Bourn deal to Braves 'Done'

saw it too

pumped…hope we get at least minor or delgado if not both!

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 8:51 AM CDT reply actions

Hell yeah. Please let us get Delgado, Vizcaino, or Pastornicky…I could even live with Hoover or Oberholtzer.

by Stupendous Man on Jul 31, 2011 8:58 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

very important that they got this deal early

now can focus on wandy/barmes/myers

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 8:52 AM CDT reply actions

I hope Wade played hardball with wren.

by ntn on Jul 31, 2011 8:52 AM CDT reply actions

on a scale of 1 to not likely

its a hell no!

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions

THIS

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions

Yeah 4 minor leaguers?

Teheran, Delgado, Vizcaino, and Minor

Lol, JK, I wonder who we get

Now we should be focused on shopping Wandy now that Bourn is out of the way. That should be it for the trade deadline.

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 8:53 AM CDT reply actions

throw in chipper jones and the fountain of youth while you're at it

by ntn on Jul 31, 2011 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions

Hope we got one of the big four

I’ll cross my fingers. Even if not, there are ways this could be a not-horrible deal (mostly involving Salcedo and/or Perez).

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 8:54 AM CDT reply actions

If it was done this fast....

I doubt it is for one of the top pitchers! And don’t be surprised to see a reliever in there.

by rjg6891 on Jul 31, 2011 8:55 AM CDT reply actions

It probably happened quickly because of the Pence negotiations, not because we got screwed (even though it’s still possible). They could have used the Brave’s Pence package as a starting point which would make things happen faster.

by ntn on Jul 31, 2011 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions

Just saw on mhy newly formed Twitter

Good job Houston.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 8:58 AM CDT reply actions

Yay!

Bye, Boras… you d**k. (Love you, Michael! Go swipe 100 bags and score 100 runs for Atlanta!)

E-5-1-50

by mike_o on Jul 31, 2011 8:58 AM CDT reply actions

The Braves can go to hell

I hope only Bourn gets hits and everyone else goes 0fer the rest of the season.

Michael finishes with 43 homers.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions

KenDavidoff Ken Davidoff
by mlbtraderumors
The #Braves will be receiving money from the #Astros in the Michael Bourn trade.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 8:58 AM CDT reply actions

classic wade

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions

It helps to have an owner willing to

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions

I need to trade a used car to Wade. He’d give me a new one and pay for the gas for year.

by ntn on Jul 31, 2011 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions

#Braves agree on deal w #Astros for Michael Bourn. Hou gets J Schafer, lhp Brett Oberholtzer, rhp Paul Clemens & rhp Juan Abreu. #trades

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 8:59 AM CDT reply actions

My first reaction was "eww"

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions

mine was

huh?

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions

Wha... ?

E-5-1-50

by mike_o on Jul 31, 2011 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions

and we added money for this return?

by clack on Jul 31, 2011 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions

Isn't Schafer on the DL...?

E-5-1-50

by mike_o on Jul 31, 2011 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions

Ew kinda

Clemens is cool, but Schafer as a centerpiece is questionable.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions

Horrible Deal!

Fire Wade now!

by rjg6891 on Jul 31, 2011 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions

Oberholtzer and Clemens are both solid pitching prospects. Shafer is trash, though.

by Stupendous Man on Jul 31, 2011 9:01 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

I just knew....

A top prospect wasn’t in it and Abreu is a reliever. I hate when I’m right!

by rjg6891 on Jul 31, 2011 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions

Clemens is a nice control guy with good strikeouts.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:02 AM CDT reply actions

None of these guys are top 100 prospects

Schafer was a top 50 guy, but he hasn’t ever shown anything to justify it and his stock is way down.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 9:02 AM CDT reply actions

So wade sucks again?

Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?

by Rocket94 on Jul 31, 2011 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions

Oberholtzer and Clemens have pretty nice stats this year at AA, but this was definitely not what I was expecting.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions

not sdure i like the schafer part

though if he turns it on he could be a steal…

would have rather gotten a diff. guy and let even schuck just play out there

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:03 AM CDT reply actions

A positive point is that Schafer was at one time considered a really good CF prospect. He also is a very good defensive CFer, better than any of the Astros’ in-house options. There is still plenty of time for Schafer to do what people thought he could do in the majors. Not saying I love putting him in the trade, but it’s not terrible, IMO.

by clack on Jul 31, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions

zacharylevine Zachary Levine
Astros trade Bourn to Braves for 4 players. Arguably 3 best hitters gone for 10 prospects if Jordan Schafer counts.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:05 AM CDT reply actions

Interesante...

Abreu could be called up immediately to fit in the bullpen
Clemens & Obelhowdoyouspellhisname are starters in AA who could be close to contributing to ML clubs, Schafer is a fill-in OF untill someone else is ready.

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 9:05 AM CDT reply actions

Right, and maybe Schafer can establish himself in Houston. He is a pretty good defender.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions

Abreu’s K rate is very good in AAA. He is 26 years old. So an older prospect.

by clack on Jul 31, 2011 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions

Going to backpedal just slightly

Clemens sounds like he might actually have some serious potential.

http://scoutingthesally.com/game-report-paul-clemens-atlanta-braves-baseball-prospect-scouting-report-video/

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 9:06 AM CDT reply actions

Oberholtzer isn’t too shabby.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions

I wrote this article

I really liked Paul Clemens and, as a Mets fan, I’m so glad he is out of our division. With that said, you guys have been had. Your team deserves better than Ed Wade.

by AyatollahTLC on Jul 31, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions

When we hire Friedman, will everyone get of our backs?

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Strong trade for the Braves; they get Bourn without giving up any top prospects. #trades

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:06 AM CDT reply actions

I can’t look at twitter of MLBTR now.

Wade’s ship has definitely sailed.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions

Buster Olney is a POS

In Ed Wade I trust.

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions

If Ed Wade told me to buy Enron Stock

I bought it without question, invested every penny I had.

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions

Braves fans....

Should be happy with this! They’re not gonna miss any of them!

by rjg6891 on Jul 31, 2011 9:07 AM CDT reply actions

craigcalcaterra Craig Calcaterra
So the Braves got the better Astros outfielder for less talent than the Phillies did? I approve of this trade.

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 9:07 AM CDT reply actions

CF Jordan Schafer, LHP Brett Oberholtzer, RHPs Juan Abreu and Paul Clemens.

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:07 AM CDT reply actions

Not happy...

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 9:07 AM CDT reply actions

zacharylevine Zachary Levine
Jordan Schafer will report to Astros big club after fractured finger heals. On DL now.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:08 AM CDT reply actions

LOLWUT?

E-5-1-50

by mike_o on Jul 31, 2011 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions

WOW thats impressive. Wade wants that number one pick, too bad he won’t the one using it.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions

We RAPED Ed Wade!

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:08 AM CDT reply actions

Then whoever "we" is

should really be in jail

by danielcp0303 on Jul 31, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions

Frank Wren.

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions

I love fans who come on other team boards just to talk shit.

Well guess what buddy?

When the braves are one and done in the playoffs, I’ll be at your =] cheering on the Giants. Won’t need to worry about rooting on Pence and Oswalt, since Atlanta is one and done.

They win like 14 divisions titles and barely get 1 title out of it.

Have fun losing in the playoffs.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Dude, just calm down. I’ve been on here for a while, and you’re the only person to bitch to me right now. Just stop it.

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions

I can’t rip your team? Apparently I’m “bitching” because you cannot take it, but you sure love to dish it.

