45 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Must. Buy. More. Cats.
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Carlos Lee
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Carlos Lee's agent is a cat
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lol wow busta, you need to move to a doghouse in a backyard
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by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 12:51 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Folty
Do you think the Astros will jump him up to corpus like lyles next season? I think folty would actually be ok in lancaster with his power sinker but I could be wrong
by Astro Dave88 on Aug 3, 2011 12:38 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
He’s not a big risk in Lancaster. But skipping him would be too aggressive. Repeat half of the season and re-evaluate is what I would do.
Well since he is catching they could move him up
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bushue is catching? how long ago did it start?
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by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 12:43 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL. It was a joke on an older podcast. LMAO
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I love it!!! I’m still surprised at how many people don’t get that one with as much as it gets referenced
That has to be the BEST line ever on the podcast. Second would be the
hobbit reference on the last one.
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ohh well what happen, my netgearbox broke so i
Cant download or listen to the podcast anymore
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am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 12:49 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Bushue is very interesting. Velocity is 85-87 sometimes, 87-90, 89-91 others. Curve has very good potential. It seems like the issue (other than injury) is consistency, changeup, fastball location. He controls his stuff (gets it in the zone), but doesn’t command it I think, which is why you see lots of HR’s, he leaves it too high in the zone and his stuff isn’t good enough to do that.
Scouting reports are very positive
But i think a lot depends on how he looks in spring training next year. He is supposedly very thin right now. If he comes into ST with a lot more bulk and better consistency with his breaking ball I could see him moving up to Corpus Christi.
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That’s what I was thinking too. Could potentialy be an interesting rotation in Lexington to start the season. Potential candidates: Folty, houser, hallock, velasquez, trope, bushue, and few more I can’t think of off the top of my head
by Astro Dave88 on Aug 3, 2011 12:45 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I doubt VV starts the season at Lancaster coming off of TJ surgery
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SINGLETON HR!!!!!!
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by StrosSouth on Aug 3, 2011 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Singleton mashing so far
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by OremLK on Aug 3, 2011 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He didnt hit it in Lancaster tho. They were on the road
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oh
plus better pitchers in cc and there will be no debate on the cal league affect then
Clemens was a non-prospect
With a red-flag strikeout rate, and also a lot older than Singleton is.
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In other news
The M’s acquired Chance Ruffin to complete their Doug Fister trade, as the PTBNL. That gives me more hope about the PTBNL in the Pence trade. Ruffin is a very good relief prospect who was taken in the supplemental first round last year.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
It will be interesting to see who is on the list and who we pick although I know we wont ever
see the damn list.
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The returns for the Pence & Bourn trades would be drastically different if the PTBNL is someone who is actually significant.
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The way I understand the ptbnl rule is that you can’t trade a player until one year after he signs out of the draft. So They won’t be able to announce until it’s the one year anniversary of the player signing, so I figure the closer it gets to august 15 the better the guy could be if it was an overslot signing
by Astro Dave88 on Aug 3, 2011 12:50 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Thats one reason. They also formulate lists for organizations can get more time to scout and choose from the list. They have six months in those cases. This is probably one of those instances since it is supposedly a non impact prospect.
Gotcha, hopefully we can find a diamond in the rough!
by Astro Dave88 on Aug 3, 2011 12:58 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Seriously though, very nice return for the M’s… three good prospects.
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by OremLK on Aug 3, 2011 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Someone at BBTF said that the Mariners might have a cottage industry going….take mediocre control pitchers, put them in the rotation with a strong defense behind them, allow them to play at a pitcher’s park, then trade them at the deadline….rinse, repeat.
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Simunic can do it all!!!!! Stand up 2B!!!
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Austin Wates oppo field 2run HR!!! 9 pitch AB
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by StrosSouth on Aug 3, 2011 12:50 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
SINGLETON HR!!!!!!!
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by StrosSouth on Aug 3, 2011 12:51 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
What!!!! Did you say Singleton hit a homerun?
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BACK TO BACK JACKS FOR WATES AND SINGLETON
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awesomeness, i had a feeling they were gonna go deeo
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am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 12:58 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Love to see Wates and Singleton go back-to-back.
Wates needs to be in CC.
