Keppinger traded to SF
by StrosSouth on Jul 19, 2011 5:20 PM CDT
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Jeff Keppinger has been traded to the San Francisco Giants for right handed pitchers Henry Sosa and Jason Stoffel. Angel Sanchez to start tonight at 2nd in place of Jeff Keppinger. Altuve is due into Houston sometime later this evening. It's finally happened and the Mighty Mouse will be making his pro debut soon for the Astros. It only took our front office long enough to promote one of the two best hitters in its system to big league club.
alysonfooter The Astros traded Jeff Keppinger to the Giants for RHPs Henry Sosa and Jason Stoffel. Jose Altuve called up. And away we go...
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You beat me by 2 minutes
and I’m a terrible writer, so it’s probably for the best
You saw that I was 2 minutes late?
Or that I’m a terrible writer? Because that hurts lol
by danielcp0303 on Jul 19, 2011 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Ed Wade strikes again
Astros get back a AAA control-challenged starter and a AA reliever.
by Raidas77 on Jul 19, 2011 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Trading a utility IF for two pitchers
is not a bad thing.
You really think Keppinger was going to bring back a A prospect?
by Neil Leininger on Jul 19, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Not an A prospect but a B- one.. yeah.
I wish Wade wouldve held out more. He LOVES his freaking Relief Pitchers and it really does nothing to help this crappy team.
Shitty trade Wade. Shitty trade.
by YohannDookeyblue on Jul 19, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
It may be a shitty trade
but it clears the way for Altuve which is a plus.
by Neil Leininger on Jul 19, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Sickels had Stoffel as a B- guy.
and a Top 10, Giants prospect.
by Neil Leininger on Jul 19, 2011 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
You are correct
Stoffel was in his others to know list for 2011 as was Sosa.
by Neil Leininger on Jul 19, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
thats good to kno
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking something a bit better than this tho
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
If they send Sosa to Hooten at AAA he could very well be a steal if Hooten can help him
get control over his stuff.
Not a huge haul, but then again there is no need to get hopes to high or Kep
Love to see if Altuve can be an everyday player at this level…
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
I wouldnt expect much to start off with. Im sur ehe'll struggle just like most guys who get called
up at his age.But then again he could take off and never look back.
yea but you still never kno. Maybe he can do it
I was kkinda hoping he woudl start next year at ML and get the Rookie of the year but o well
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Indians got CARLOS SANTANA for Casey Blake from LA
I should expect a high upside pitcher or position player for a player very similar (better) than Blake form a GM that isnt an idiot.
Jesus…
by YohannDookeyblue on Jul 19, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Ed Wade sucks we already knew that
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Saw that and my first thought is...WTF
Did we really just trade one of our more valuable trade pieces for a long shot (Stoffel) and a never will be (Sosa)?
Starting with Stoffel, he was the 4th round pick for SF in the 2009 draft.
Pros: Good K/BB rate, good HR rate, is still relatively young at 22.
Cons: Probably not the highest ceiling and 9.1 H/9 seems high.
As for Sosa, jeez…this guy has horrible numbers (a 2.400 WHiP this season!), a walk rate that has skyrocketed (although he still strikes out guys at a decent clip), and he also turns 26 in a week and a half. In other words, he’s a throw in so Ed Wade can say “Hey Drayton, I got two players for Keppinger just like you asked!”.
Why the rush?
I may be in the minority here, but I don’t see the reason for calling up Altuve yet. He has earned it, but the Astros aren’t going anywhere this year.
My skeptical side says that the management is just getting desperate to keep fans engaged.
by pacbellpilgrim on Jul 19, 2011 5:37 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
This is why you call him up
There is no pressure on Altuve to perform with the playoffs on the line. If he struggles you can always send him to AAA. There is no down side to letting Altuve play 2nd for the Astros, instead of moving him to AAA.
by Neil Leininger on Jul 19, 2011 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm generally with not rushing guys but it's not like Andersen Hernandez or anyone else in
this system is lighting it up at 2nd base. So why not bring him up? Besides you know Angel will get his fair share of playing being a more verterany player now for Mills.
I mean I don't really approve of calling him up
But the irrational part of me is extremely excited. I like Altuve more than any prospect we’ve had in a LONG time. Better than Lyles, better than Castro, any of them. I’m not even necessarily saying he’s a better prospect objectively speaking—but from a biased fan’s perspective, I’m sold on him and think he’s going to be one of the best players on this team in the long term.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
by OremLK on Jul 19, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is what John Sickels had on Stoffel on his 2010 SF Top 20 Prospects List prior to last season
9) Jason Stoffel, RHP, Grade B-: 5.01 ERA, 55/16 K/BB in 41 innings for High-A San Jose, 43 hits, 1.48 GO/AO, 21 saves. I think he has the potential to improve a lot next year.