Kick us when we are down, you fail.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions

Bart he's cool. Hes joking around

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions

wow

just wow

by danielcp0303 on Jul 31, 2011 9:09 AM CDT reply actions

I wouldn't be surprised....

if the astros get no-hit before the end of the season!

by rjg6891 on Jul 31, 2011 9:09 AM CDT reply actions

this sucks

Unless Bourn is part of a set and the other 2 3rds of that set are Carlos Lee

by ntn on Jul 31, 2011 9:09 AM CDT reply actions

Given our SP depth

I approve of this trade.

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 9:10 AM CDT reply actions

SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
less than $1 mil goes to #braves in deal. but very nice work by atlanta get CF it needed. #bourn

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:10 AM CDT reply actions

You think maybe Wade is just trying to piss Lee off by trading all the talent around him...

In turn, convincing him to waive the no-trade clause?

E-5-1-50

by mike_o on Jul 31, 2011 9:11 AM CDT reply actions

Including Schafer in the deal.....

was just stupid. Bougeois is the stop-gap CF already.

by rjg6891 on Jul 31, 2011 9:11 AM CDT reply actions

maybe they got a deal for lee

so they need him to play LF

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions

Schafer has enough value that if he plays everyday

that he can be a league average or better CF…

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions

Schafer is great defensively, but struggles at the plate. He completely changed his approach this year, turning into more of a leadoff type, but the fastball up still is his undoing. He was once a great prospect, but injuries and attitude have derailed him. As a Braves fan, I hoped he would turn it around in Atlanta, but not sure if he could. If he does, the ‘Stros have a good player. Also, Clemens and Oberholzer are very solid AA pitchers, who could each become a 3 or 4 pitcher. Ed wade should’ve gotten much more for Bourn and Pence. Our offer for Pence included Mike Minor and was much better than the Phils, but Wade went with the Phils for whatever reason. He’s toast after the season.

by bravos4life on Jul 31, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions

Really. Because he’s on the DL, the deal will have to be approved by MLB. A hurt left middle finger.

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions

Well if the OF is Lee, Bourgeois, Martinez

Wallace has to play everyday. I don’t think the FO has faith in Wallace.

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions

Schafer has a lot more upside than Bourgeois. This part of the trade doesn’t bother me.

by clack on Jul 31, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions

Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
#Astros should be pleased by return of Shafer, Oberholtzer, Clemens, Abreu. #Braves were high on all of them. #tradedeadline #MLB

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:11 AM CDT reply actions

Did he just talk to one of his Braves sources on that one!

Cause we’re not pleased by it!

by rjg6891 on Jul 31, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions

Two number four starters, a middle reliever, and fourth outfielder

That’s my initial reaction. I’m doing some homework on Oberholtzer and Clemens and their stuff isn’t bad. It’s possible they could have middle rotation potential but I’m not going that far yet. Reports of Clemens’ fastball in mid-90s are promising though.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 9:12 AM CDT reply actions

Now granted I think all four of these guys have a good chance at being ML contributors

Just don’t think they’re going to be above average in any sense.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions

I want to see scouting reports though

We actually might have gotten a steal.

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions

Roger's illegitimate son

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions

If the Pence trade was all ceiling and low floor, this trade is all floor and low ceiling. Not saying it’s not disappointing, but maybe there is ying and yang between the two trades.

by clack on Jul 31, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions

So we didtn get one of the four??

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 9:13 AM CDT reply actions

No.

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions

Fuck Wade

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions

BAN THIS NOOB

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions

Just stop. You’re the only person to bitch about me. Just stop it.

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions

Quit telling me to stop. You’re a Braves fan, GTFO if you are here to just flame our GM and not show some respect.

If I pulled these same antics in your lame fansite, you would defend your team too.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions

Dude, you’re the only one doing this. Just stop. No one else has even cared if I’m on here. I just talk from a Braves’ fan’s perspective. You’ve got a problem.

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions

actaully

you are kinda being a dick

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Looks like I’m not.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions

You’re being a dick for bringing cursing words into this. Your very emotional.

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions

ChopMaster

Hey ChopMaster you come through and Rec like 30 comments yesterday so the whole page was green. Now your over here gloating about the trade how we got screwed. We know we got screwed you dont have to add insult to injury. You need to shut your Fing mouth and take your lumps.

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions

I never said you got screwed. I’m meaning that Ed Wade screwed himself and the team by not getting any of those top 4. And what makes Wade look even dumber is that he’s giving the Braves money also just like with Pence.

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions

So saying “Ed Wade got raped”, wasn’t signifying we got screwed in the trade? lol idk man

It’s cool and over with, but that is kinda hard to believe.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions

I apologize for that, but Wade really screwed himself and the team. He’s a real deuce for not only giving away his stars, but giving the other team Cash as well. We all know Cash has a long line of brothers and is a switch pitcher.

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions

I’ve got a problem? Yeah, you damn right I do, and that would be YOU.

If I am the only one, that is fine. I’ll be the person to defend the team I have much pride in.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions

We held all the leverage and got hosed

If Wade is brought back next year i dont think I will be able to watch

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions

Juan abreu is strong right-handed relief help in AAA, Clemens was an Allstar in the level he was in and so was oberholtzer. schafer:

His page.

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:13 AM CDT reply actions

F U

If we didnt get one of the big four this was a bust. Period stop trying to sugar coat this turd

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions

I’m just giving you his page for a quick link for yall. I’m helping YOU ALL, so just stop with the FU bullshit.

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions

Yea thats exactly what he was doing. We needed/wanted Bourn and Wade played this as though he was the one who had the need. Don’t worry though, Wade will be fired for this weekend alone. New ownership, new GM, fresh start. Oberholtzer and Clemes are solid thought. Projected #3 or #4. The Braves did offer Mike Minor and a better package for Pence and we were rejected for the Phils’ bullshit offer. Ed Wade was hung up with his former team in Philly and lost sight.

by bravos4life on Jul 31, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions

So you're sure that the Braves offered Delgado/Viz and Minor for Pence?

because that’s what it would’ve taken for the Braves offer to be better than what Philly ended up giving.

i tell the truth; i lie a lot

by jonthefon on Jul 31, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions

didnt happen

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions

Exactly.

The guy’s just bitter.

i tell the truth; i lie a lot

by jonthefon on Jul 31, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions

Did Wren say this?

E-5-1-50

by mike_o on Jul 31, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions

And even if you had acquired Pence... then what?

Move Heyward to left? Put Pence in CF?

E-5-1-50

by mike_o on Jul 31, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions

Schafer’s 15-19 in SB.

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:13 AM CDT reply actions

Oberholtzer is instantly one of our top pitching prospects.

by Stupendous Man on Jul 31, 2011 9:13 AM CDT via mobile reply actions

Both Oberholtzer and Clemens are

But that isn’t saying much. They leapfrog Keuchel for sure but they’re still B- guys at best (and maybe not even that).

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions

Great deal for braves

solid for stros…they got a poor mans bourn in the deal who could turn out to be Bourn himself….2 solid starters and a soild reliever…

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:15 AM CDT reply actions

ScoutingtheSAL Mike Newman
For #Astros fans – Have had Abreu up to 98 MPH, Oberholtzer 89-91 MPH LHP T92, Clemens reportedly up to 95ish, Schafer is….. Shafer – Blah

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 9:15 AM CDT reply actions

Me likey

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions

Thanks for the quotes!

Much appreciated! Here’s what I have on the guys the Astros received. Will try to work up something for Oberholtzer sometime today.

Paul Clemens – http://scoutingthesally.com/game-report-paul-clemens-atlanta-braves-baseball-prospect-scouting-report-video/

Juan Abreu – http://scoutingthesally.com/who-is-juan-abreu-atlanta-braves/

Mike Newman
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by ScoutingTheSally on Jul 31, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions

whats up buddy...

hows everything been?

