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Youth Movement Leads Astros To Exciting 4-3 Win

It took eight innings for the Astros to score again after the second, but it was worth the wait.

With the bases loaded and no outs, Jose Altuve's hard-hit ball to Brandon Phillips drove in the winning run in the tenth inning.

Bud Norris' night was again cut short when he exited in the sixth with a blister on his right index finger, and that now makes two consecutive starts in which Bud has left early because of this problem. He was hit pretty hard tonight allowing ten hits through his five-plus innings, and I'm beginning to worry that this could be a lingering issue. His control wasn't very sharp either, and he had to work from the stretch for most of the game.

Jimmy Paredes had quite the major league debut when he tripled home two runs in the second, but the rest of the offense looked stagnant against Bronson Arroyo. The Reds right-hander was in command after allowing three runs in the second, and it took him only 95 pitches to get through his eight innings of work.

J.D. Martinez didn't look very smooth defensively, and it looks as if he really needs to work on playing the ball off the left-field wall better. If Carlos Lee can learn to judge the bounce effectively, I have plenty of faith that J.D. can as well.

While Luis Durango's debut wasn't quite as exciting as Paredes', it still wasn't too shabby. He worked the count in his first at-bat and drew a nice leadoff walk. He grounded out to the pitcher in his other two trips to the plate, but he did make a nice running catch in deep left-center early in the game.

It was fun watching this team compete tonight, and I think this influx of young talent should be very exciting. Even if you think some of the call-ups were premature, you can't argue that watching the future of our team isn't somewhat entertaining.

As Astros fans in a dire season such as this one, we must look for small things to cheer about it. Tonight it was Jose Altuve that provided the excitement, who will it be tomorrow?

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Loved Paredes's approach at the plate tonight.

On every at-bat, he was patient, and looked for his pitch.

The at-bat where he struck out had some nasty breaking balls from Nick Masset.

Great debut from Paredes, IMO.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Aug 1, 2011 10:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Loved Paredes too.

Everything you said is dead on but the one thing that stood out for me. Is how quick his hands are. Quite frankly I’ve never seen an Astros player with that quick of hands through the zone. He might end up being better then Michael Bourn with that hand speed, Hell he almost seems faster then Bourn.

by Kyle Cotton on Aug 4, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Click 2 Houston sports newscaster, Randy McIlvoy, viciously criticized Ed Wade today for the Pence & Bourn trades.

He acted like a little child in my opinion, saying that all his “top experts” said the Astros were fleeced in these deals. Who were his top experts? John Heyman? Guys who aren’t even scouts?

Typical news bias that doesn’t evaluate all sides of the story. And my dad trusts him.

What a tool.

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by BustaPozee on Aug 1, 2011 10:43 PM CDT reply actions  

McIlvoy

McIlvoy for: Characterized by low intelligence and/or self-steem.

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by BustaPozee on Aug 1, 2011 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

And
The tool is alwasys making comments that are out-of-place, out-of-line or just plain stupid. The tool is always trying too hard to fit in, and because of this, never will.

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by BustaPozee on Aug 1, 2011 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wade is toast after this season just because of public opinion. He will be the sacrificial lamb.

Wade has done some good things and some bad. I personally think Mills should be first one disposed of.

by Nado2036 on Aug 2, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

We got fleeced in the Braves deal.

Phillies got fleeced by us though.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Aug 1, 2011 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

We got lower ceiling

& same floor guys in the Bourn deal. I could see them easily being J.A. Happish and not being good MLB starters. Clemens would probably be better out of the pen IMO, with Oberholtzer being a #4 starter. Abreu would be a nice bullpen addition.

The problem is with middle of the rotation starters is that they don’t have stuff to be top of the rotation starters and are easy to replace & easy to not reach their ceiling. But with how deep our minor league system pitching talent is, we really don’t need to be fooling around with getting higher ceiling pitchers, but only 1 or two of them.

I think Ed Wade took a good course of action, but boy does that Wandy contract extension look silly. Why extend him when less than a year later you plan on trading him? If Wandy didn’t have such a mammoth contract, we could have seen more high-ceiling pitchers. But that was then & this is now. Ed Wade probably didn’t see this disaster coming last year. Oh well. Can’t complain too much.

