New Houston Astros Prospect Scouting Report: Juan Abreu, RHP
I figured we'd attack the prospects coming back in the Hunter Pence and Michael Bourn trades like we did the draft. The last guy we'll look at is Juan Abreu, where we look at his ceiling, floor and ETA to the majors.
Summary
Here's the thing with Juan Abreu: I'd be much more excited about him if he were 23 instead of 26. He's got a killer fastball that runs up to 98 at times. He's got a good breaking pitch, even if it is a bit of a hybrid. The question with him is control. Can Abreu harness his stuff to become an effective pitcher?
That's what makes Abreu so interesting. He's basically a lottery ticket thrown into this Michael Bourn deal. He has nothing but upside, because there are few expectations on him to come through. No one is talking about him being a big part of the deal and no one expects him to do anything but be a late-inning reliever some time soon.
The problem I have with this deal is that he was a free agent last offseason. Houston could have signed him, but the Braves swooped in instead. So, Atlanta basically included him as a favor to Ed Wade or got fantastic return for the cost of a Triple-A salary.
Floor
If he can't get his control under...control...his floor will not be as a major leaguer. If you look at some of the notable major league relievers who struggled with control like a Kyle Farnsworth, his minor league walk numbers were at 3 or under. Abreu's is much higher than that, which is why he was let go by the Royals and why Atlanta was okay trading him.
Ceiling
I mentioned he's a lottery ticket. With his fastball velocity and a controlled breaking ball, Abreu can be a great closer. The Braves used him that way in the minors and he can do the same thing for Houston, if he can throw strikes. Of all the relief prospects Houston has, Abreu might be the best potential closer, even if he is older than the rest.
ETA To Majors
Whenever someone gets hurt or becomes ineffective in the big league bullpen. Abreu is ready now but he won't be great right away. I expect him to be one of the September call-ups.
Bibliography after the jump...
He throws quite hard, hitting 95-96 MPH, but his breaking ball and changeup are erratic, and his control is mediocre. He could be an impressive bullpen arm if he can tone down his wildness. Grade C, but has some upside.
Flashing a 98 MPH fastball and a wipeout curve, Abreu has the ceiling of a quality bullpen option. At this point, his command limits him to a 7th inning role, but there’s more to dream on than the average 26-year old triple-A reliever.
Abreu is a short righty with a quick arm and a violent delivery that allows him to constantly get into the mid-90s with his fastball. He throws a solid but unspectacular hybrid breaking ball, but what has kept him in the minors is a lack of control and his extreme flyball tendencies. At his age, it's hard to see him suddenly turning things around, and it seems likely he’ll be an up-and-down relief type for years
Juan Abreu is a 26-year-old right-handed reliever in Triple-A with a huge arm (he'll touch triple digits) but well-below-average control; he was signed as a minor league free agent, which means the Astros could have had him for nothing this past offseason.
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It seem like 26 and 27 year old minor league relief pitchers have a better chance of making it to the majors than most minor leaguers at that age. Fulchino, Arias, and Lopez were all relievers who were somewhat older when they became productive in the Astros’ bullpen. Besides the control, Abreu’s flyball tendency is bothersome. At the ML level, it’s not hard to imagine him getting behind in the count and giving up a HR. Arias’ HR/fly rate is fairly low in the minors, but I am skeptical that holds up in the majors.
by clack on Aug 11, 2011 11:36 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
That should be “Abreu’s HR/fly rate” rather than Arias.
by clack on Aug 11, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Doesnt really matter
I think if you get one major league quality player out of that deal its a win. I dont think its gonna be him.
So, the Astros liked Grant Hogue better than Martinez?
by clack on Aug 11, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Grant Hogue was the CFer, his injury allowed for Linares to shuffle other guys into CF so JD could play.
Grant Hogue once again gets bashed but not by one of us this time. lol
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
Initially, I guess they did.
Also, CAN WE SIGN OUR GUYS ALREADY??? Sign Armstrong, Stubblefield, Flamion And, please… Granger now ? Offer Granger 850,00 and see if he turns it down. We need those guys in our system.
All these other teams are signing guys left and right for OVERSLOT deals and we’ve got our thumb up our ass. As Im typing this Dbacks jsut signed Athony Meo to an overslot deal…
by YohannDookeyblue on Aug 11, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
chill out Yohann
"This is a simple game, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the the ball, you got it?!"
Money isn’t everything that factors into signing Yohann. Granger has said he doesn’t want to sign, no matter how much you throw, he doesn’t want to. It’s a two way street. Just because you want him in the system doesn’t mean he’s worth 850k. He’s not even a top 30 prospect in the system in my book.
I’d like Flamion too, but he has a very strong commitment and he’s the type that wants to honor that commitment. Can’t fault him on that. Money isn’t everything.
Armstrong was just eliminated in the Cape yesterday. He’s the one who was wasn’t allowing negotiations until after he was done in the cape.
Springer will be a deadline day deal. Stubblefied will be too probably. He signed with A&M and thats pretty tempting. Its an up and coming program that made it to Omaha this year and they may be bringing Stinson back if he doesn’t sign. They’ll have a hell of a pitching staff and seem some good bats to make another run. Thats very tempting. Cant fault these guys.
And Armstrong is Houston right now for his physical and will immediatly start to exhange numbers after he clears.
Just posted that in a fan shot
When you ask Carlos Lee what his favorite place to play is, and he anwsers with the words, anywhere with a Buffet. You know theirs a real problem.
by orangeblood kid on Aug 11, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha, I will.
Im jsut getting anxious. Had 3 cups of coffee this morn’.
Good to hear about Armstrong.
As y’all know I’m REALLY high on Granger, but have resided to the fact that he won’t sign. Wish we could get Flamion too.
In the end if we can get Armstrong, Stubblefield, and Springer near or at the deadline that’ll be great. … I’m starting to doubt Stubblefield as well.
by YohannDookeyblue on Aug 11, 2011 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions

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