Waht is your first impression of this deal? Seems to me Clemens and Oberholtzer are guys that would sit in the back of the ATL current top 10

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions

Good Laxtonto!

I think the Astros decided to spread talent across a pretty barren system instead of focusing on 1-2 guys. I’m alright with the deal from both sides.

I think Clemens and Abreu have future big league roles and Clemens’ value has risen quite a bit.

Oberholtzer is an overrated guy IMO. bad body, okay stuff, not an impact guy.

Saw Schafer a couple of times in AAA and he’s a 4th OF type to me.

If the Astros gain 4, cost controlled players in this deal with two eventually playing roles as regulars, it’s a fine deal for them. That could definitely happen.

Mike Newman
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by ScoutingTheSally on Jul 31, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions

Mike Newman

I’m kind of amazed the #Braves got a guy like Bourn without giving up Randall Delgado. He’s quite a chip to have today. #Braves can really throw their weight around if they chose to.

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 9:16 AM CDT reply actions

so hopefully myers will be pulled from his start...

and barmes (though if he goes, i won’t mind, and if he stays i won’t mind)…and wandy too

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:16 AM CDT reply actions

I'd prefer Barmes to stay

If you watched Sanchez earlier in the year & yesterday, you’ll know why.

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions

Brewers inquired about Barmes. Wade said he is not available

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions

mlbbowman Mark Bowman
by SI_JonHeyman
Clemens has a bright future and Oberholtzer was well-respected, but #Braves filled a need w/ Bourn. First true leadoff hitter since Furcal.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:17 AM CDT reply actions

from mlbtrade rumors

Oberholtzer, 22, ranked ninth and is seen as a potential third or fourth starter in the big leagues. Clemens and Abreu both have big upside and impressive fastballs.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:17 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs

so did we get dicked? or are we just ok? or somewhere in the between

by stanman519 on Jul 31, 2011 9:18 AM CDT reply actions

In the full picture, I think we did pretty well.

I would say a Win-Win situation.

/\__/\
(=^_^=)

by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions

depends how u look at it...

im fine with the deal…guys got some solid stuff and some upside…especially if schafer turns it around

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions

I think we’re okay. Not an amazing return, but nothing to sneeze at.

by Stupendous Man on Jul 31, 2011 9:19 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Eh

I think the Braves come out on top in this deal. I’m not sure by how much yet. The main thing I don’t like is that it’s a deal based largely on high-floor, low ceiling prospects. I was so thrilled to see Wade finally get us some upside in the Pence trade, and he goes right back to the shenanigans he pulled with the Oswalt trade.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions

Yeah shenanigans is a good word for trading such a valuable commodity for low ceiling guys.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions

Steve what you thinking about Wade today?

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions

I think he needs to be replaced, like I’ve been saying for a while now.

Foregone conclusion I wanted him out, but I still think there are more incapable managers out there.

We had relatively not enough potential starters for 2012 and 2013. Now we do.

Remember, Wade turned the last year of Brad Lidge under team control, for however many WAR michael put up, a key piece in the Tejada deal and now this decent haul.

Not the best, but getting some guys with track records who are pitchers is nice.

The salary is well under the “seal”, so if Bud Norris keeps pitching well, maybe we consider locking him down for a few years pre-arbitration.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions

I just wanted one of the big for SP. I dont know how one of those guys is not automatic in the trade I guess is what I am saying.

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions

Look at Abreu’s stats this year. Holy crap. 68 Ks in 48 innings with 27 walks (not good but not terrible for walks)

I like this arm. He is 26 and should be up soon for us.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions

Bullpen guys are easier to come by in FA so when we are in last place doesnt make alot of sense to trade for them. If the two SP prospects come on in the next two years then I guess we will be ok. I dont like getting another outfielder in this deal

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions

Schafer has awesome defensive skills though. We will need it to keep the pitching together.

Bullpen guys with that many strikeouts who will only cost the major league minimum for 3 years are nice pieces to have.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions

Well not like we have a choice in the matter do we hope they all kill it

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions

We would love for this trade to be huge, but it looks rather doubtful any of these guys will be much more above average major leaguers, whereas Singleton and Cosart have a chance to be mainstays and possibly cornerstones (if we’re lucky)

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions

No question that he has potential as a late inning reliever, perhaps a closer. I don’t like to put too much value on minor league relief pitchers in a trade like this though. But, if you’re going to pick up a reliever, he looks good. He is older, though, and has to show something in the majors soon.

by clack on Jul 31, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions

gotcha

Im in the middle of driving back to houston from pittsburgh in the middle of this deadline and its driving me nuts not being able to have this site open at all times… im gonna have to be checking back sporadically for quick summaries. Think Wandy goes today? yankees?

by stanman519 on Jul 31, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions

Wouldn't be a Wade trade without a reliever!

The worst part about that is the bullpen is still terrible even with all his acquisitions.

by rjg6891 on Jul 31, 2011 9:18 AM CDT reply actions

MLBTR also says the Braves got cash too.

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:18 AM CDT reply actions

less than a million

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions

My brother is friends with one of the Braves' players

and has seen Abreu and says he is FILTHY.

by Raidas77 on Jul 31, 2011 9:20 AM CDT reply actions

Stuff wise, more impressive than any of the Big 4

by Raidas77 on Jul 31, 2011 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions

I doubt his stuff is better than Teheran/Vizcaino

Keeping in mind that almost all pitchers have better stuff in short relief than when starting. But point taken, he could be a back end of the bullpen guy, perhaps.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions

And the command...?

E-5-1-50

by mike_o on Jul 31, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions

Just sayin

I asked him who he was most impressed with and would want back from the Braves. He doesn’t know of anyone’s lists, but said Abreu had the best stuff.

by Raidas77 on Jul 31, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions

That could well be

I’m just pointing out that if Teheran or Vizcaino pitched out of the pen, they could probably throw harder than as starting pitchers

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions

rotoworld on some guys

A 22-year-old left-hander, Oberholtzer has posted a decent 3.74 ERA and 93/42 K/BB ratio in 127 2/3 innings this season at Double-A Mississippi. He projects as a No. 3 or No. 4 starter in the major leagues.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:21 AM CDT reply actions

on schafer

Schafer opened the 2009 season as the Braves’ starting center fielder, but he was exposed quickly as an unproductive hitter and then struggled to get back in the good graces of the franchise. The change of scenery may help, but it’s doubtful the 24-year-old becomes a sudden star in Houston. He’ll report to the Astros as soon as his fractured middle finger heals.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions

on clemens

Clemens, 23, was a seventh-round draft pick back in 2008. He’s posted a quality 3.73 ERA and 93/44 K/BB ratio in 108 2/3 innings this season at Double-A Mississippi, but projects as nothing more than a mid-rotation starter. Houston failed to get a top prospect in the trade.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions

zacharylevine Zachary Levine
Astros will be a man short today. Move to replace Bourn on 25-man roster will happen when team returns home Monday.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:22 AM CDT reply actions

smart

might mean moves for other major leaguers are in the works?

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions

Probably not, a team won’t hinge a trade on replacing one player for one game.

They will just be short a guy today. We can’t even watch anyways. My hope is Busta finds a stream.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions

PA_Reader Pa Reader
by SI_JonHeyman
@
@SI_JonHeyman @jaysonst This deal could negatively affect Ed Wade’s lifetime deal with #Phillies

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:22 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs

Man, Corpus Christi is the place to be!

/\__/\
(=^_^=)

by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 9:23 AM CDT reply actions

mlbbowman Mark Bowman
Schafer was worried he might get traded. He still has a bright future. Would have benefited from more time in the Minors this year.