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by BustaPozee on Aug 1, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

The nice thing about Oberholtzer

Is he has much better command than Happ, while having similar stuff. It’s too early to say for sure that he’ll be better, but I think that he will.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Aug 1, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think McIlvoy has two top experts, and their qualifications include regular commenting on the chron.com astros pages and on mlbtraderumors posts.

by AstroAndy on Aug 1, 2011 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Justice actually mention BABIP in his blog. I was amazed he was so current.

by ntn on Aug 1, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have to give him credit for listening to someone that knows more about baseball for once.

by ntn on Aug 1, 2011 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bourn's high BABIP was fueled by his best-in-the-majors linedrive percentage.

Did he say that?

Or did he say, well he has a high BABIP so it will go down eventually & not even say why?

CJ’s BABIP didn’t go down much from last year, mainly because CJ is a linedrive hitter, but CJ has been hitting those linedrives elsewhere, like on the ground, and not in the seats.

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by BustaPozee on Aug 1, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, dropped a little from last year

But his BABIP is still well above league average, and mainly due to his high LD%.

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.

by BustaPozee on Aug 2, 2011 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

It’s .310 this year.

by MadMartygan on Aug 2, 2011 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm

I must have been looking at monthly splits.

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.

by BustaPozee on Aug 2, 2011 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Even with the linedrives

CJ’s BABIP was wildly unrealistic…

by Crzycjunx76 on Aug 2, 2011 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Needs to get to CC so I can watch him on MiLB.tv

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Aug 1, 2011 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sweet!…Thanks for posting!

by PeteyNhtown on Aug 1, 2011 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Spring training is an exciting time

I remember Paredes constantly being picked off. – Tone down that swagger!

And his swag was under control today. I like Paredes after seing him today. He’s got a pretty nice swing that I can see him hitting some big bombs. Plate discipline was pretty good, but I need to see some more game.

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by BustaPozee on Aug 1, 2011 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he has more power potential than he has to show for this year. Pretty pretty swing.

His biggest weakness is bad plate discipline, so I will wonder how that will play out the next few days. It seems like he watches pitches out of the zone, and hammers ones in the zone, so his strike-zone judgement may be good, but this observation is coming from just one game of observing. I will need a few more days to observe.

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by BustaPozee on Aug 1, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

His stance and swing are right on with cano, now if he turns out to be at least half as good as cano we might have fleeced the Yankees in the berkman trade last year. Melancon and paredes doin work

by Astro Dave88 on Aug 1, 2011 11:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

never seen the kid play

till tonite. all of em got a good vibe to them. hopefully not only will we get some pop in the lineup but some in the club house too. if were going to suck lets at least have fun while doing it.

by byrontye on Aug 1, 2011 11:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Steaks and Protein Shakes.

put him on the Jeff Bagwell diet.
the weight room for 5 hours before and after the game!

by byrontye on Aug 1, 2011 11:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Did you hear Bagwells interview???

He wishes he wouldnt have put all that muscle on that it actually shortened his carreer. He didnt lift like a baseball player he lifted like a body builder

by Nado2036 on Aug 2, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

That was always the theory back in the day. Similar in golf, probably part of the reason Tiger is struggling now—he’s too bulked up.

by jmike on Aug 2, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

For the first time in awhile I was actually really excited about watching the stros. It’s like our 2nd opening day of sorts

by Astro Dave88 on Aug 1, 2011 11:18 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Missed the end due to work/workout

Glad to see we won, even if we got lucky

NO SWEEP!!

by Its Gonna Happen on Aug 1, 2011 11:27 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

So I was reading the comments at the chronicle because I wanted some entertainment and one guy went on a rant about 4 of our starters tonight being undrafted and saying that our scouting dpt sucked lol no shit they were undrafted they were international free agents hahaha

by Astro Dave88 on Aug 1, 2011 11:27 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

What a tool

People will believe what anybody says to them, even if it’s biased or wrong.

People need to make their own assumptions about things, take in account of both viewpoints (to rebuild, or not to rebuild), the ideas of bringing up players from Double-A (Are they ready or are they not?) Stats don’t tell the whole side of the story.

My dad is biased sometimes and listens & agrees with news bias a lot. I’ve learned to be neutral about subjects until I have enough information to judge about.

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by BustaPozee on Aug 1, 2011 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree, most people just don’t think for themselves or are to lazy to become knowledgeable on the subject to have a rational opinion.