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close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
well apparently he does according to announcer
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I think the corner OF spots have a fair amount of depth right now too
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he tore up Lexington but has been so so at Lancaster so far
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Senior Citizen baseball league starts Monday.
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strosouth did they say where homers went?
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by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 1:02 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Wates went oppo field and Im pretty sure Singleton pulled his
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good cheeze for sure.
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am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 1:15 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
off topic, i just saw brave highlight....do any of yall tginl bourn looks terrible in a giants uni
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by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 1:05 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Bourn in a braves uniform looks like he was never an Astro all along. You just don't see that anymore. It's weird.
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exactly, when i saw pence i started wondering, whats he look like in stros uni again?
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by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 1:14 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Pence is loving it in Philly.
He’s probably glad he’s with them. And you can definitely see his happiness in his twitter account.
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definately espacially his eating deal.
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am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 1:22 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Roy O is the one I thought looked strangest in a Phillies uni
Still not totally used to it.
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it seems like forever ago he was an astro now
still mad at lance not getting in shape till he left………… ASSHOLE
by charliea on Aug 3, 2011 1:50 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Getting into shape does not guarantee success
After all, Prince Fielder is fat and is a good hitter
Carlos Lee has gotten slimmer, but he’s not hitting well.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Lee is much older than Prince though and neither has had knee issues
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Yeah it was weird watching his 1st start as a Phillie
I’ve grown used to it now though.
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When Oswalt eventually retires, I hope that he does one of those “1 Day contracts”(If they even do that in baseball so he can sign/retire as an Astro.
If Oswalt gets healthy and can maintain pitching at a high level, I’d really like to see him resign with the Astros eventually and pitch again. Bring Jake Peavy with him.
ya braves uni. i think he looks very awkward, maybe cause i wish he was still an astro.
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am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 1:13 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It's all weird seeing Pence & Bourn in different jersies.
Just like is was seeing Puma in a Yankees jersey. But times change unfortunately.
We’re in for rebuilding in the long haul. We will develop new fan favorites later. It’s all about getting better for the future.
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paredes and altuve will now have banners.
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by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 1:23 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
More likely it will be JD and Altuve
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j.d says he still is overwelhmed by everything, give him some time and he'll get back.....hes such a pure hitter
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by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 1:30 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i doubt it, he seems VERY commited to the young players and coaching them like a him like a high school team.
Which imo is a good thing.
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by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 1:38 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
From what someone posted on here ealerier it sounds like JD is pressing
trying to do too much right now. Once he relaxes and settles in Im sure he’ll do just fine
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IT WAS MEEEE!!!!! makes me feel good too
Anyways ya thats what it is, he said hes still trying to get back to normal. Hes never played in a big stadium, hes overwelmed.
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by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 1:43 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Parades on main street for Paredes
Altuve visiting children at schools & teaching them leadership skills,
Singleton’s Boys in the right field seats.
Cosart’s high heat spicy tex-mex…
But man, it’s hard envisioning a good team in the near future with the status our farm system because there are so many holes in the farm system.
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not so bad if the current young guys already in the mlb produce
paredes, atluve, schafer, jd, castro, lyles. then add some of what we do have villar, sosa, singleton nash baily bushue folty cosart, clemens that other lefty from atl ddj and things look a whole lot better
A lot better than currently, but those players don’t exactly shout “playoff team”. It’s a good group of young players, but not one of the pitchers have really ace stuff other than Cosart, which is disappointing. I think Houser has a chance to be an ace, but he’s pretty far away from pitching in the majors. Vincent Velasquez could also be an ace in my eyes as well, but the further away a player is from the majors, the less predictable they are.
4 years from now we might be seeing some serious progress in working our way to a playoff team once again with our high-upside pitchers making it to the majors by then. And also by then we might have amassed 2 1st overall picks, possibly including Lance McCullers who along with Cosart, Houser, Folty, & Velasquez could make a deadly rotation in the future. That along with Singleton, and some other power hitters would make this team a contender once again.
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lotta ifs in there though.. he is an ace if he fully develops
and he is only 3-4 years away from the majors IF he develops enough to make it at all.
Besides most of the stuff I have read on him suggested that he had a #2 ceiling.
Cosart and Folty both have no. 1 potential
I don’t think Houser does.
