Youth Movement Leads Astros To Exciting 4-3 Win
It took eight innings for the Astros to score again after the second, but it was worth the wait.
With the bases loaded and no outs, Jose Altuve's hard-hit ball to Brandon Phillips drove in the winning run in the tenth inning.
Bud Norris' night was again cut short when he exited in the sixth with a blister on his right index finger, and that now makes two consecutive starts in which Bud has left early because of this problem. He was hit pretty hard tonight allowing ten hits through his five-plus innings, and I'm beginning to worry that this could be a lingering issue. His control wasn't very sharp either, and he had to work from the stretch for most of the game.
Jimmy Paredes had quite the major league debut when he tripled home two runs in the second, but the rest of the offense looked stagnant against Bronson Arroyo. The Reds right-hander was in command after allowing three runs in the second, and it took him only 95 pitches to get through his eight innings of work.
J.D. Martinez didn't look very smooth defensively, and it looks as if he really needs to work on playing the ball off the left-field wall better. If Carlos Lee can learn to judge the bounce effectively, I have plenty of faith that J.D. can as well.
While Luis Durango's debut wasn't quite as exciting as Paredes', it still wasn't too shabby. He worked the count in his first at-bat and drew a nice leadoff walk. He grounded out to the pitcher in his other two trips to the plate, but he did make a nice running catch in deep left-center early in the game.
It was fun watching this team compete tonight, and I think this influx of young talent should be very exciting. Even if you think some of the call-ups were premature, you can't argue that watching the future of our team isn't somewhat entertaining.
As Astros fans in a dire season such as this one, we must look for small things to cheer about it. Tonight it was Jose Altuve that provided the excitement, who will it be tomorrow?
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Loved Paredes's approach at the plate tonight.
On every at-bat, he was patient, and looked for his pitch.
The at-bat where he struck out had some nasty breaking balls from Nick Masset.
Great debut from Paredes, IMO.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
Loved Paredes too.
Everything you said is dead on but the one thing that stood out for me. Is how quick his hands are. Quite frankly I’ve never seen an Astros player with that quick of hands through the zone. He might end up being better then Michael Bourn with that hand speed, Hell he almost seems faster then Bourn.
Click 2 Houston sports newscaster, Randy McIlvoy, viciously criticized Ed Wade today for the Pence & Bourn trades.
He acted like a little child in my opinion, saying that all his “top experts” said the Astros were fleeced in these deals. Who were his top experts? John Heyman? Guys who aren’t even scouts?
Typical news bias that doesn’t evaluate all sides of the story. And my dad trusts him.
What a tool.
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And
The tool is alwasys making comments that are out-of-place, out-of-line or just plain stupid. The tool is always trying too hard to fit in, and because of this, never will.
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Wade is toast after this season just because of public opinion. He will be the sacrificial lamb.
Wade has done some good things and some bad. I personally think Mills should be first one disposed of.
Real experts liked the deal. Sickels even said we got decent return for Bourn. I think we could have done better. But, the Pence deal was quite good. Just how good depends on the PTBNL.
by Subber10 on Aug 1, 2011 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We got fleeced in the Braves deal.
Phillies got fleeced by us though.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Aug 1, 2011 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I dont think we got fleeced in the Bourn deal really but its waaaaaay too early to know
who really won either trade
We got lower ceiling
& same floor guys in the Bourn deal. I could see them easily being J.A. Happish and not being good MLB starters. Clemens would probably be better out of the pen IMO, with Oberholtzer being a #4 starter. Abreu would be a nice bullpen addition.
The problem is with middle of the rotation starters is that they don’t have stuff to be top of the rotation starters and are easy to replace & easy to not reach their ceiling. But with how deep our minor league system pitching talent is, we really don’t need to be fooling around with getting higher ceiling pitchers, but only 1 or two of them.
I think Ed Wade took a good course of action, but boy does that Wandy contract extension look silly. Why extend him when less than a year later you plan on trading him? If Wandy didn’t have such a mammoth contract, we could have seen more high-ceiling pitchers. But that was then & this is now. Ed Wade probably didn’t see this disaster coming last year. Oh well. Can’t complain too much.