“it’s better to be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt”
I like that quote

by Astro Dave88 on Aug 1, 2011 11:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

And this lack of knowledge comes into play in politics a lot, which is annoying

It’s also pretty frustrating when you know you have the right viewpoint on a subject, but everyone else is against you because they are largely un-knowledgeable, ignorant, or as you said, just too damn lazy.

And I like that quote. I think I will replace the kitty in my signature with it.

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by BustaPozee on Aug 1, 2011 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

It’s a great quote, one that I try to live by lol
Alot of it has to do to the fact the people are really narrow minded and just focus on what’s put out in front of them then react to it instead of taking a step back and look at the whole picture

by Astro Dave88 on Aug 1, 2011 11:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Justice

That guy is the worst when it comes to writing stupid shit about baseball and makes me wonder how he even got the correspondence job at MLB. I also love how Justice and his boss’s thought they could charge people for his columns.

by LonerATO on Aug 2, 2011 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lol

Anybody listen to the Matt Thomas show after the game? The callers call in and just sound so stupid, or should I say uneducated. I want to call in and tell everybody to check out TCB and read about why the Astros make the moves they make. Matt seems to get fed up with callers about 10-15 minutes into the shows. The people call in to the show so you’d think they at least listen…that apparently isn’t the case.

by Its Gonna Happen on Aug 1, 2011 11:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I called into J&R and told them that they sounded ridiculous repeating the same shit over and over

They just kept talking about Crane wanting the 60 million dollar payroll and that Hunter was an all-star OFer. I asked would he have been on the all-star team if we didnt have to at least have one Astro represented.

by Nado2036 on Aug 2, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I actually opened up an account this morning to reply to someone who was lamenting about what our lineup COULD look like if we didn’t trade everyone away, yet their projected rotation included Oswalt AND Happ. It was too much for me to take quietly.
(Un)lucky for me, however, the site took forever to accept my comment so I decided against it. Incidentally, it inspired me to start an account here, with the hope of participating in EXPONENTIALLY better conversations.

by pancakebreakfast on Aug 1, 2011 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cat photo guy, right? Got it.

by pancakebreakfast on Aug 1, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Almost everyone seems pretty solid around here

Been reading for a while. I’m just glad most of the posters know the difference between sarcasm and cynicism.

by pancakebreakfast on Aug 1, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

It took me a while to get used to it

When you ask Carlos Lee what his favorite place to play is, and he anwsers with the words, anywhere with a Buffet. You know theirs a real problem.

by orangeblood kid on Aug 2, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can be serious when I want to, foolish at others, careless on the rest

I was actually a pretty active debater on debate.org for a couple months until all the debates became pointless and apathy quickly set in.

Now I can debate about topics concerning the Astros.

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by BustaPozee on Aug 1, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed, the only person that you should even pay attention to is Zachery Levine

When you ask Carlos Lee what his favorite place to play is, and he anwsers with the words, anywhere with a Buffet. You know theirs a real problem.

by orangeblood kid on Aug 2, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’m usually derided as clueless when I venture into our local paper’s comments section.

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Aug 2, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

how fast is this new lineup?

i kept hearing the broadcaster talk about us not having the homerun ability that we need to move to a speed game.

are we going to see more steals hit and runs and squeezes now.
is this going to be an old school NL team? if so im excited!

by byrontye on Aug 1, 2011 11:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Bougouis in the 3 whole

kind of makes 3 lead off men and Lee a number 3 hitter with four 7 holes behind him. lol.
correct me if im wrong.

by byrontye on Aug 1, 2011 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very fast team outside of Q, Martinez, and the Fatman! Alot of guys with 30+ steal potential

by Astro Dave88 on Aug 1, 2011 11:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Martinez is as slow as Carlos Lee is in LF

His bat would have to be pretty hot or else he’d be a liability on defense & offense.

Still, I am hopeful he could be a solid major leaguer.

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by BustaPozee on Aug 1, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think J.D. is faster than El Caballo.

I think anyone’s faster than El Caballo though.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Aug 1, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

A comp I was thinking about earlier for JD was Billy butler. High avg, mid teens hr power, slow base runner

by Astro Dave88 on Aug 1, 2011 11:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Da na na na na na na na FatMan!

When you ask Carlos Lee what his favorite place to play is, and he anwsers with the words, anywhere with a Buffet. You know theirs a real problem.

by orangeblood kid on Aug 2, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

How do you know?