Don’t forget Bud Norris. He’ll be around what, 4-5 more years? I think he could develop into an ace. More likely a number two guy though.
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now he just dropped off hte radar. He must have had a major injury
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TJ surgery is gonna set him back awhile
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At his age though they are probably taking it easy. Im sure his body isnt done
growing yet. Subber is the one you should really talk to about this as he is our inhouse Physical Therapist. He went into great detail on this topic a few days ago.
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i think it was like a number 2
but what will he come back as
wow la russa was pissed off after the game, check it out errrone.
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by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 1:35 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
we need power third basemans after we picked up all that pitching
thats our thinnist debt im now sold son knasika or whatever his name is
he doesnt have alot of pop from what ive seen K in lexington seems better to me but thats just me
of what we have i prefer paredes love the speed power combo
Kwaz hasnt shown any real power for 3rd but does seem to be hitting for avg. pretty well
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average been dropping last couple months
if he cant hit bombs must hit over 300
exactly. With all the movement in the system last month or so Lex and Lancaster
and now CC have thin rosters
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yeah its looking like it was two years ago
but with a younger ml roster
but what if u have trey willams and a ace that ranks the same like a strausburg
wich way do u go u dont know whats going to be there in a year
Feast your eyes on this possible rotation in the future:
McCullers
Cosart
Houser
Foltynewicz
Velasquez
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Fantastic prep arm for next year's draft
He’s a candidate to go number one but I don’t want us to take a HS pitcher.
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Take the big bat first then go get your power arms
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5 tool players are also hard to find
And with the drop in power since the steroid era, power is such a bigger commodity now, especially on this team.
But if McCullers improves enough next year, I would take him over Nick or Trey Williams.
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We are not in any hurry to win so drafting a college and rushing them isnt
what this franchise needs to do.
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im not saying rushing them but colledge players are close had more coaching
and i hope our nucleaus is already in the ml pareds, atulve, jd lyles norris, plus yound bulpen
I would not call that our nucleus... it is our first wave
some will make it, some will not. Some of those that make it will “hopefully” have better come up behind them and they will be traded away for prospects… do not get too attached to anyone right now we are in a long process.
we are thinking realistically here
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We will not even be close to sniffing the WS by 2014. We
will most likely if anything just beginning to sniff the wild card area at that point.
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u never know unless ur a fortune teller u dont know whats instore for this club in 2014
theres always hope
You seriously need to learn how a baseball organization
is rebuilt when its minor league system is as depleted as ours was and still is to some degree.
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the dbacks i feel we could relate too, terrible pen, they rebuilt it and look at them, abut they do have upton.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
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am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 2:11 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Not suggesting we would
This is a process where it could be 3 years to respectability … another 2 years to a winning record and then another 2 till we are serious contenders… but if we do it right and keep it going we could be legitimate contenders for a decade or even multiple decades.
hopefully well see what ownership does and whos the gm
just hope wade doesnt mess up signing our 1 and 3 pick especially springer
Crane could go out and pick up some Free Agent ptiching talent in the next few years to so you never know….That could help.
It very well could but going off his own words it
sounds like we are going to do it through the draft though which means a few years of bad ball and playing to get to .500 and then starting to sniff the playoffs.
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I am just saying the biggest positive I can think of
is that our front office realizes that we are trying to increase our “total value” and to do so we need to look at every “asset” as being a means to that end and not an end unto themselves.
you really need to get over the Bagwell and Biggio era of
winning. When Bagwell came up Biggio was already there and it still took that team several years to even play respectable ball.
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Them being together that long in todays game is a rarity
with FA. You most likely will never see that again in your lifetime.
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true they were unique they gave up money to do it
but its not out of the relm of possiblilities either
In todays game it most liekly is though.
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dont make me sad strossouth..
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 2:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Not a buzzkill. Just being realistic here.
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Well she not that much older thant me
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Im not that old. not quite 40 yet but
gettn there.
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Seriosuly Im being realistic. You want see
some negativity go over to Houston Chronicle site and you will DEF see some negativity there. lol
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i get enough negative with their record and watching them every night
i have hope for the future
lol. Always hope for the best but
be realistic about it.
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sorrrrrry, but im very commited to astros, i have a hard time losing....