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The nice thing about Oberholtzer
Is he has much better command than Happ, while having similar stuff. It’s too early to say for sure that he’ll be better, but I think that he will.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
I think McIlvoy has two top experts, and their qualifications include regular commenting on the chron.com astros pages and on mlbtraderumors posts.
Bourn's high BABIP was fueled by his best-in-the-majors linedrive percentage.
Did he say that?
Or did he say, well he has a high BABIP so it will go down eventually & not even say why?
CJ’s BABIP didn’t go down much from last year, mainly because CJ is a linedrive hitter, but CJ has been hitting those linedrives elsewhere, like on the ground, and not in the seats.
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Yes, dropped a little from last year
But his BABIP is still well above league average, and mainly due to his high LD%.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Hmm
I must have been looking at monthly splits.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Needs to get to CC so I can watch him on MiLB.tv
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Aug 1, 2011 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
If it wasn't for Paredes, the Astros would have probably lost.
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by BustaPozee on Aug 1, 2011 10:49 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
swagger
is it me or did Jimmy Paredes show some major confidence. im totally sold on this new team. its like spring training all over again! Lets Go ’Stros
by byrontye on Aug 1, 2011 10:51 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Spring training is an exciting time
I remember Paredes constantly being picked off. – Tone down that swagger!
And his swag was under control today. I like Paredes after seing him today. He’s got a pretty nice swing that I can see him hitting some big bombs. Plate discipline was pretty good, but I need to see some more game.
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And he reminds me exactly of robby cano.
I think paredes will hit some huge homers
Also steve berthuime called the astros the houston hooks.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 1, 2011 11:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I think he has more power potential than he has to show for this year. Pretty pretty swing.
His biggest weakness is bad plate discipline, so I will wonder how that will play out the next few days. It seems like he watches pitches out of the zone, and hammers ones in the zone, so his strike-zone judgement may be good, but this observation is coming from just one game of observing. I will need a few more days to observe.
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thats what i think it is, his dicilpine could use work but i really like his SPEED and, his awing is perty.
I think he could learn to watch tgose pitches and he watched some but not all. I think he could be a tlreally good pick up.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 1, 2011 11:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
His stance and swing are right on with cano, now if he turns out to be at least half as good as cano we might have fleeced the Yankees in the berkman trade last year. Melancon and paredes doin work
by Astro Dave88 on Aug 1, 2011 11:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
never seen the kid play
till tonite. all of em got a good vibe to them. hopefully not only will we get some pop in the lineup but some in the club house too. if were going to suck lets at least have fun while doing it.
Steaks and Protein Shakes.
put him on the Jeff Bagwell diet.
the weight room for 5 hours before and after the game!
imagine Altuve
with Bags build.
i was just saying that Bagwell was obsessed with his workout regime. look at rookie pics. lol.
Put him on the Sammy Sosa diet and he'll be great!
by Patrick Harrel on Aug 1, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you hear Bagwells interview???
He wishes he wouldnt have put all that muscle on that it actually shortened his carreer. He didnt lift like a baseball player he lifted like a body builder
For the first time in awhile I was actually really excited about watching the stros. It’s like our 2nd opening day of sorts
by Astro Dave88 on Aug 1, 2011 11:18 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Missed the end due to work/workout
Glad to see we won, even if we got lucky
NO SWEEP!!
by Its Gonna Happen on Aug 1, 2011 11:27 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
So I was reading the comments at the chronicle because I wanted some entertainment and one guy went on a rant about 4 of our starters tonight being undrafted and saying that our scouting dpt sucked lol no shit they were undrafted they were international free agents hahaha
by Astro Dave88 on Aug 1, 2011 11:27 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
What a tool
People will believe what anybody says to them, even if it’s biased or wrong.
People need to make their own assumptions about things, take in account of both viewpoints (to rebuild, or not to rebuild), the ideas of bringing up players from Double-A (Are they ready or are they not?) Stats don’t tell the whole side of the story.
My dad is biased sometimes and listens & agrees with news bias a lot. I’ve learned to be neutral about subjects until I have enough information to judge about.
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I agree, most people just don’t think for themselves or are to lazy to become knowledgeable on the subject to have a rational opinion.