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 9:25 AM CDT reply actions

alysonfooter Alyson Footer
Lyon to 60 day DL. Schafer/Abreu added to 40 man. Abreu optioned to OKC. Roster move to replace Bourn will be done before tomorrow’s game.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:26 AM CDT reply actions

Does that mean that we can finally get rid of Figueroa?

E-5-1-50

by mike_o on Jul 31, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions

Wade is an idiot

He makes 2 trades to teams desperate for outfielders and can’t either of the teams top prospects.
The sooner he is gone the better.

"now you chunkin' in there.."

by jano4 on Jul 31, 2011 9:27 AM CDT reply actions

best hitting and pitching prospect of phils

acc. to lot

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions

Wade did get Philly’s top two prospects, tool.

by Stupendous Man on Jul 31, 2011 9:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

He got the Phillies' top two prospects

There was absolutely nothing wrong with that deal whatsoever.

This one looks more suspect.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Durango to Houston?

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:28 AM CDT reply actions

That's what I'm thinking.

Let Schafer finish the season at OKC when his finger heals up.

E-5-1-50

by mike_o on Jul 31, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions

or schuck?

or JB

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions

JB being bourgieous there

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions

Yes bring up Schuck....

"now you chunkin' in there.."

by jano4 on Jul 31, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions

Shuck=MAJOR SUCKITUDE

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions

forgot the sarcacism button

"now you chunkin' in there.."

by jano4 on Jul 31, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions

duly noted

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions

Footer or Levine twittered that Schafer will be put on the ML roster when his finger heals.

by clack on Jul 31, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions

hmmm

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions

AstrosCounty Astros County
Breaking: #Astros acquire 1st overall pick in 2012 MLB Draft

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:29 AM CDT reply actions

maybe that is the goal all along

"now you chunkin' in there.."

by jano4 on Jul 31, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions

Whose the big prospect this year?

Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?

by Rocket94 on Jul 31, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions

don't know yet

weaker draft than the last 3… If I remember correctly it might be an OF from an ACC school…

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions

Nick Williams HS BIG BAT

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions

hometown guy

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions

I like Trey Williams

But it’s too early to say for sure yet.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions

Yeah for sure, but I seriously think the number 1 pick is always a player with all star potential, unless you’re the San Diego Padres.

We better take a top of the rotation arm or 3, 4, 5 hitter.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions

Nick Williams has that potential and more

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions

Agreed I was reading up on him a while back, but this senior year is huge.

Not many guys get talked about the year before their senior year.

That has been the case for Appel, McCullers Jr and both Williams.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions

Take your pick now that we have the #1 pick

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions

Yay, we can finally win games and it won't hurt our draft standing!

E-5-1-50

by mike_o on Jul 31, 2011 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions

Sorry... let me fix that.

win a game, period

E-5-1-50

by mike_o on Jul 31, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions

True dat!

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions

it's early

but Stanford workhorse Mark Appel is one of the favorites for the top slot right now. There’s chatter that HS righty Lance McCullers (sp?) could be the first HS guy to go number 1.

Really, really early, though. Matt Purke was a lock to go top 3 at this point last year. A lot can go wrong. A few years back, Jacob Thompson was rumored as a possible early 1st, and I think he dropped to the midrounds.

by toonsterwu on Jul 31, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions

McCullers!

First high school guy taken number 1 woooo

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions

Sickels' pre season top 20 Braves prospects

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:30 AM CDT reply actions

forgot link

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/10/21/1765857/atlanta-braves-top-20-prospects-for-2011

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions

C+,C+,C if I remember correctly

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions

Might be B- on Oberholtzer/Clemens now

…maybe.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions

Most likely

B-,C+,C+

but no real impact guys… kinda disappointed with this..

This is the inverse of the Pence deal.. less risk but not a lot of high end potential..

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions

I gather Clemens at least has a very good fastball

So there’s that. I’m probably highest on him so far out of this deal. Unless Schafer shows signs of turning things around. Schafer still has the excellent tools and is only 24, but he has really, really sucked the last couple years.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions

Clemens si probably the best mix of ceiling and

probability of reaching it out of the 4. He would have to dominate from here on out and show some consistency of on his breaking ball and CH to get into the 100 at this point.

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions

If you want to cast as good a light as you can on this trade, maybe it is a hedge to the risk in the Pence trade.

by clack on Jul 31, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions

JeffPassan Jeff Passan
I’d say I’m stunned the Astros didn’t get one potential impact piece in return for Michael Bourn, but then I remembered it’s the Astros.

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 9:30 AM CDT reply actions

and sho the hell is Passan?!

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions

He’s a hack writer for Yahoo!Sports. Pay no mind.

by Stupendous Man on Jul 31, 2011 9:38 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Yahoo sports? Insignificant quipp.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions

You had me laughing at Yahoo

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions

be careful what you say

Yahoo pretty much dominates CFB reporting and is slowly making their way into MLB. Newspapers are dead and large sites like Yahoo! are the future of reporting

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions

Well yeah, but they aren’t bigs in the MLB now. Until they are, quit trying to elbow bump all your friends through twitter by teasing the Astros for getting a pretty decent haul.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions

Hey TCB has some kind of partnership or whatever it’s called with Yahoo Sports…be careful what you say. :)

by clack on Jul 31, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions

Fair enough, I just want to give Jeff Passan a noogie.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions

I had you laughing at yahoos from Yahoo.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions

yep

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions

JeffPassan Jeff Passan
I’d say I’m stunned the Astros didn’t get one potential impact piece in return for Michael Bourn, but then I remembered it’s the Astros.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:30 AM CDT reply actions

Is Oberholtzer a top 100 guy next season?

by Stupendous Man on Jul 31, 2011 9:32 AM CDT via mobile reply actions

probably not

clemens is the better bet

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions

Ah.

by Stupendous Man on Jul 31, 2011 9:40 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Don’t think either of them have the pedigree to place in the top 100 before they hit the majors.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions

agreed. Going to be awful hard. Clemens has the better shot depending on how he finishes, but the secondary stuff isn’t smooth enough to think he’s a guy viewed as top 100. I think Clemens could be top 150 for some, perhaps. That said, I’d rank Oberholtzer slightly higher overall, probably, since he’s a bit more polished. Close, though. Clemens has the upside, Oberholtzer has the “polish”.

by toonsterwu on Jul 31, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions

from rotoworld on abreu

Abreu, 26, turned in a 2.25 ERA and 68/27 K/BB ratio in 48 innings of relief this season at Triple-A Gwinnett. He’s far from a top prospect, but the right-hander could rise quickly to Houston and may eventually become a quality big league setup man.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:33 AM CDT reply actions

I realize that everybody sees these prospects differently, and there are numerous agencies that rate prospects.

This site seems to put alot of stock in John Sickels. According to him we just stole the 21st and 23rd ranked prospects in the Braves system. Baseball America is much nicer with Oberholtzer, rating him #9, and MLB.com rates Clemens #8.
I don’t see this as a terrible deal, but I do feel very disappointed.

by kdm59 on Jul 31, 2011 9:33 AM CDT reply actions

A LOT of build up here with our players. A let down is expected.

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions

That’s why we should quit following these rumors so seriously before the trade. In the Twitter age, so much shit is thrown around that a letdown is inevitable.

by Stupendous Man on Jul 31, 2011 9:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

If Ed Wade is the GM before next season.....

I just might quit being a Astros fan! Can’t root for a team that doesn’t give me a reason to believe!!!!!!!!!!!

by rjg6891 on Jul 31, 2011 9:34 AM CDT reply actions

zacharylevine Zachary Levine
Astros had an 11.0 offensive WAR (B-R version). Bourn, Pence, Keppinger were 7.2. Rest of team 3.8.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:34 AM CDT reply actions

Stupid Zach. Hes not taking into account JD and Jose.