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Aug 1, 2011 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it matters.

We know he has the power potential.

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by BustaPozee on Aug 1, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

GOOD CHEESE good cheeze

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 1, 2011 11:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well it wasn't really a doughnut

Just the cardboard piece that wraps around the bat.

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by BustaPozee on Aug 1, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

HIs OPS should go up. Helps that he’ll be in a great hitter’s park as well.

by jmike on Aug 2, 2011 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why is Wates still in Lancaster?

Think it’s time for him to be promoted to Corpus Christi.

Would free up a spot for Nash later this year when he hopefully gets promoted to Lancaster.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Aug 1, 2011 11:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes, he needs to move up given our depth in the OF now

And he’s not struggling in Lancaster, so what gives?

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by BustaPozee on Aug 1, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Would love for him to get his feet wet in CC this year and play most or the full season there next year with the hopes of maybe a start with the big league club in 2013.

by Patrick Harrel on Aug 1, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

At this rate, he'd be the starting CF'er sometime next year.

Wates profiles similarly to Bourn, except for the unbelievable speed Bourn has. He hits balls on the ground quite frequently like Bourn, and his linedrive percentage is better than Bourn’s LD% the past couple years.

Would like to see what he can do at Corpus though.

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.

by BustaPozee on Aug 2, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is there a consensus on whether Wates can handle center at MMP? I’m skeptical, but keeping an open mind.

by jmike on Aug 2, 2011 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice win by our NEW Astros!

Good to see the kids compete and hold their own. I though the well was going to burst a few times as it seemed like the Reds always on a couple men on base through those middle innings but the Stros had the “bend-don’t-break” bullpen throwing 5 shut out innings. Loved that 2-RBI triple by Peredes to get things started. He was fast around the bases (or at least appeared so on the highlight I watched).

Like someone said up above, it is like a new season and 2nd Opening Day!

Go Astros!

Biggio and Bagwell for the HOF!

by SeoulStro on Aug 2, 2011 12:00 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah it did seem like the 2nd opening day.

Mainly because so many new faces.

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.

by BustaPozee on Aug 2, 2011 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

My night was made at 1158 pm. Larry Bowa on mlb network said the worst thing in baseball today was the astros beating reds, he said “you have to win those games they have players that literalky no ones ever herd of.”

Dats right!!

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 12:01 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Hes upsess with clayton kershaw

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 12:08 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm going to write a fanpost on this soon:

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.

by BustaPozee on Aug 2, 2011 12:19 AM CDT reply actions  

dusty baker "we couldnt get any big hits" they(astros) just hit a lot of singles.

Isnt that what we are, a singles hitting team?

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 12:33 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Doubles, singles.

Paredes says fu*k this, I’m gonna get a triple.

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.

by BustaPozee on Aug 2, 2011 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Someone should remind Dusty Baker that's how baseball is supposed to be played. He hit

the ball as many times as you can to get runners on and try score runs. DUH!

"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi

by StrosSouth on Aug 2, 2011 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Slugging is a good thing, and something that every team should have

but personally I think one of the most important things to have in terms of offense is a team that has a .330 or better OBP or better for at least 7 of the guys in the every day lineup.

by Crzycjunx76 on Aug 2, 2011 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

and good speed if were gonna be a singles doubles team

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 12:50 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

haha wow ed wade, he said jordan shaeffer is gonna be on the astros when he returns.

 WTF ED WADE REALLY?? HE IS?

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 12:38 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Fernando Abad wasn't, he was optioned.

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.

by BustaPozee on Aug 2, 2011 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe that quote isnt as dumb as it looks. But i thought it was funny at first. But you know, it was a no brainer that he was gonna be on the astros.

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 12:48 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

haha its alright, it wasnt as funny as i thought it was when i first read it.

But it was a no brainer move thathe wazs gonna be on the major league roster, thats why i thought what wade said was funny.

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 12:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

means Bogusevic

is looking at a cup of coffee and then a trip to OKC… or we could cut JMike… but I dont see that happening. I just hope we are smart enough to let Bogusevic, Shuck, and Gobbert duke it out in spring to see which one gets to fill the J Mike role next season. Hell those guys + Bourgeois, Schafer, and I guess Durango can duke it out to see who is CF, RF, 4th OF, and 5th OF. Four spots with six guys competing for them… with maybe a low risk high reward player or two in the mix.

by Crzycjunx76 on Aug 2, 2011 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just watch 2 new videos of nick williams, boy his swing is perty. Idk about his holes in his swing but he looks really good.