WINWINWINWINWIMWIM, WE WILL WIN BY 2013!!!!!!! Im an optimist for now on.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 2:15 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I just dont want to see us push early
end up mediocre and find ourselves in another rebuilding situation six years from now after a collection of mediocre years.
At the beginning of this season our organization looked a whole lot the 94 Pirates and the 94 Tigers to me… I am hoping that we are going to be headed in a different direction.
I guess my whole thing is
we as fans can fall in love with players… and we can get overly optimistic… and we can think that the the time is now.
Our front office though cannot if we want any kind of sustainable success and championship hopes. They have to look objectivley at every player and every prospect as assets and decide what the best use of those assets is to not only improve the club now but to keep the organizational strength improving now and in the future. By future I mean indefinate future too… I dont want to reach a point where we get back to the upper echelon by sacrificing our farm, I want a system that flows a river of talent for as long as we can conceivably keep it running, and getting that river to a sustainable level could take 5-7 years easily.
Thank you. Just what Ive been trying
to impress upon these young guns here. lol
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me too....if this means anything the tigers won like 45 games in 03 and ened up in tge world series in 06. anything strossouth anything is possible
OPTIMISM
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 2:40 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Keep dreaming CC keep dreaming kid lol
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lol i know im just having fun, but hey! im doing my new job.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 2:49 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i just hope were respectable by that time.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 2:51 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I think we see another season similar
to this one and then start playing for .500 in 2013 and improving each year. Of course once Lee’s off the payroll anything is possible.
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
that sounds like a plan, i think crane just needs to stick to his pitching builds winners aproach.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 2:57 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I know CC! You and Busta keep me
on my toes.
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that makes me feel good. lol
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 2:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
We arent in need of a college player. This franchise wont be ready to
compete until 2014 at the earliest. The Astros “nucleus” are all 24 and younger. There is no need to select and rush any college player.
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Baseball is the only sport in which you don’t draft for need because the minors weave out so many prospects. The best strategy is to draft by best avalible
by Astro Dave88 on Aug 3, 2011 1:57 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah.
I would have to see a major improvement from his season last year to consider getting him. There are so many unknowns about high school pitchers and their development is so early that it’s kinda like selecting a little league player in a draft. The reason why players don’t get drafted & go to the big leagues is because they have things they need to work on. And if they can’t fix current problems, they can’t be a major leaguer.
Would the Astros be willing to take that risk even with everything else on the table? Premium pitchers don’t grow on trees, but their bust rate is pretty high. Luckily there is another year to evaluate talent.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Thats why you never sign a HS pitcher with the first overall pick
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To my knowledge I don’t believe there has been a #1 overall pick that hasn’t signed. It would send a horrible message to the fans, organization etc and would be an absolute nightmare to deal with if you didn’t sign him
by Astro Dave88 on Aug 3, 2011 2:03 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Well it would be unlikely with hard slotting... if they cannot go higher than #1
Or make significantly more than you are offering then they are likely to sign.
Now the scary part is with hard slotting we are likely to lose not only the type A/B compensation system but also the unsigned draft pick compensation system.
Meaning if you fail to sign your first round pick… you are SOL, no free pick for you.
Yeah McCullers is atop my preliminary list... I only have 6 on the list right now
Lance McCullers
Mark Appel
Lucas Giolito
Trey Williams
David Thompson
Kevin Gausman
Exactly Busta. With the high rate fizzle with pitchers take the more likely to succeed
big abt whether it be HS or college.
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I haven't forgot about him
Those are arms who are highly touted, with Ace potential.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Not a fan of McCullers, looks super duper injury prone and uses max effort. Also a highschool rhp has never been taken #1 overall before so history is working against it
by Astro Dave88 on Aug 3, 2011 1:51 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
True, but to quote John F. Kennedy which could be adapted to this situation:
We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too.
Do we chose the less riskier player, or do we chose the player that could have the most impact if he succeeds?
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
With the first overall pick
We ought to be able to get the best of both worlds. Shouldn’t have to choose. Of course maybe this is a weak enough draft that it comes down to that, but I doubt it.