“it’s better to be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt”
I like that quote
by Astro Dave88 on Aug 1, 2011 11:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
And this lack of knowledge comes into play in politics a lot, which is annoying
It’s also pretty frustrating when you know you have the right viewpoint on a subject, but everyone else is against you because they are largely un-knowledgeable, ignorant, or as you said, just too damn lazy.
And I like that quote. I think I will replace the kitty in my signature with it.
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It’s a great quote, one that I try to live by lol
Alot of it has to do to the fact the people are really narrow minded and just focus on what’s put out in front of them then react to it instead of taking a step back and look at the whole picture
by Astro Dave88 on Aug 1, 2011 11:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Lol
Anybody listen to the Matt Thomas show after the game? The callers call in and just sound so stupid, or should I say uneducated. I want to call in and tell everybody to check out TCB and read about why the Astros make the moves they make. Matt seems to get fed up with callers about 10-15 minutes into the shows. The people call in to the show so you’d think they at least listen…that apparently isn’t the case.
by Its Gonna Happen on Aug 1, 2011 11:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I called into J&R and told them that they sounded ridiculous repeating the same shit over and over
They just kept talking about Crane wanting the 60 million dollar payroll and that Hunter was an all-star OFer. I asked would he have been on the all-star team if we didnt have to at least have one Astro represented.
I actually opened up an account this morning to reply to someone who was lamenting about what our lineup COULD look like if we didn’t trade everyone away, yet their projected rotation included Oswalt AND Happ. It was too much for me to take quietly.
(Un)lucky for me, however, the site took forever to accept my comment so I decided against it. Incidentally, it inspired me to start an account here, with the hope of participating in EXPONENTIALLY better conversations.
by pancakebreakfast on Aug 1, 2011 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Almost everyone seems pretty solid around here
Been reading for a while. I’m just glad most of the posters know the difference between sarcasm and cynicism.
by pancakebreakfast on Aug 1, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
It took me a while to get used to it
When you ask Carlos Lee what his favorite place to play is, and he anwsers with the words, anywhere with a Buffet. You know theirs a real problem.
by orangeblood kid on Aug 2, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I can be serious when I want to, foolish at others, careless on the rest
I was actually a pretty active debater on debate.org for a couple months until all the debates became pointless and apathy quickly set in.
Now I can debate about topics concerning the Astros.
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Reading comments on chron.com articles is a threat to your intelligence.
by clack on Aug 2, 2011 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
agreed, the only person that you should even pay attention to is Zachery Levine
When you ask Carlos Lee what his favorite place to play is, and he anwsers with the words, anywhere with a Buffet. You know theirs a real problem.
by orangeblood kid on Aug 2, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions
how fast is this new lineup?
i kept hearing the broadcaster talk about us not having the homerun ability that we need to move to a speed game.
are we going to see more steals hit and runs and squeezes now.
is this going to be an old school NL team? if so im excited!
Bougouis in the 3 whole
kind of makes 3 lead off men and Lee a number 3 hitter with four 7 holes behind him. lol.
correct me if im wrong.
Very fast team outside of Q, Martinez, and the Fatman! Alot of guys with 30+ steal potential
by Astro Dave88 on Aug 1, 2011 11:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Martinez is as slow as Carlos Lee is in LF
His bat would have to be pretty hot or else he’d be a liability on defense & offense.
Still, I am hopeful he could be a solid major leaguer.
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I think J.D. is faster than El Caballo.
I think anyone’s faster than El Caballo though.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Aug 1, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
A comp I was thinking about earlier for JD was Billy butler. High avg, mid teens hr power, slow base runner
by Astro Dave88 on Aug 1, 2011 11:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Guess there is a new TV show. The Astros and The Fat Man
by StrosSouth on Aug 1, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Da na na na na na na na FatMan!
When you ask Carlos Lee what his favorite place to play is, and he anwsers with the words, anywhere with a Buffet. You know theirs a real problem.
by orangeblood kid on Aug 2, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
idk if this has been covered but ovando hit a 2 rbi double and didnt k.
YAAAAY
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 1, 2011 11:45 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
How do you know?