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 1:31 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

At the moment I like Trey more

But Nick Williams is very promising as well

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Aug 2, 2011 1:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nick has more power but he does move and pull his hips out a lot on footage I have seen but that might be because all the video is from homerun derby so he probably was trying to pull his body more

Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio were the last of a dying breed of players who would live and die for their team

by Diomedes05 on Aug 2, 2011 1:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think its part of his game, in the videos i saw he was in cage doing the same thing.

How is trey williams, ive read good things about him from subber10?

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 1:54 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Give me sec see if I can find good videos

Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio were the last of a dying breed of players who would live and die for their team

by Diomedes05 on Aug 2, 2011 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kinda crazy to be a top prospect and I find no videos for him

Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio were the last of a dying breed of players who would live and die for their team

by Diomedes05 on Aug 2, 2011 2:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol its alright.

Whats his skills/projections

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 2:08 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

From what I have read he projects to have great power and is already like 6’1 and 215 pounds. The one thing I keep hearing is that his Bat speed is supposably amazing. Looking at his stats 345 AVG on 84 AB with 9 HRs and 20 RBIs and 14 K and 12 BB. With those stats at High School level I am not completely amazed. I think he is one of those Extremely high ceiling prospects that if he can develop plate discipline and not be an All or Nothing hitter then you got a great player but he is risky IMO

Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio were the last of a dying breed of players who would live and die for their team

by Diomedes05 on Aug 2, 2011 2:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's why I like Trey Williams more

Williams already reportedly has a great approach at the plate and is a very advanced hitter. If Ed Wade’s front office is in charge they’ll probably take the more athletic Nick Williams, but hopefully we’ll have new management by then.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Aug 2, 2011 2:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

and he only k'ed 14 times the whole year. wheres he fr

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 2:23 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

and he only k'ed 14 times the whole year. wheres he fr

From

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 2:23 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

14 Ks and 28 hits on 86 AB so

yes he made contact on 44 outs but in High School I would expect a little more and I think its his power that as enamored people and the story of getting intentionally walk with the bases loaded add to the Hoopla. I just like Nick Williams a little better. Truthfully Lance McCullers looks maybe better than both

Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio were the last of a dying breed of players who would live and die for their team

by Diomedes05 on Aug 2, 2011 2:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

ohh 86abs, at my high school varsity regulars will get 150-200 abs a year....

Courtney hawkins is our big bat. Look him up probably anywhere 1-10th round, depends on sihlhnability. Hes going to oklahoma

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 2:37 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yes I am confused by the ABs but for some reason it is only showing like 20 games courtesy of Maxpreps and that is same with Nick Williams

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by Diomedes05 on Aug 2, 2011 2:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

max preps cant be trusted, but its good for samples.

Not all games are put in to schedule. I think one of coaches or district athletics employies put stats in

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 2:46 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

McCullers delivery scares me. He long arms it and gets too much rotation. He needs to raise his arm slot, shorten his arm, and get his momentum towards the plate instead of slinging a long arm around his body.

There are so many mechanical flaws in his delivery, its smooth and it works now, but I worry how it will hold up. I see tons of command issues and elbow issues down the road.

Mark Appel is much safer IMO. People keep saying he has the inverted W, but he doesnt’ The inverted W is about the location of elbow (above the shoulder with the forearm pointed downward) when the pitcher starts to bring his arm around. Appel lets his elbow drift up above the shoulder sometimes in his arm circle, but he has his hand above the elbow and elbow below the shoulder as he moves forward.

by Subber10 on Aug 2, 2011 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nick hit a 477 foot bomb in that homerun derby video I posted so while yes he may be more athletic he has just as much pop. Will look up the stats to compare the two

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by Diomedes05 on Aug 2, 2011 2:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

i will be waiting

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 2:34 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

From BA and they have Nick ranked 4 with Trey at 7
Nick Williams, Galveston Ball HS, La Marque, Texas
Only 16 and a member of the 2012 class, Williams is a multi-sport athlete who reportedly will focus on baseball in his last two prep years. Scouts nationwide are cheering that decision.

