2012 Draft Profile: Nick Williams, OF, Ball HS (TX)

I thought it'd be fun to discuss the potential #1 overall draft picks next year, since it seems we're the front runners of this race. If the Astros keep losing, we'll be having a sure-fire 100 loss season, if not a 114 loss season if we continue the pace the Astros have been going on June & July this year. Our Pythagorean record says we've been a bit unlucky, but even knowing that, we're still hotshot candidates for the #1 pick next year. Losing isn't fun, but I'll be a happy puppy knowing that even though next year's draft isn't deep like the one this year was, there are serious candidates hovering over that #1 overall pick next year. If we get #1 overall, who are we going to pick? Are we going to pick a HS pitcher who can throw electric stuff? Are we going to pick a local boy who has 5-tools & more? Are we going to pick a 3rd baseman to fill a desperate organizational need? These are the questions many of us are wondering. But I have grown attached to one local boy from Galveston who doesn't project to be a 5-tool player, but IS a 5-tool player.
Summary
Drawing comparisons to Ken Griffey, Jr., Nick Williams is a local kid from a high school in Galveston, TX, who is currently rated the best position player prospect in the 2012 draft pool. Williams has developed into potential 5-tool player with strength in every tool he possesses. He's got excellent speed, running the 60 yard dash in 6.47 seconds, paired with a good arm, being clocked at 91mph on the mound. His bat is arguably his best tool, with scouts comparing his powerful swing to that of Darryl Strawberry's, which should allow him to hit for tons of power and high average. His bat speed is a big plus, with one scout saying it was the quickest swing he had seen during a one week period. There was concern that he couldn't hit breaking pitches well during his sophomore year, but he has rebounded in his junior season & in wood-bat tournaments by mashing everything over the wall.
From http://galvestondailynews.com/story/164194, after his sophmore year in high school:
GALVESTON — Having already hit three home runs in his first three plate appearances at the World Wood Baseball Association’s 16-and-under National Championship tournament in Marietta, Ga., Billy "Nick" Williams asked some of his teammates a question in the dugout.
"What do you think the odds are of me hitting another one?" the Ball High two-sport star asked. "We figured the odds weren’t very good, so I kind of wanted to sit out the rest of the game and finish 3-for-3 with three home runs."
In 2008, a bleacherreport.com study found the odds of a major league baseball player hitting four consecutive home runs in a single game was 0.00000791 percent.
Williams defied the odds, blasting a change-up over the right field fence in his next at-bat to finish 4-for-4 with four homers and seven RBIs.
Williams went on to go 12-for-26 with six home runs and 12 RBIs in the eight games in the wood-bat tournament.Williams started off the season hot but struggled at times in district play because teams would throw him only off-speed or breaking pitches.
In Williams’ breakout game, all four of his home runs were on off-speed pitches. The first three were on curveballs.
Needless to say, he has adjusted.
"Playing last year helped me be ready to hit a curve more," Williams said. "That was pretty much all anyone threw me in district. I had to learn how to sit back and not be so anxious."
Added Medellin: "He was geared in. It didn’t matter what pitch was thrown to him, he was hitting it out of the park. I had never seen anything like it, and a lot of scouts were saying the same thing."
In his junior season at Ball High this past year, he has hit .537, with 8 doubles, 2 triples, and 13 homers. He is currently slugging over 1000, with an OPS of 1.786. He has 14 stolen bases out of 16 attempts, and has walked 15 times while striking out only 19. He ended this past year with 102 plate appearances.
And just to show how much potential this guy has, look at this video of him hitting in the power showcase, hosted at Chase Field this past winter. You will be amazed.
Nick Williams - Texas from Martin Reinhardt on Vimeo.
Floor
I have a hard time imagining his floor as a prospect, since he is much more developed than most high school hitters. If he does struggle, it would probably be his bat that would be first to go. At worst he could be a career minor leaguer or a bench player in the majors with a lot of speed, good defense, but not good enough of a bat to start. e.g. Jason Bourgeois (last year), Brandon Barnes, etc...
Ceiling
Here comes the fun part. While some prospects are valued on what they're projected to be able to do down the road, Nick Williams has a lot of talent that he is showing already. He possesses a great eye at the plate, with quick bat speed, and ability to hit breaking pitches for homers. I think it's likely he'll be able to reach 40 homers a year with his talent. With that, I'll take a Ken Griffey, Jr. comparison.
Will the Astros pick him?