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Aug 1, 2011 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
GOOD CHEESE good cheeze
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 1, 2011 11:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He forgot Carlos isnt behind him any longer. Carlos thought those were edible which is why
Hunter tokk them to the plate
by StrosSouth on Aug 1, 2011 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Although Pence’s BABIP makes me expect some regression in his batting average, I wonder if he will become a better overall hitter in Philly. Charley Manuel is really good with hitters. He was one of the better batting coaches in baseball before he became manager.
by clack on Aug 2, 2011 7:31 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why is Wates still in Lancaster?
Think it’s time for him to be promoted to Corpus Christi.
Would free up a spot for Nash later this year when he hopefully gets promoted to Lancaster.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
Yes, he needs to move up given our depth in the OF now
And he’s not struggling in Lancaster, so what gives?
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Agreed
Would love for him to get his feet wet in CC this year and play most or the full season there next year with the hopes of maybe a start with the big league club in 2013.
by Patrick Harrel on Aug 1, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
At this rate, he'd be the starting CF'er sometime next year.
Wates profiles similarly to Bourn, except for the unbelievable speed Bourn has. He hits balls on the ground quite frequently like Bourn, and his linedrive percentage is better than Bourn’s LD% the past couple years.
Would like to see what he can do at Corpus though.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Nice win by our NEW Astros!
Good to see the kids compete and hold their own. I though the well was going to burst a few times as it seemed like the Reds always on a couple men on base through those middle innings but the Stros had the “bend-don’t-break” bullpen throwing 5 shut out innings. Loved that 2-RBI triple by Peredes to get things started. He was fast around the bases (or at least appeared so on the highlight I watched).
Like someone said up above, it is like a new season and 2nd Opening Day!
Go Astros!
Biggio and Bagwell for the HOF!
Yeah it did seem like the 2nd opening day.
Mainly because so many new faces.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
My night was made at 1158 pm. Larry Bowa on mlb network said the worst thing in baseball today was the astros beating reds, he said “you have to win those games they have players that literalky no ones ever herd of.”
Dats right!!
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 12:01 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Hes upsess with clayton kershaw
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 12:08 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Based on BB% and K%
I still say Brandon plillips is a hopeful ceiling forParedes. He could be a .750 OPSer with 30+ steals and 15-20 HRs with plus defense. There’s a lot of value in a player like that.
by Irish Pete on Aug 2, 2011 12:08 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I'm going to write a fanpost on this soon:

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Lots of teams are starting to sign their 2nd through 10th round picks.
Hopefully we see a Armstrong and Flamion signing soon.
by YohannDookeyblue on Aug 2, 2011 12:23 AM CDT reply actions
dusty baker "we couldnt get any big hits" they(astros) just hit a lot of singles.
Isnt that what we are, a singles hitting team?
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 12:33 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Doubles, singles.
Paredes says fu*k this, I’m gonna get a triple.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Someone should remind Dusty Baker that's how baseball is supposed to be played. He hit
the ball as many times as you can to get runners on and try score runs. DUH!
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
Slugging is a good thing, and something that every team should have
but personally I think one of the most important things to have in terms of offense is a team that has a .330 or better OBP or better for at least 7 of the guys in the every day lineup.
and good speed if were gonna be a singles doubles team
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 12:50 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
haha wow ed wade, he said jordan shaeffer is gonna be on the astros when he returns.
WTF ED WADE REALLY?? HE IS?
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 12:38 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Fernando Abad wasn't, he was optioned.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Maybe that quote isnt as dumb as it looks. But i thought it was funny at first. But you know, it was a no brainer that he was gonna be on the astros.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 12:48 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
sorry, I didn’t get the sarcasm before I wrote the comment below.
by clack on Aug 2, 2011 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha its alright, it wasnt as funny as i thought it was when i first read it.
But it was a no brainer move thathe wazs gonna be on the major league roster, thats why i thought what wade said was funny.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 12:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
means Bogusevic
is looking at a cup of coffee and then a trip to OKC… or we could cut JMike… but I dont see that happening. I just hope we are smart enough to let Bogusevic, Shuck, and Gobbert duke it out in spring to see which one gets to fill the J Mike role next season. Hell those guys + Bourgeois, Schafer, and I guess Durango can duke it out to see who is CF, RF, 4th OF, and 5th OF. Four spots with six guys competing for them… with maybe a low risk high reward player or two in the mix.