At 6-foot12 and 185 pounds, Williams is a freakishly talented athlete with a sculpted build. Some Jason Heyward comparisons were heard and while that may be premature, Williams can run, throw and hit. His swing hints at the possibility of huge power. If Williams learns to keep his head on the ball and front side closed consistently he will be the rare player who has no limitations.

Stats are as follows 537 AVG, 82 AB, 44 Hits, 13 HR, 15 BB and 19K

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by Diomedes05 on Aug 2, 2011 2:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

wooow thats really impressive, k rate low but like orem said trey is the advanced hitter with, nick is a big risk.

I wonder if these 2 will fall in draft cause of signablility, prbly not but anyways nicks power is very impressive and i think he may have more atbats that werent counted, such as tourneys and state playoffs.

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 2:44 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Kinda confused but I know stats don’t tell everything. What makes Trey more advanced with a .345 Avg and Nick having a .537. I think Nick is more athletic with more Homerun ability but Trey ceiling is that if he develops better plate approach he will have more power in the end.

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by Diomedes05 on Aug 2, 2011 2:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't pay too much mind to HS stats

They mean virtually nothing… scouting reports suggest Trey has a very advanced approach.

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by OremLK on Aug 2, 2011 4:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully the Astros have sent him a big memorabilia package

An Astros jersey with his name on it would be subtle eh?

by Its Gonna Happen on Aug 2, 2011 2:51 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah what is funny is that the prospect rankings will all be different in 9 months

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by Diomedes05 on Aug 2, 2011 2:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Very true.

College players will burst onto the scene, high school players will regress, but not enough to drop to the 2nd round for us, ect. ect.

by Its Gonna Happen on Aug 2, 2011 3:00 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I like Nick Williams.

by PeteyNhtown on Aug 2, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

cant do links on phone but if you go to his facebook he posted 2 videos about 30scnds each.

Hes good

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 1:47 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

My link is not working but copy and paste this

http://www.vimeo.com/18732536

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by Diomedes05 on Aug 2, 2011 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

P.S. you have to wait til around 3:40 before the hitting

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by Diomedes05 on Aug 2, 2011 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Possible comp for Paul Clemens ceiling

Poor man’s Tim Hudson?

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by OremLK on Aug 2, 2011 1:48 AM CDT reply actions  

that seems real solid from what ive heard. i like clemens alot.

Does anyone know when he starts? Keith law said he could contribute next ulyear.

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 1:52 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not sure but I know Cosart pitches tonight in Corpus should have no more

tomorrow night about Clemens and Oberholtzer

"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi

by StrosSouth on Aug 2, 2011 2:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Man, Corpus Christi

Cosart, Oberholtzer, Clemens, and Sosa. Talk about an upgrade to your rotation.

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by OremLK on Aug 2, 2011 2:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

it feels like were elite compared to

Aristil.
Keuchel.
Seaton.
Cedeno.

Wow, now that a think about it i really got to go see about 6 more games at least for this year. Havent been since c walls 2nd game.

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 2:06 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

coolio julio. lame joke

What did paredes do tofay in his 4a.b.s l

Triple, ground out, k, and something else. Cant remember.

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 2:04 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

stan verret of espn said the astros need to wear "hello my name is ________" nametags. lol'd it was really funny.

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 1:49 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I think Bud needs to skip a start

to let that blister heal…

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Aug 2, 2011 10:09 AM CDT reply actions  

Didn’t Moises Alou have an interesting method of preventing blisters?

by MadMartygan on Aug 2, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it was for blisters, since he didn’t wear batting gloves.

by MadMartygan on Aug 2, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

In reality, I really doubt it helps. Only thing I could find said it actually softened skin.haha.

by MadMartygan on Aug 2, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

i dont get it....

If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....

am i the only one?

by ccislanders on Aug 2, 2011 3:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Is Cosart staying at AA?

I don’t think it makes sense to give him a few starts at Corpus & then send him down to Lancaster.

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.

by BustaPozee on Aug 2, 2011 5:58 PM CDT reply actions  

No hes staying at AA im pretty sure. Astris dont like to send their top pitchers to Lancaster

as the ball flies out of the park big time there. Cosart will also probably start next season in Corpus as well.

"Who's the fool, the fool or the fool who follows?" Obi Wan Kenobi

by StrosSouth on Aug 2, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

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