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions

I like Levine, he is cool.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions

I was joking there Bart

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions

Joking about what bro?

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions

nt_eagle Erik M. Teller
by AstrosCounty
@AstrosCounty @Astros290 @Astrosradio Breaking: #Astros announce new Slogan for rest of Season… “We WERE your Astros”.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:34 AM CDT reply actions

nt_eagle=major DUMBASS Hes one of those morons on the Chronicles site saying Ed

got fleeced in Pence deal. MAJOR DUMBASS

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions

Yeah I had enough and finally called out Dick Justice.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions

LMAO

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions

so pence and bourn fighting for the NL East

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:35 AM CDT reply actions

If these prospects are so lowly ranked in the Braves system, and immediately becomes top prospects here,

maybe our system is even worse than I gave it credit for.

by kdm59 on Jul 31, 2011 9:35 AM CDT reply actions

yep

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions

Our AAA team has basically been a co-ed softball team for several year. No offense to

any co-ed softball players on here.

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions

ohh yeah

probably will be in the top 5

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions

Nah

Singleton, Cosart, Springer, Villar all clearly better and most will probably find at least two out of Folty, DeShields, Wates, and Ovando they like more than any of these guys. I’d put Oberholtzer and Clemens in the back end of my top 10 probably.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions

So now use the northeastern bias model.

I wonder where they will rank us.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions

You're not being very funny with this bit.

i tell the truth; i lie a lot

by jonthefon on Jul 31, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions

i know we just had a discussion on another site

I tend to think Oberholtzer deserves to go in the top 6 or so for you guys. He’s close to ready. I’m not huge on him at all, but a close to ready arm in the upper levels? Clemens, I’d say he goes in that 10-12 range.

by toonsterwu on Jul 31, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions

If what ScoutingTheSally said is true

Clemens has significantly better stuff than Oberholtzer.

I don’t see either of them as a top 6 guy. All of them names I mentioned have much greater upside, even though they have lower floors.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions

That’s the gist, yes.

by Stupendous Man on Jul 31, 2011 9:42 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

The two pitchers could squeak into our top ten

They are definitely outside the top 5 prospects in our system.

http://www.crawfishboxes.com

by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions

So we traded Bourn for 4 pitchers

I guess they are going for quantity not quality

by danielcp0303 on Jul 31, 2011 9:37 AM CDT reply actions

Oberholtzer and Clemens are both going to be solid 3/4 starters, while Abreu could become a strong setupman/closer, and Schafer still has potential.

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:37 AM CDT reply actions

I’ll be thrilled if one of the pitchers pans out as 3/4 starter, Abreu moves to the back of the bullpen and Schafer plays defense for our pitchers.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions

Schafer does have great speed, 15-19 in SB, which is perfect for MMP. likewise, any cf that can handle MMP should be treated as a god of defense.

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions

Yep

After all, Wade did get his value out of one year of Brad Lidge.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions

Ok and you got Bourn that is a Golden Glove Winner with a hill in his outfield

One of the big 4 should have been in this trade

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions

Hey Chop, you think it would be wise to send Schafer to AAA when he comes off the DL?

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions

Likely. mlbbowman tweets schafer could benefit very well from more time in AAA. never really got it in his little time in the majors though.

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions

cool. thanks

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions

You should really put him in AAA if you guys have a solid backup CF already. Bourgeouis, I think his name is?

My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.

by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions

Actualy we are kind of thinking of Luis Durango at AAA coming up

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions

to be honest

bourn wasn’t really a great leadoff hitter until like a month in this year….great great defender and great bunter and bag stealer, but until now started to hit…schafer can replace him and hopefully if he lives up to his hype, will be the next bourn if not better

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:40 AM CDT reply actions

Damn. I think I’d have rather held on to Bourn and hoped he became a type A free agent.

by MadMartygan on Jul 31, 2011 9:42 AM CDT reply actions

naw....little risky

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions

He was gonna at least be type B. This is a pretty crappy haul.

by MadMartygan on Jul 31, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions

These guys have some pretty good upside to them

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions

Do they?

by MadMartygan on Jul 31, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions

Jordan Schafer actually lowers the value of the trade for me.

by MadMartygan on Jul 31, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

lol.. Hes still young though. The other guys do have some upside.

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions

He is only 24.

Was a top 25 and 50 prospect for two years. Not a big hitter in the minors, but amazing defense. Kinda like Bourn when we acquired him. Only had a place on the bench for steals and late inning pinch hitting.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions

hoping for Type B is worse than this return?

Don’t see it. Why is hoping for Type B worse than this? You get three upper level arms that will likely all see time in the bigs at some point. Even if their roles are, say, end of the rotation/long man (could see Oberholtzer like that), with Clemens/Abreu in the pen, that’s a better gamble. Sure, you COULD perhaps get lucky, but the chances are still high that your Type B return isn’t going to make it up.

by toonsterwu on Jul 31, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions

Yeah only 1 pick for Type B guys anyways.

If our team was on the cusp of contending, then you keep Bourn for his production and net the pick.

Trading him was smarter.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions

Elias doesnt really care for SB numbers so that drops Speed down a bit

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions

The Braves should really resign him next season.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:43 AM CDT reply actions

Good luck with him having Boras

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions

I hope Boras puts the screws to the Braves and looks for 10-15 mill a year

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions

Chipper Jones just might retire after this year, freeing up over $30 million. Derek Lowe would likely be the first pitcher to leave, which would free up over $10 million for next year. Might.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions

I think Lowe makes more and he will probably stay through his contract.

Chipper might retire, but he wants a shot at 500 homers I’m betting.

Don’t count on either retiring out of their contracts.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions

I do love how you hold back your feelings Nado

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions

I hate the Braves

They are building another team that is going to be just like the one from the 90’s

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions

He is arbitration eligible for the last time next year.

I seriously doubt he signs this offseason since he has gone year to year all the way to his final team controlled year.

Not a Boras move at all, unless he feels like capturing Michael at his highest with a .300 BA and increased walks and possible gold glove.

Get the checkbook ready in that event. Could ask for 10 million a year to eat up his free agent years.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions

JeffPassan Jeff Passan
Something to consider: Tack on Michael Bourn’s SB to his total bases and SLG jumps from .403 to .494. With CS, OBP goes from .363 to .349.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:44 AM CDT reply actions

@SI_JonHeyman
Jon Heyman if #yankees land bell, theyll have greatest set-up combo ever: robertson, soriano and bell (w/joba on shelf). #padres

I guess he doesn’t know of O’Ventbrel!

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:44 AM CDT reply actions

who? Kimbrel and who?

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions

Johnny Venters is sick.

by MadMartygan on Jul 31, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions

THIS GUY

I saw him at a game and he is nasty.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions

Jonny doesn’t get the recognition he deserves, and the Jon Heyman tweet is a prime example. Jonny leads MLB relievers in appearances and likely will by the end of the season.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions

Yeah Heyman just had his head placed permanently up the behinds of the Yankees.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions

All those writers (Heyman, Rosenthal) have their heads up the asses of the teams who buy their championship, not earn it through home-grown prospects(Yankees, Phillies, maybe Red Sox). The Phils are the best team in baseball. Why do they need to make more deals, and go after the same guys we are?