He was on the major league roster in Atlanta. Why wouldn’t he be on the major league roster of a team with worse players than Atlanta?
by clack on Aug 2, 2011 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Schafer is already “with” the major league team. If you watch the walk off dog pile after the game today, Schafer was one of the players excitedly embracing Altuve.
by clack on Aug 2, 2011 7:38 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just watch 2 new videos of nick williams, boy his swing is perty. Idk about his holes in his swing but he looks really good.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 1:31 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
At the moment I like Trey more
But Nick Williams is very promising as well
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
Nick has more power but he does move and pull his hips out a lot on footage I have seen but that might be because all the video is from homerun derby so he probably was trying to pull his body more
Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio were the last of a dying breed of players who would live and die for their team
i think its part of his game, in the videos i saw he was in cage doing the same thing.
How is trey williams, ive read good things about him from subber10?
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 1:54 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Give me sec see if I can find good videos
Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio were the last of a dying breed of players who would live and die for their team
Kinda crazy to be a top prospect and I find no videos for him
Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio were the last of a dying breed of players who would live and die for their team
lol its alright.
Whats his skills/projections
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 2:08 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
From what I have read he projects to have great power and is already like 6’1 and 215 pounds. The one thing I keep hearing is that his Bat speed is supposably amazing. Looking at his stats 345 AVG on 84 AB with 9 HRs and 20 RBIs and 14 K and 12 BB. With those stats at High School level I am not completely amazed. I think he is one of those Extremely high ceiling prospects that if he can develop plate discipline and not be an All or Nothing hitter then you got a great player but he is risky IMO
Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio were the last of a dying breed of players who would live and die for their team
That's why I like Trey Williams more
Williams already reportedly has a great approach at the plate and is a very advanced hitter. If Ed Wade’s front office is in charge they’ll probably take the more athletic Nick Williams, but hopefully we’ll have new management by then.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
and he only k'ed 14 times the whole year. wheres he fr
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 2:23 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
and he only k'ed 14 times the whole year. wheres he fr
From
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 2:23 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
14 Ks and 28 hits on 86 AB so
yes he made contact on 44 outs but in High School I would expect a little more and I think its his power that as enamored people and the story of getting intentionally walk with the bases loaded add to the Hoopla. I just like Nick Williams a little better. Truthfully Lance McCullers looks maybe better than both
Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio were the last of a dying breed of players who would live and die for their team
ohh 86abs, at my high school varsity regulars will get 150-200 abs a year....
Courtney hawkins is our big bat. Look him up probably anywhere 1-10th round, depends on sihlhnability. Hes going to oklahoma
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 2:37 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes I am confused by the ABs but for some reason it is only showing like 20 games courtesy of Maxpreps and that is same with Nick Williams
Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio were the last of a dying breed of players who would live and die for their team
max preps cant be trusted, but its good for samples.
Not all games are put in to schedule. I think one of coaches or district athletics employies put stats in
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 2:46 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
McCullers delivery scares me. He long arms it and gets too much rotation. He needs to raise his arm slot, shorten his arm, and get his momentum towards the plate instead of slinging a long arm around his body.
There are so many mechanical flaws in his delivery, its smooth and it works now, but I worry how it will hold up. I see tons of command issues and elbow issues down the road.
Mark Appel is much safer IMO. People keep saying he has the inverted W, but he doesnt’ The inverted W is about the location of elbow (above the shoulder with the forearm pointed downward) when the pitcher starts to bring his arm around. Appel lets his elbow drift up above the shoulder sometimes in his arm circle, but he has his hand above the elbow and elbow below the shoulder as he moves forward.
Nick hit a 477 foot bomb in that homerun derby video I posted so while yes he may be more athletic he has just as much pop. Will look up the stats to compare the two
Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio were the last of a dying breed of players who would live and die for their team
i will be waiting
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 2:34 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
From BA and they have Nick ranked 4 with Trey at 7
Nick Williams, Galveston Ball HS, La Marque, Texas
Only 16 and a member of the 2012 class, Williams is a multi-sport athlete who reportedly will focus on baseball in his last two prep years. Scouts nationwide are cheering that decision.