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Nice quote and true, just me personally i value a 5 tool hitter more so than a hs arm like him. I just feel both williams have more potential Now if there was someone with Strasbourg potential at the top of the draft I would take him in a heartbeat.
by Astro Dave88 on Aug 3, 2011 2:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Of course there still is an entire year left of scouting so let’s hope 1 or 2 guys start separating themselves from the pack to make it a little easier lol my bets would be on mark Appel exploding this year, one of the Williams continue to blow up, and somebody we haven’t seen yet will make a strong run at the pick I believe
by Astro Dave88 on Aug 3, 2011 2:14 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Well that’s because this was a rare draft because everyone was so good. You could legitimately argue 4 people could go for that top pick last year and any of them would be the no doubt #1 pick this year
by Astro Dave88 on Aug 3, 2011 2:21 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You are correct, this draft unfortunately is lacking that type of banner prospect at the top. That would be our luck have a string of crazy good prospects at the top run out on us
by Astro Dave88 on Aug 3, 2011 2:24 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
SUBBER10 IM CALLING FOR YOU!!
Can you name some good restruants in nashville, im gonna be up there next friday cause my brother is gojng to school up there, do you know of any nice restruants in the area?
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 1:51 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I'll bite
Best case ceiling comps only, not likely outcomes. I’m sure you could plumb through a bunch of replacement level players and find their floors.
For Villar’s ceiling, how about Jose Hernandez with a bit less power, but more speed and better defense?
For Cosart’s best case ceiling, I’ll go with Josh Beckett.
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No way, he strikes out way too much
Jose Reyes is a fantastic contact hitter. I can see Villar improving his strikeout rate, but he will never be a good hitter for average.
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Totally was about to write that, I think in the modern game today Eric aybar would be close to me.
by Astro Dave88 on Aug 3, 2011 2:18 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I would Shawon Dunston but with a better bat
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villar is a king machine, but he could be as cocky as him
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 2:20 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
same speed though plus hes got pop for a ss
hopefully he cuts some of those SO down but will never hit for the average he does i agree
He could be like Reyes if Reyes had a below average hit tool
But I think hit tool is probably the most important one in drawing a player comp, so…
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im thinking 280 15 hr 40 steals if he reaches potential
by charliea on Aug 3, 2011 2:20 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That seems overly optimistic on the average, HR
I can see 40 steals maybe, but I think .260 with 10 HR seems more realistic as a tip-top best case scenario (still a long way to go to get there). However a shortstop who can bat .260/.330/.370 with 40 stolen bases and gold glove defense is a valuable asset.
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I think he'll have to cut down his stroke to lower the Ks
And even reach that .260 number. He swings for the fences too much, he needs to put the ball on the ground and use his speed. It’s an adjustment he’s going to have to make or he will probably be a total bust. Once he adjusts to tone down his swing, I can see him getting just above 10 HR for a handful of seasons in his prime.
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He see more FB here in AA than he will at the ML level. Plus the secondary
pitches here generally are not as polished as those of ML pitchers
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
If you look up the career stats for Shawon Dunston who played for the
Cubs I think you will see Villar’s best comparison. Excellent range, excellent glove, +arm, with an avg bat for SS
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
played for Cubs in the 80's just google him
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
Never forget Mike Scott's nono to win pennant in last
game of the season.
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
That's reasonable
I think his best case outcome could be a bit better than Dunston was overall. But that’s a good rough template for what he could become.
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To me he profiles very similar to Dunston physically but he should
hit much better than Dunston for sure.
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AA and the show are 2 completely different monsters my friend
by Astro Dave88 on Aug 3, 2011 2:26 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
true he would have to make adjustments
im doubt full hell ever get his average up but if he does i think some pop could come but hes along way away from that
I love LSU but
even I wish he was with the Stros instead.
LSU has name rep and can reload in recruiting. The Astros need all the talent they can get.
"Jose Reyes like tendencies."
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=15467149
Maybe Jose Reyes is his ceiling.
I know what positive thinking is but what scouts are referring to?
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McCarthy and Duquette don't know what they're talking about
They’re talking heads. Jonathan Mayo is the only legitimate minor league analyst MLB.com uses for these videos, as far as I know.
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The comparison is not that far off
Reyes slash line in 1300 MiLB ABs .285/.338/.423
Villars slash line in 1200 MiLB ABs .257/.334/.375
by Neil Leininger on Aug 3, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Youre trusting Jim Duquette and some guy they hired just to do that? haha Those two are not
professional scouts young man.