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions

agreed

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions

Eric O’Flaherty leads MLB Relievers in ERA (0.92), Jonny Venters is well, Jonny Venters, and Craig Kimbrel has the best stuff of any closer and has 2nd most saves (31) in MLB, 2nd to Brian Wilson.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions

Apparently Heyman doesn’t remember Lidge→Dotel→Wagner.

by Guydude on Jul 31, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions

Heyman only remembers being corporately gang banged.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions

Nasty...

E-5-1-50

by mike_o on Jul 31, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

i tell the truth; i lie a lot

by jonthefon on Jul 31, 2011 9:48 AM CDT reply actions

are you angry?

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions

I am enamoured with getting high-ceiling guys as returns for pretty good players, yes...

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by jonthefon on Jul 31, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions

so why are you mad then?

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions

Because the return is pretty shitty in terms of upside.

This is the Oswalt deal all over again.

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by jonthefon on Jul 31, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions

You obviously have no CLUE about Jonathon Villar then. He is a 20 year old kid

in AA playing against guys 23-24 and holding his own. He has the ability to become the best SS this franchise has ever seen.

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions

Let's not kid ourselves.

Right now, his ceiling is a decent everyday shortstop but hardly a superstar. J.A. Happ was nothing more than a #4, #3 at best starter and that’s exactly what he’s been. I guess Gose was a nice pickup in hindsight, but of course even that part has been a little iffy.

Summing up, it’s an underwhelming return for what was a pretty high-quality pitcher with an additional year of control, and even with his caveats.

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by jonthefon on Jul 31, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions

I never said superstar buddy. Hes old and injury prone. In fact hes on the DL AGAIN

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions

Oswalt when he was dealt, was not considered to be injury-prone

and was not old enough for his age to be a serious concern.

To get that kind of low-ceiling return for a #2, borderline ace pitcher with one and a half years left on his contract, was pretty uncool.

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by jonthefon on Jul 31, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions

Oswalt was ALWAYS injured. Remember his back issues?

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions

The back issues that allowed him to start at least 30 games a year up until his trade, yeah...

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by jonthefon on Jul 31, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions

We had zero leverage in the deal since Oswalt wanting out leaked to the media.

Also, his contract is pretty unfavorable for a guy on the DL with back issues.
Phillie knows all too well about unfavorable contracts though. 3 years from now, its going to start getting ugly in Philly.

OSWALT IS ON THE DL.

Great deal for Houston. Had we kept Gose, well it would be a steal of a trade for Houston.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions

No, the Astros still had leverage

because they weren’t under any kind of pressure to deal him, with years still left on his contract.

At the time, it would have been no problem to take on a contract like that if one could expect to get a great pitcher, which Oswalt was when he was dealt.

Villar, Happ, Wallace. All of them average major leaguers at best. That’s not rejuvenating at all.

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by jonthefon on Jul 31, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions

Oswalt pretty much pouted his way out of town. If any leverage, there was barely any.

Just because we have an expensive contract on the books for next year, doesn’t mean that is the most attractive for a team sinking. That makes you lose leverage.

Just because we trade Gose for Wallace, doesn’t mean we acquired Wallace from Philly. We received two pretty high ceiling guys. Way too early to grade out Villar that way.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Yeah, I guess it's weird to try and evaluate a trade

where one piece is immediately flipped elsewhere for another piece which turns out to be less useful.

I’m probably acting over-emotional about it because I loved Oswalt like everyone else and wanted get a really nice return – because when a team needs to fully rebuild they ought to preach upside in prospects rather than just a bunch of solid-average types.

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by jonthefon on Jul 31, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions

Hopefully Friedman can develop better trading partners than Wade has.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions

If the hiring actually happens

Fans really need to be patient with Friedman, give him three years at least. There’s a long way to go.

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by jonthefon on Jul 31, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions

I’m very patient and he has three years in my mind. Hopefully we can give him some top picks in the next few drafts. Get our Longoria and Price.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions

Yep.

Bottoming out completely is the best way to do the rebuilding thing…of course, as long as attendance doesn’t just completely stop.

i tell the truth; i lie a lot

by jonthefon on Jul 31, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions

Oh it will, but I’ll be there my 10 games a season I go lol

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions

Worse than the Oswalt deal IMO

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by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions

I think everyone got their hopes WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY up on getting

a GIANT return for Bourn so everyone is understandably upset. Now if Wade cant get a REALLY good return for WAndy then I will pissed.

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions

See the Ubaldo trade?

Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?

by Rocket94 on Jul 31, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions

Indians got screwed big time

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

No kidding.. no way they should have gave up Pomeranz

Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?

by Rocket94 on Jul 31, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions

Something small market teams have to do. They banked on Ubaldo’s team friendly contract and their inability to lure highly touted players like him to Cleveland.

Sadly smaller market teams usually have to pay slightly more to get All Star talent on their team, without home growing it.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions

Pomeranz looked like he was going to be a home grown one

Guess they just really needed or wanted to win now rather give that kid a try…

Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?

by Rocket94 on Jul 31, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions

Definitely, ace potential in my mind. I guess I understand it, but only because of the team friendly deal Ubaldo is under.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions

Yeah but the Rockies are not that far out and trading there ACE???

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions

True, but they got a such a haul for someone who has been falling off some.

You have trade stocks while they are still high and their breakout performances are still fresh in peoples minds.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions

The other pitcher was already pitching well in the bigs

Something is up with Ubaldo mark my words

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions

I wasn't expecting a giant return

But I was hoping for at least half of what we got in the Pence deal, and I don’t think this is half.

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by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions

GMs just dont value speedy defense based CFers like they dont run

producers like Pence and even then Pence is not a superstar

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions

I agree, but don’t expect Wandy to net anyone better than anyone we netted in this deal.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions

I think we can expect something just slightly better but not by much.

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions

Outside look on Wandy is not favorable

His numbers at Home and Away are great enough that I dont think we can get anything for him. He is valuable to us but not to anyone else with that contract. I hope Wade is gone before contract negotiations next year

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions

Does anyone know how much money Wade is sending the Braves?

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:50 AM CDT reply actions

1 million or less

Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?

by Rocket94 on Jul 31, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions

Anybody know how to watch the game today??

by danielcp0303 on Jul 31, 2011 9:50 AM CDT reply actions

www.myp2pforum.eu

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions

Footer just tweeted Bourn has a great arm. what? its good but it aint great

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:51 AM CDT reply actions

neither is Jordan Schafer’s. He makes very “off” throws to second base to try to double up a pitcher on the basepaths although the pitcher is halfway down the line, therfore allowing said pitcher to easily get back to 2nd.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions

richardjustice Richard Justice
Who is the one minor leaguer the Astros could call up and create the most immediate buzz? Anyone?

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 9:51 AM CDT reply actions

They already did...

Martinez.

E-5-1-50

by mike_o on Jul 31, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions

Henry Sosa

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions

Is he ready?

Love to see him pitch

Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?

by Rocket94 on Jul 31, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions

Maybe in Sept. although after his two starts here in CC he kinda looks like it

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions

With Lyles getting shutdown soon

hopefully we see a move like this

Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?

by Rocket94 on Jul 31, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions

Nelson Figueroa

Oh you mean positive buzz?

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions

Juan Abreu. He’s the only one that would be a reasonable callup.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions

Yeah, but he is a reliever

Unless he is on the Craig Kimbrel level, he will not create much buzz

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions

Dallas Keuchel (Do the Astros dare call him up?)

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions

Hes nowhere near close yet

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions

Ya shure?

What does he need to work on?

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions

Yes Im sure. His control is so so and needs to polish up his pitches a bit. not much just a bit.

