Astros Sign George Springer, Jack Armstrong At Deadline
by David Coleman on Aug 16, 2011 1:01 AM CDT
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PrintAt a press conference that is no doubt still going on, the Houston Astros are announcing that they signed both George Springer and Jack Armstrong before the signing deadline tonight. No word yet on the signing bonuses, but they should be pretty good, if the other signings tonight are any indication. UPDATE - Springer signed for $2.525 million, according to @Zoodig through MLB Trade Rumors. Brian McTaggart just tweeted that Armstrong got $750,000 in his deal, which was right around what Austin Wates got last season (and what I totally called for the past week). Springer's deal is also about $500,000 over slot.
In other tangential baseball news, the Pirates signed Texas prepster Josh Bell for a reported $5 million dollars. Bell was the first pick in the second round, despite sending a letter to every team saying he would honor his commitment to the University of Texas. Looks like A&M isn't the only one running away from the Longhorns...bazinga!
That also means Houston did not reach an agreement 14th round pick Gandy Stubblefield, who will head to College Station and play for the Aggies.
No word yet on the contracts each player signed, so what are your best guesses on Springer and Armstrong? Are you surprised either or both got deals done? Has there been a bigger day of Astros news in a while? I know the trades were big, but there have been some big stories compressed all on this Monday. It's a lot to deal with.
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me haaaaappy
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 15, 2011 11:21 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I don’t really want to keep Ed around ,but he has for sure made a good bid on why he should stay here. Our farm system has taken amazing turn these last few weeks.
I see what you are saying, but Wade has been for 4 years and only after he had his back to wall and was told by Jim Crane to clear payroll so we could get good young prospects in here, did he actually do it. He should have done this years ago.
His boss didn’t let him. Drayton is the one who refused to accept that this team needed to rebuild. When you have a hands on owner, GM’s aren’t given the reigns of the team.
by Subber10 on Aug 16, 2011 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Oh I completely agree with you on that. Drayton has meddled for far too long and run off good baseball guys like Gerry Hunsicker while keeping lesser guys such as Tal Smith simply because tehy are yes men. However, Wade isnt without blame. Drayton is as cheap as a billionaire can be so I know he didnt order the Matsui, Hall and Feliz signings. Nor did he order the re-signing of Myers and Wandy (and put in the trade popper in Wandy’s deal).
Building through the draft
I’m glad/relieved that the Astros got this done and signed Springer and Armstrong, two prospects that could make debuts in the next two to three seasons.
No matter what anyone says
Wade does know how to build a farm system IMO. Not as great a GM as the Hun was for us but better than terrible Purp. Wade weakness is Free Agency and picking the correct players for the team
Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio were the last of a dying breed of players who would live and die for their team
the only reason I am not recing is because of your BAZINGA!
When you ask Carlos Lee what his favorite place to play is, and he anwsers with the words, anywhere with a Buffet. You know theirs a real problem.
by orangeblood kid on Aug 15, 2011 11:25 PM CDT reply actions
alysonfooter Alyson Footer
twitvid.com/TJBO6 – New vid: Scouting director Bobby Heck discusses signing first and third round picks Springer/Armstrong
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 15, 2011 11:29 PM CDT reply actions
alysonfooter http://t.co/jbFXasC – New vid: Scouting director Bobby Heck discusses signing first and third round picks Springer/Armstrong
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
brianmctaggart Brian McTaggart
Source: George Springer got $2.525 million and Jack Armstrong $750,000 from Astros
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 15, 2011 11:29 PM CDT reply actions
didnt bobby heck say that he was gonna let springer rest a cpl
Weeks before signinh him?
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 15, 2011 11:30 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
The Future
it is definitely looking brighter for the astros,and today was a good day to be an astros fans with the addition of george Springer and Domingo Santana. Paul Clemens on a side note pitched another great game for Corpus Christi he looking really good so far. I dont know much about jack armstrong though but i hear good things.
CampbellChron Steve Campbell
Armstrong went at more than twice his slot value. Springer went for more than 700 K above slot.
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 15, 2011 11:36 PM CDT reply actions
alysonfooter http://t.co/XCSIAzy – Vid: Ed Wade on signing draft picks
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
Astros now have some serious bats in the system with the addition of Springer.
Can’t wait to see him play.
Armstrong signing is also great news. Anyone know if he projects to be a starter or a reliever?
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
Starter if healthy
He could be a innings eating workhorse if he stays healthy.
by Patrick Harrel on Aug 16, 2011 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions
According to Keith Law:
He will touch 95 but should pitch at 90-94 as a starter
by clack on Aug 16, 2011 1:42 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I feel like he may average as high as 93mph when healthy, but we’ll see. He’s a really big guy with a great delivery and great arm speed.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
Interesting you say he has a great delivery, but don’t you have concerns on Cosarts delivery. They both are inverted W guys.
Still haven’t figureout pictures on here but a link to a picture. He has over 90 degree of shoulder abduction with extreme internal rotation to point his forearm down. Comparing this to video, his forearm should at least be parralel to ground or closer to straight up.
Right click on the image and click "open image in new tab"
Then click the little photo thing and copy and paste the url of the new tab.
by Patrick Harrel on Aug 16, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I think that's more of an an "inverted L"
A lesser version of the inverted W. But yeah, it’s not ideal, mechanically. My mistake.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
Brilliant.
And I’m laughing my ass off now at the reports of Atlanta being pissed off because their proposal for Pence was supposedly better.
Singleton/Cosart/Zeid/Santana is a pretty excellent return. Best trade of the Wade era, for sure…though it’s not like he had a ton of opportunities to deal for or deal away players.
i tell the truth; i lie a lot
I don't see how Atlanta could be pissed off
after Wade pretty much gave away Bourne.
"Kareem — verb: to be so horrible in coverage that the camera man is forced to zoom out in order to find the defender responsible for whoever just waltzed into the end zone." -Nashmeister
by RocketsAstros on Aug 16, 2011 5:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Reports have come out
that Atlanta never wanted Pence. They just wanted to drive his price up so that the Phillies would overpay and they could hopefully get Bourn for cheap.
by TexasCommodore on Aug 16, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Pence didn’t make near as much sense for Atlanta as Bourn did, imo, so I totally buy that.
by MadMartygan on Aug 16, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Clemens is looking pretty great so far.
Could be in the mix for our best SP prospect behind Cosart.
by YohannDookeyblue on Aug 16, 2011 9:33 AM CDT reply actions
Springer adds to a growing list of elite level prospects who the ‘stros have acquired in the last few years. Villar, Cosart, Singleton, Springer, Ovando and possibly even Clemens could all get top 100 type hype next season. That’s a giant improvement from last year.
Armstrong adds another high upside arm and should be in contention for top 10 in the system along with a group that includes Hinze, Chris Wallace, Wates, Mier, Santana, DeShields, Oberholtzer, Foltynewicz, Velasquez, and Houser.
When a player like DeLino DeShields Jr is fringe top 10, you know the system has legitimate prospect depth.
Armstrong
Glad, he signed. Wouldn’t have been surprised if he had gone back to school. He definitely has loads of talent. If he stays healthy, this pick could be a steal.
Bell
$5M? Isn’t that more than Trevor Bauer got as a top-5 pick? Hard to pass up on life-changing money like that.
Starting next season we should be less and less depth picks and hopefully more and more overslot guys. After the 1st 6-8 rounds, we should be drafting guys committed to college and offer them overslot. The farm is at the point that depth guys will only be pushing other quality depth out of the system too soon.
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