At 6-foot12 and 185 pounds, Williams is a freakishly talented athlete with a sculpted build. Some Jason Heyward comparisons were heard and while that may be premature, Williams can run, throw and hit. His swing hints at the possibility of huge power. If Williams learns to keep his head on the ball and front side closed consistently he will be the rare player who has no limitations.
Stats are as follows 537 AVG, 82 AB, 44 Hits, 13 HR, 15 BB and 19K
Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio were the last of a dying breed of players who would live and die for their team
wooow thats really impressive, k rate low but like orem said trey is the advanced hitter with, nick is a big risk.
I wonder if these 2 will fall in draft cause of signablility, prbly not but anyways nicks power is very impressive and i think he may have more atbats that werent counted, such as tourneys and state playoffs.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 2:44 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Kinda confused but I know stats don’t tell everything. What makes Trey more advanced with a .345 Avg and Nick having a .537. I think Nick is more athletic with more Homerun ability but Trey ceiling is that if he develops better plate approach he will have more power in the end.
Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio were the last of a dying breed of players who would live and die for their team
Don't pay too much mind to HS stats
They mean virtually nothing… scouting reports suggest Trey has a very advanced approach.
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Hopefully the Astros have sent him a big memorabilia package
An Astros jersey with his name on it would be subtle eh?
by Its Gonna Happen on Aug 2, 2011 2:51 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah what is funny is that the prospect rankings will all be different in 9 months
Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio were the last of a dying breed of players who would live and die for their team
Very true.
College players will burst onto the scene, high school players will regress, but not enough to drop to the 2nd round for us, ect. ect.
by Its Gonna Happen on Aug 2, 2011 3:00 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
cant do links on phone but if you go to his facebook he posted 2 videos about 30scnds each.
Hes good
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 1:47 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
My link is not working but copy and paste this
Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio were the last of a dying breed of players who would live and die for their team
that seems real solid from what ive heard. i like clemens alot.
Does anyone know when he starts? Keith law said he could contribute next ulyear.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 1:52 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Not sure but I know Cosart pitches tonight in Corpus should have no more
tomorrow night about Clemens and Oberholtzer
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi
Man, Corpus Christi
Cosart, Oberholtzer, Clemens, and Sosa. Talk about an upgrade to your rotation.
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it feels like were elite compared to
Aristil.
Keuchel.
Seaton.
Cedeno.
Wow, now that a think about it i really got to go see about 6 more games at least for this year. Havent been since c walls 2nd game.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 2:06 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
coolio julio. lame joke
What did paredes do tofay in his 4a.b.s l
Triple, ground out, k, and something else. Cant remember.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 2:04 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
yes, that sounds right to me. optimistic, of course, but it we are talking ceiling.
by clack on Aug 2, 2011 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
stan verret of espn said the astros need to wear "hello my name is ________" nametags. lol'd it was really funny.
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 1:49 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I think Bud needs to skip a start
to let that blister heal…
"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane
Maybe he needs to put in a call to Nolan Ryan to find about the pickle juice he soaked his fingers in to deal with the same problem.
by clack on Aug 2, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ugh, way to ruin the pickles...
by Its Gonna Happen on Aug 2, 2011 2:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I know what you’re talking about….but was that for blisters or just a ritual?
by clack on Aug 2, 2011 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i dont get it....
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 3:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Baron at chron.com had an article interviewing fans at last night’s games about the trades. It’s kind of lame that the Astros confiscated signs critical of Ed Wade. One sign was "How many prospects is Ed Wade worth?" The other was “No prospects can ever replace Bourn and Pence.” I’m not surprised they were confiscated, but I think the Astros should have a better sense of humor—after all, the two girls are fans enough to show up at the game. Baron refers to the “Astros thought police.”
by clack on Aug 2, 2011 10:37 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
…playing in a publicly funded ballparks.
Not to say that I think the Astros can’t do what they did.
by clack on Aug 2, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is Cosart staying at AA?
I don’t think it makes sense to give him a few starts at Corpus & then send him down to Lancaster.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
No hes staying at AA im pretty sure. Astris dont like to send their top pitchers to Lancaster
as the ball flies out of the park big time there. Cosart will also probably start next season in Corpus as well.
"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi

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