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions

AstrosCounty Astros County
Of the nine Astros in the starting lineup on Opening Day 2010, only Carlos Lee is still with the ML team.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 9:55 AM CDT reply actions

and he's the last that is leaving this winter

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions

I bet they keep him, until the deadline next year. That is only if he is producing too and we eat a significant chunk of the 7-9 million he will be owed at the deadline next year.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions

Wow

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions

Next year I think we will have an interesting potential starting rotation but

I dont know how we are going to score runs. With Wallace not even being played right now and Martinez, Altuve will probably be on a learning curve next year. I think we are going to avg less runs scored than this year

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 9:59 AM CDT reply actions

Per Rosenthal:

Source: #Astros will move Wandy only if they get impact prospects. Would need to pay chunk of nearly $40M due. #tradedeadline #MLB

by rjg6891 on Jul 31, 2011 9:59 AM CDT reply actions

Translation:

He ain’t going anywhere!!!!!!!!

by rjg6891 on Jul 31, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions

he will go

but no impact prospect

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions

As a Braves fan, this better not be all we do, no disrespect. We badly need a right-handed reliever, although it will likely stand as newly-called up Anthony Varvaro or Arodys Vizcaino from AAA.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 9:59 AM CDT reply actions

You know, there's a Braves website on SBN which might cater to your needs...

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by jonthefon on Jul 31, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

ha ha ha ha

Chop wants sympathy with there greedy little gnome of a GM

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions

I can’t.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions

There tired of you shit too

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions

Why do you care abou them?

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions

Hes not trolling Nado. Hes cool

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions

I know but he is trying to get sympathy and he aint getting it here

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions

No I’m not. How was I trying to get sympathy.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions

I doubt hes looking for sympathy. Everybody on here is just pissed right now

and needs to chill out.

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions

Nado relax hes cool. jonthefon is the one you might wanna talk to . he seems to be more

a possible troll from the Rangers blog if you look at his posting history.

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions

Did you get banned there?

by Patrick Harrel on Jul 31, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions

since you asked, yes. multiple yes.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions

What happened?

by Patrick Harrel on Jul 31, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions

too much. there were some bull**** posts at the good phight about their hatred of the braves with no base or backup, and that invited some Braves’ members who talked about “lack of class”, and the Talking Chop moderator banned me for making her look bad for having unbanned me, and for making TC look “classless”.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions

Thats funny coming from you jonthefon since you post a hell of a lot more on the Rangers

blog than you do here. You also seem to be the type of person that is on that blog. Very angry.

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions

I keep my Rangers posting on LSB.

And my Astros posting over here. You mad?

i tell the truth; i lie a lot

by jonthefon on Jul 31, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions

No but you seem to be the kind of douchebags that are over on that blog. Bunch of

jackasses over there.

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions

You're entitled to your opinion on LSB posters.

But what have I done here, outside of express my displeasure over the trade, and disagree with your opinions?

i tell the truth; i lie a lot

by jonthefon on Jul 31, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions

jonethon has been commenting at TCB for a long while.

by clack on Jul 31, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions

first time Ive seen him over here

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions

Well I assure you

that I’ve posted sporadically over here throughout the past couple of years, and a little more regularly back in 2007 and 2008.

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by jonthefon on Jul 31, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions

This is the first time ive seen him on here

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions

Irony!!!

The Braves are now looking at getting back 2010 allstar Omar Infante from Marlins. ?

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 10:03 AM CDT reply actions

If Wandy is traded to a team he will have to be more than just a rental.

What teams would Wandy be a good fit for? Boston?

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 10:06 AM CDT reply actions

i think 1 of wandy or myers goes to boston

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions

That would be like Intercontininetal airport for Myers

by Nado2036 on Jul 31, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions

Doubt the Redsox get or want Myers

Opposing hitters will be hitting one over the green monster every inning.

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions

The bright side of Schafer

He has similar peripherals to Bourn’s, steals bases almost as well, and plays almost as good of defense. The biggest reason he has sucked this year while Bourn has been excellent is that Schafer’s BABIP is much lower. However, Schafer’s line drive rate is pretty high (almost 23%) and he’s a speedy guy, so it’s possible that BABIP could go up a few ticks and make his numbers more respectable.

Schafer used to be thought of as a guy who could hit for both average and power. He has done neither in the past couple of seasons. He’s only 24 so he still has a bit of time to turn things around, but it needs to happen soon and his struggles have made him look like a fourth outfielder.

Of course, let’s not forget that Bourn’s first year in Houston was similarly bad.

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by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 10:11 AM CDT reply actions

Hey we will take a defensive minded CF with speed and defensive ability.

I’m thrilled with what one year of Brad Lidge can do for the team 4 or 5 years later.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions

I remember when we got Bourn and everyone was down on him bc he couldnt hit for crap.

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions

as I’ve said before, I’m fine with Schafer in this trade. A good defensive CFer can keep his job and post a credible WAR with a pretty low offensive level. And I’m usually OK with taking a chance that a former highly rated prospect in the 24/25 age range will “get it” at the ML level at some point. I don’t think Schafer is a “center piece” to the trade. But I don’t think this trade has much of a center piece. It’s just an attempt to get some quantity at the upper levels of our farm system.

by clack on Jul 31, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions

If it was just Schafer and Delgado

Or even Schafer, Hoover, and Simmons or Bethancourt, I would be much happier with this trade. I wish we had at very least gotten multiple strong B- prospects/ones with upside. The one one who might, maybe fit that description is Clemens, and I’d be more inclined to put him in the middle range of B-.

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by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions

agreed.

by clack on Jul 31, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions

It may also deliver some quality as well as the quantity

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions

Bourn

The only thing il say is that we’ve been saying for weeks the negative for trading bourn is that we won’t get fair value because he’s not good in the sexy stats and people don’t realize how good he actually is. In the end it’s not a bad trade just not one that will blow you away

by Astro Dave88 on Jul 31, 2011 10:11 AM CDT via mobile reply actions

Exactly what Ive been saying. I even got caught up in the hoopla of BIG prsopects. Everyone

needs to calm down. Feel like at the Chronicle site.

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions

There's the key word: "prospect."

Very few guys in MiLB are guarantee/can’t-miss guys.

E-5-1-50

by mike_o on Jul 31, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions

I would be worried about baseball

if executives who actually do the trading just looked at “sexy stats”. They’ll have scouts and numbers guys looking carefully at every guy they trade for.

i tell the truth; i lie a lot

by jonthefon on Jul 31, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions

Just to give it from a Braves perspective.

Bourn is now our leadoff hitter and starting centerfielder. He replaces the voids put there by Jordan Schafer and Nate McLouth. Neither were reliable hitters, but McLouth was statistically better. The Braves are very grateful for this trade, and we’re sure that the prospects the Astros have received will make a great impact in the minors and in the majors in the future.

From Frank Wren.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions

by ChopMaster on Jul 31, 2011 10:14 AM CDT reply actions

With Clemens and Olberholzer, the Astros need to improve a lot on defense. They appear to be control, pitch-to-contact type pitchers. So, the defense behind them will affect how they perform more than usual. I was impressed with that Sally scouting report on Clemens which was posted earlier. It makes me hopeful that Clemens may be the kind of pitcher who pitches better than his ranking. The Braves’ system is so deep in pitching that a pitcher like Clemens may get overlooked by scouts.

by clack on Jul 31, 2011 10:14 AM CDT reply actions

And pitching in their system may be undervalued due to the big 4.

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions

I agree Clemens could be undervalued

Unfortunately, coming to the Astros’ system he is likely to continue to be undervalued unless/until he proves himself. Maybe he could be a middle rotation starter. He certainly has more than enough fastball for that, but it sounds like his secondary pitches need work.

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by OremLK on Jul 31, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions

Astros need to trade for new writers too

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 10:20 AM CDT reply actions

is this the free game of the day for mlbtv?