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Damn, you guys are still at it.
Nearly 3 am.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
Ok here is a question for the night owls...
Do not name the name of a specific GM you want but from what 5 organizations would you most want our GM to come from assuming that they would instill some of the practices of their current franchise?
I guess I am more impressed with Atlanta than Tampa
because they did not have a collection of high draft picks in consecutive years and they have kept both the major league club competitive and the organization producing.
Tampa has spent plenty of money, do not just pay attention to their MLB payroll
They have an academy in Venezuela, the Dominican, and Brazil … and they go over slot often in mid rounds..
Still you never know how the decisions will change with more money or less. Atlanta operates in a similar market and someone from their front office would theoretically have the same resources to work with here as they would there.
They could probably expand their major league payroll honestly
but it would mean abandoning some of their commitment to youth and since they are not in one of the big markets that would mean and eventual hard fall.
Theyve also been smart with their FA. They offer them arb and if they leave
they get the comp picks
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
we need a good pitching coach
not going to happen but id love to have duncan from stl best pitching coach in the mlb
or mike maddux
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 2:53 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
ight im out fellas and fellers
Optimism is the way to go. Good luck paredes and astros team. Sleep tight
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 3:05 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Mel Stottlemeyer or see if Hooten wants to join the big league club again
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Drayton is an idiot. He knows nothing about baseball and it shows in how hes run this
franchise into the ground.
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Hopefully Mills is gone and Crane hires Friedman who will bring in HC that
will take this team in the right direction
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Just saying he needs to bring in a new HC
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
got a young team i hear hes one of the smartest baseball people how bout bringing brad asmus
to coach
they were saying that before he even retired
u want to bring in fans with the team make ausmus biggio and bagwell and the coaching staff plus a pitching coach and ull get people to watch and interested
Ausmus I can see but Biggio is still coaching his kids I think
and Bags obviously doesnt that full time committment
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If he doesnt want ot show his then Id let him be a roving
fielding instructor in the minors
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he does that hes a special assistant to ed wade him and bags both
they just dont talk about it much
Yea I know about Baggy as the news crews
here in Corpus are all over it when he comes to town didnt know about Biggio though
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they need to go ahead ant let j mike go hes no good to this team and the younger guys could use his at bats
he serves so purpose on a rebuilding team
Im ok wiht having one vet bat off the bench since this is a wash and more than halfway over
at this point. Next year though he need to be gone.
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
one more thought
Paredes first homer will be on a high fastball and it will be opposite field liner into the crawford boxes, everyone will cheer and be happy and paredes will be a fan favorite someday and have a banner on the stadium outside. Hes got the swag of dominicana and will be a fan favorite with his swagga. (Hes my favorite if yall are wondering)
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 3:18 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
last comment i swear. i hope he makes all adjustments and keeps flinging the bat in his hands like a helicopter before the pitch.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 3, 2011 3:26 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i hope all 3 or th AA call ups make the adjustments there the reason im still watching
its not for carlos and myers
lol. who the hell would watch for Lee and Myers?
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WHAT DO YOU THINK OF A LINEUP LIKE THIS?
CF M. Bourn
2B B. Roberts
RF J. Baustita
LF L. Scott
SS T. Tuloweski
1B B. Wallace
3B C. Johnson
C J. Casto
P M. Latos
Couple voids in the lineup at the 6 and 7 spot... two over the hill players at 2 and 4
a whole crap load of money at 3 and 6… and a good #2/3 starter.
Might be a playoff team might not.
Why is it
there are no really good baseball games out there?
I mean the best game for a full front office feel was the old EA MVP baseball but even it had issues with trades and drafted players being ready to play day 1.
Prob because they guys that design and make those games prob have never played
or watched a baseball game.
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
A Front Office Games is
MLB Front Office Manager although it was not a great selling games it was developed with the help of Billy Beane and Brian Cashman
It was not fun at all
It took forever to get things going and was simply boring. Big letdown.
by Patrick Harrel on Aug 3, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm going to make a roster for MLB the show
Of all our young talent in the big leagues.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
The best is ABPA by far
You don’t get the cool graphics, but the results are much more realistic. Of course, I prefer rolling the dice anyway.
by Neil Leininger on Aug 3, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
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