This is a tough decision since there is another year of playing time before players can be drafted. Currently Lance McCullers & Mark Appel, 2 right handed pitchers, are ranked ahead of Williams. A shortstop, Kenny Diekroeger, and a third baseman, Trey Williams, are right behind. Our system lacks starting pitching, relief pitching, and 3rd basemen. McCullers is a highschool pitcher who can throw around 98 mph, but he is a highschool pitcher, and those tend to need development before they can advance levels, and therefore is a more riskier pick. Appel is a Stanford pitcher, but his velocity isn't as high as McCullers. Diekroeger is a shortstop & we have too many of those in our system. Trey Williams is a 3rd baseman, but he didn't have as good of a year Nick Williams had.
We could always use another impact bat, so if Nick Williams has a repeat year, it would be hard to pass him up, since he is much more developed than the other bats in the draft and he has rare tools & skills that will be hard to find later in the draft, similar to those of Bryce Harper, but without all the drama.
Links
http://www.power-showcase.com/?p=581 - Information about Nick Williams during the power showcase, along with personal achievements, and kind words from his highschool baseball coach.
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I like this kid. I understand our need for pitching, but with Keuchel having his fantastic season and a young Lyles and Norris seemingly turning into what he should be I feel a bit better about that situation. However, we dont really have anyone one who could have this much impact with a bat. Sure, Springer should be pretty darn good, but I really doubt 40+ homers good. Can you imagine, Springer, Altuve, Hinze, Wallace, (catcher, not Brett) Williams, and Martinez? Wow, it would be like the Brewer’s lineup.
I wouldn’t take McCullers kid unless I knew he was going to sign for slot. He has decent mechanics but already throws at high effort and looks to be a serious injury risk. Personally, I want Appel. Mid 90’s fastball and made significant improvements in all areas this season. He’s fairly polished and would be ready quickly. I see him as a legitimate front of the rotation starter and soon. Some have been saying he has the inverted W in his delivery. Not true. He lets his elbow drift a little high at the mid point of his wind-up but its not the inverted W. It can be fixed rather easily. He’s pretty safe as pitching prospects are concerned. And, he’s a safe bet to sign.
This guy looked awesome in that video. I prefer position players in the first round (at least near the top of the first round) to pitchers. I like the Astros recent history of taking hitters in round 1. So if it’s between Williams, Appel, and the high school arm, I’d take Williams
I agree, impact bat in the first
Filled in with projectable arms after that.
Pitchers are way more of a crap shoot with the injury potential.
Weary
I know he could be good, but he has some risks. And I know this is strange, but getting a local guy for the sake of local over someone who might not be as risky is a dangerous road. We do not need a David Clyde on our hands.
Im not saying no, but need a little more on him before I can say yes to him.
I think if he has a Senior season like his Junior one, hes a #1 draft pick.
But, I think he’ll get even better. If you look at his stats his JR. season up there, they’re virtually identical to Josh Bell’s. I read one scout who said “Nick Williams is far better than Josh Bell or Bubba Starling right now” and that was a month before the draft.
So assuming he puts up even better numbers, has that powerful swing like butter, and has all those tools. Thats a #1 draft pick, local or not. BA will come around. Thistime last year Bubba Starling was like #15 on their list.
Of course, its really, really early. He could get hurt, he could regress (kind of like our 13th round? pick Billy Flamion did – get him signed – still Flamion he wasnt nealry this impressive) Were talking about legitimate present plus, plus Power now. At 16 or 17, however old he is. He could easily be comp’d to Justin Upton (Im thinking thats a more realistic comp for him -and would be perfectly fine if he turned into that and be worth #1 overall!!!) So Williams, Springer and Ovando roaming the OF in 2015? Sounds very, very good.
And in case you didnt know, I am fully onboard the Nick Williams Savior of the Houston Astros train!!!!
by YohannDookeyblue on Jul 7, 2011 1:36 AM CDT reply actions
My favorite thing about Bubba starling was
alot of scouts were skeptical if he would hit in pro ball. Really thats a guy that could be the best in the draft and you have those type of questions
Bell and him are prob similar but bell can switch hit. But who needs that if you hit better from just the left side anyway (LANCE BERKMAN)
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 7, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree that i only want him if he continues to produce he cant afford to have a down year
also to that note if you look at the way heck drafts then its easy to say he wont draft a pitcher first cause well he never has. Its been the same for every draft pos player then the pitcher. And he seems to not go after the highest profile guys at pitcher as well.