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions

WE arent that lucky Im sure.

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions

with our team

It should always be the free game

Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?

by Rocket94 on Jul 31, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions

No shit lol

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions

YES IT IS!!!!!!!!

And no blackout restrictions!!!!

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions

Newsflash: BUSTA IS NOT JOKING THIS TIME!!! IT IS MLB FREE GAME!!!!

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions

Sweet

cant wait to watch JD

Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?

by Rocket94 on Jul 31, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions

Whats the link?

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions

MLB.COM

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions

But does the free game work if you are in the Astros’ area?

by clack on Jul 31, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions

I think there is no blackout since the game isnt being aired on tv in Houston

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions

Lets Hope So

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions

I have mlb tv on my ps3

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions

Me too

I just have the app, not the subscription though. I wonder if I can get the free game of the day….

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions

I don’t know dude usually it does work from what I hear. I’ll try if I have to

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions

Look for a stream buddy

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions

zacharylevine Zachary Levine
Astros lineup: Altuve 2B, Barmes SS, Bourgeois CF, Lee 1B, Michaels RF, Martinez LF, Johnson 3B, Corporan C, Myers P

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 10:20 AM CDT reply actions

Jose leading off?

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions

Yes

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions

It's fine, for now.

I really hate seeing Bourgeois in the 3-hole, but nobody else makes sense there right now.

E-5-1-50

by mike_o on Jul 31, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions

with that lineup i would have liked to see

JB, Barmes, Altuve, Lee, JD, Johnson, Michael, Corporan

though JB been sick hitting 3

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions

Houston v Milwauke is free MLB game of the day

And no blackout restrictions.

I just hope you don’t have to enter in credit card info… just because they’d do something like that.

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 10:25 AM CDT reply actions

No doubt

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions

I dont think so. You just may have to create a free account first

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions

account created

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions

here we go

Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Source: #Yankees trying for #Astros’ Wandy Rodriguez. #tradedeadline #MLB

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 10:33 AM CDT reply actions

was on the MLBN right now...

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions

what he say?

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions

same exact thing

which is pretty much nothing

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions

lol

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions

jaysonst Jayson Stark
#Cardinals deal for Rafael Furcal now complete. #Dodgers will get if-of Alex Castellanos. #trades

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:34 AM CDT reply actions

jaysonst Jayson Stark
Sources familiar w Ubaldo trade keep cautioning us not to say it’s “done.” That physical today is still a big deal. #trades

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:35 AM CDT reply actions

Uh oh

Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?

by Rocket94 on Jul 31, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions

Ubaldo no worko?

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions

el broko?

Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?

by Rocket94 on Jul 31, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions

could help stros

with wandy myers available

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions

zacharylevine Zachary Levine
Michael Bourn traded to Atlanta, with stats on 4 prospects and pseudo-prospects acquired. blog.chron.com/ultimateastros…
36 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 10:41 AM CDT reply actions

Justice is an idiot on TV

as well in print… MLBN has shown me this…

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 10:41 AM CDT reply actions

Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
#Astros would have kick in big $$ to get #Yankees to bite on Wandy and no sense from Yankee side they r anywhere near deal

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 10:43 AM CDT reply actions

LOL

Yeah, sure… we’ll send money to the team with the $180+ million payroll.

E-5-1-50

by mike_o on Jul 31, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions

That is pretty much the only way he gwets dealt anywhere...

be prepared to send it to any team, including NYY

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions

Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
Asked earlier in week if Wandy – LH with good curve – would be good piece to face #Redsox, put Hughes/Nova at T-A as depth and (cont)

Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
multiple #Yankees officials sounded unethused. But, again, a lot of misdirection and you never knows at this time of year

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 10:44 AM CDT reply actions

This is definitely worse than even I would have predicted.

Though the total package we got back for Pence (really good) and Bourn (pretty disappointing) combined is roughly what I was hoping for. Maybe these Braves guys will turn out to be better than I think.

by auclairkeithbc on Jul 31, 2011 10:46 AM CDT reply actions

Any news on the mlb tv?

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 31, 2011 10:49 AM CDT reply actions

not really

will keep you updated if they say anything worthwhile

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions

Think Im in lover with Footer. lol

alysonfooter profile

alysonfooter If Tom Berenger was our catcher that would be great from a drool factor RT @Swestfall More and more like the movie Major League everyday.

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:54 AM CDT reply actions

She really does like baseball.. too bad my gf doesnt

by StrosSouth on Jul 31, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions

HAHA yeah I'm beginning to think that Drayton has been a cover this whole time.

Rachel Phelps is our real owner!

by Astrosws20 on Jul 31, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions

jcrasnick Jerry Crasnick
Talked to scout who thinks #Astros did ‘OK’ in Bourn deal. He called Oberholzer a ‘Randy Wolf type’ & Clemens a ‘strong-armed kid.’ #braves

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 11:00 AM CDT reply actions

jcrasnick Jerry Crasnick
Lots of baseball people puzzled, though, that Ed Wade didn’t get a prospect closer to majors in Pence deal. #Astros #Braves #trades

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 11:01 AM CDT reply actions

SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
#astros look good for 2017

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 11:05 AM CDT reply actions

that ain't cool man...

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions

Heyman can go eat frozen donkey shitz.

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions

MLBN just left a teaser about the NYY being in serious talks for Wandy

tell you guys more whne it coems up

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 11:08 AM CDT reply actions

SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
#yankees dont llike wandy’s contract, or necessarily his pitching. but they know they need to do something. #tradedeadline

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 11:10 AM CDT reply actions

Jon Heyman
#yankees dont llike wandy’s contract, or necessarily his pitching. but they know they need to do something

by Astrofan on Jul 31, 2011 11:10 AM CDT reply actions

Yeah he really sucks. And its amazing to me that the Yankees can dish out $180MM contracts but then don’t like Wandys contracts

by Astrofan on Jul 31, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions

why...

every team sets a payroll and believe in value.. Not their fault that Wade gave a crappy deal that is backloaded…

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"

by laxtonto on Jul 31, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions

so which thread is the new thread for all the talk?

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 11:11 AM CDT reply actions

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Astros would have to eat huge chunk of Wandy Rodriguez contract to make a deal with the Yankees. #trades

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 11:12 AM CDT reply actions

I don’t think I can handle anymore trades concocted by Ed Wade

by Astrofan on Jul 31, 2011 11:12 AM CDT reply actions

Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
#Astros r surprised by little Wandy interest. 1 team that called said, "we have no indication they’re willing to include a lot of $$"

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 11:14 AM CDT reply actions

This just in!!!

We just picked up someone from the California Penal League

by Astrosws20 on Jul 31, 2011 11:16 AM CDT reply actions

His Wins Above Replacement (WAR) isn’t a number, It’s WINNING.

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions

by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions

And someone from the Giants

by Astrosws20 on Jul 31, 2011 11:16 AM CDT reply actions

jonmorosi Jon Morosi
Source: #Astros and #Yankees discussed Wandy Rodriguez as recently as this morning

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 11:21 AM CDT reply actions

Also breaking news!!!

Tim Wakefield has nightmares of Aaron Boone

by Astrosws20 on Jul 31, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions

alysonfooter Alyson Footer
Astros call up OF Luis Durango from OKC. He’ll be in Houston tomorrow.

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by BustaPozee on Jul 31, 2011 11:24 AM CDT reply actions

alysonfooter Alyson Footer
Astros call up OF Luis Durango from OKC. He’ll be in Houston tomorrow.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 11:24 AM CDT reply actions

goin to the other thread for the deadline thread...

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 31, 2011 11:25 AM CDT reply actions

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