Also on McCuller i may be wrong but someone compaired him to a Lincicum type which i love because i am a huge TL fan but Heck goes after bigger type pitchers. I think almost every one of our main pitchers esp the first ones we take are all 6 foot 4. So yea just my thoughts. Love the Nick Williams comparison to Griffy Jr that i saw
Firesale! Everyone must go!
I'd take Williams, but....
I would be careful because it seems like his makeup might not be the best. In that quoted article that it was a possibility that he would pull himself from that game so he could end with a perfect 3-3 with 3 HRs. Seems like he’s more concerned about having good stats rather than playing the game. Not impressed by that. Also, in the video, when they were giving him his jersey, his button up shirt was half un-tucked and he just looked sloppy. Little things like that can tell you a lot about an individual.
And I wasnt a fan much of McCullers. On a youtube video I was watching from his All-American game at Wrigley last summer, he had zero control of his off-speed pitches due to his arm slot changing drastically from an over the top delivery for his fastball, to a distinct 3/4 delivery for his offspeed, but those never even made it close to the strike zone anyway. Good for him that he can throw his fastball hard, but that’ll only get you so far. Plus, like somebody else said, he’s a max delivery kinda guy and looks like an injury waiting to happen.
Yeah. I saw that comment. I don’t know the context if he was just joking with his teammates about it or something, but that’s terrible if he considered coming out to preserve 3-3 with 3 homers. That raises a huge red flag for me. Ted Williams kept played his final at bat of the season when he knew he was sitting on .400, that’s what I want to hear.
I think the ‘take me out’ statement was a joke… As far as his shirt being untucked – He’s 16…I just finished my student teaching, and in my experience, un-tucked shirts are not good indicators of disrespectful or problem individuals. Also, It wasn’t a problem when he had the uniform on. The homerun event was for a good cause. His coach says he is a stand-up individual.
He could be a jerk, or he could be a saint…We don’t have enough info to make judgements about his character.
personally i like a guy with a cocky attidude. The team could use someone like that to get people riled up
Firesale! Everyone must go!
by astrosfan1989 on Jul 8, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
If the produce and we win, I could care less about someones douchbagery
When you ask Carlos Lee what his favorite place to play is, and he anwsers with the words, anywhere with a Buffet. You know theirs a real problem.
by orangeblood kid on Jul 8, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
If they produce and we win I don't care about how much of a douchebag he is
When you ask Carlos Lee what his favorite place to play is, and he anwsers with the words, anywhere with a Buffet. You know theirs a real problem.
by orangeblood kid on Jul 8, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
i hope he falls on his face like matt wieters....
wasnt weiters supposed to be the next huge star, hitting 40 homers a year and driving in 120 rbis??
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
As far as the “take me out statement” I think it was probably a joke, but a funny one becuz every kid at that tourney would feel like a peice of them wanted to call it a day after 3 homers and not want to push their luck. Besides that, these showcase tourneys are a TERRIBLE place to get a feel for someones desire to win. They are constructed entirely for the purpose of seeing individual performances.
Barring a senior season meltdown, I would be 1000% in favor of drafting Williams. The 2012 astros draft should be LOADED with HS high risk high reward type picks. 2013 should lean towards HS again and then ’14 and ’15 should have a lean towards the college side. That way they load up on potential contributors all around the same time frame. With the 2013 high school guys likely arriving 3 years behind springer and 5 years behind altuve etc. Hopefully Norris and Lyles get early team friendly extensions and will be around for this as well.
by Stephenoa McCrory on Jul 8, 2011 2:14 PM CDT reply actions
The best thing is he is going into his sr season and already learned how to adjust to breaking balls
Breaking balls arnt always seen a whole lot in HS and sometimes pro ball can be the time to make that adjustment to hitting them and he has already gotten that down going into his last season. Could be a phenom by the time the draft is here
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 8, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
2013
I don’t subscribe to BA or really any sites like that.
I hope that the Stros win it all in 2012, but I’ll ask anyway.
For the hardcore prospect watchers, who are the top 5 prospects 2013 draft, if they do scouting reports that early?…Thanks
O they do reports that early wo ill tell you one of the guys who will prob be eligable by then that may sound familar
Adam Plutko. He had a great freshman season at UCLA and they seem to really set pitchers up to succeed with 2 going in the top ten of this past draft
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 10, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
*sigh* Adam Plutko
If only we’d signed him.
by Patrick Harrel on Jul 10, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions

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