Footer just tweeted this
alysonfooter Mills on Altuve: “I can tell you he’s playing second base tomorrow. He’s my second baseman. We didn’t bring him here to sit him.” #wow
by StrosSouth on Jul 19, 2011 5:43 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I think Ed Wade
and a heart to heart with Mills.
by Neil Leininger on Jul 19, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
eh i dont like him wearing 27 but o well it is my Road to the show number in The show lol
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
lol i love and hate this
I am prob over valuing him but i just think we could have gotten something better
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
yea just wish Ed Wade wasnt making the deals
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
yea lets just hope this isnt how he screws up all the trades he makes
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
kepp has no trade value
that is the problem. we should certainly get more for pence, bourn or wandy though.
by auclairkeithbc on Jul 19, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
if they get a similar return for those 3
Crane may show up and shoot Wade before anyone else has a chance to try and get him..
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
the thing is he screwed up last year in the Roy O trade too so idk if he can make any good deals
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the Oswalt trade was pretty fair
Amusingly, it might be looking better right now if we had held onto Gose instead of flipping him for Wallace (a move most of us liked at the time). Gose has advanced himself to top 100 status I think. Villar was borderline and scouts are apparently still gushing over his tools.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
we had no reason to get Wallace
lee could have played first all year
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
FYI
Lee sucks at first base – every time I watch him play first he always screws up at least one play.
by super_shredder on Jul 20, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I think people are expecting WAY to much for Kep
Lets not forget that he is not a great fielder, he does not take walks and he is on most playoff teams a very good bench bat/Utility guy.
Lets not expect the world for a guy that will be back om the bench when the Giants regular SS and 2B come back healthy…
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
To go a step further
keithlaw keithlaw
Sosa/Stoffel. Not a bad return at all. RT @FearThePotato: @keithlaw Any information on the prospects the Astros got for Keppinger?
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
The value is about right
I just don’t like that the majority of it is comprised of a relief pitcher.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
I dont like when you get a 26 year old and claim its a prospect
would have rather got a High upside 19 or 20 year old that was in the bottom of their top 20 or 30 than a guy who is just a throw in
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Stoffel is the centerpiece
I think Sosa is mostly just a throw-in.
One B- prospect and an organizational arm sounds about right for Kepp. I just wish the B- prospect was anything other than a relief pitcher
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
Stoffel isn’t a B- prospect. If he were, I’d be better with it. He wasn’t a top 20 in their system going into this season. C+ guy
yea the B- was from last year
guy is almost at a 4 era in AA this year as a reliver. Nothing special
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Stoffel is not, I repeat not, a B- prospect.
He was last year. This year he has dropped out of the Giants top 20 (Sickels) into the marginal C category. You can try and spin it anyway you want – we got screwed. Now watch next year we he goes into free agency and the Giants get a late first round and a supplemental pick for him.
And Mr Crain you can go ahead and let Wade go asap
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
That was before this season
I would argue that he’s advanced himself back into, at least, strong C+ range by performing decently well at AA ball this year. Really I would have expected a strong C+, weak B- for Kepp. Kepp’s perceived value is low. It’s not like Pence where everyone knows he’s going to require a huge haul to pry away. Teams view Keppinger as a bench player.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
I tend to agree that that is how they view him.
But if that is the case, take a gamble on his free agency return.
Well if the giants get into the playoffs, and they offer Keppinger arbitration my bets are he will except it and they won’t get that supplemental round pick for him.
and that is if FA comp is the same by the time the new CBA comes out
very unlikely it will be…
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
If Hooten is able to straghten out whatever his issues are Sosa could very well be a
steal for this organization.
Yea thats true. I was just wondering
Im weird when it comes to players cause i like young players more than anything. Thats y i love drafing HS guys. but if we could find out how to make him a servicable starter in a year or 2 then its a win
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Soo excited to see Altuve play
Of course this leaves us with no top 100 prospects in the minors (except maybe Martinez but that’s a bit iffy) again. Sigh.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
Ill be at the game tommorrow for sure after the Mills comment
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
well it normally is
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I have to say
We got Kepp and only gave up Drew Sutton who was also not a top 20 Astros prospect at the time. But we got Kepp for several cheap years when his value was a little higher than it is now. AND some people thought we gave up too much. I don’t think we needed to do this deal, and seeing Altuve up right now is downright horrific in my view, but the value for Kepp is almost non-existent.
Cleveland got Carlos Santana for Casey Blake.
Just sayin.
by YohannDookeyblue on Jul 19, 2011 6:00 PM CDT reply actions
and a GM that was forced to send a much better contract because he could take on no payroll
and Cleveland ate Blake’s contract..
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
By the way tommarows game is on MY 20 ):
When you ask Carlos Lee what his favorite place to play is, and he anwsers with the words, anywhere with a Buffet. You know theirs a real problem.
by orangeblood kid on Jul 19, 2011 6:01 PM CDT reply actions
I don't get that channel, the put games on there sometimes, and I can't see altuves debut
When you ask Carlos Lee what his favorite place to play is, and he anwsers with the words, anywhere with a Buffet. You know theirs a real problem.
by orangeblood kid on Jul 19, 2011 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Houston FOX affiliate I think
I canceled my cable so I’m going to have to run out and buy an antenna tonight so I can watch the game.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
time warner doesn't have it
When you ask Carlos Lee what his favorite place to play is, and he anwsers with the words, anywhere with a Buffet. You know theirs a real problem.
by orangeblood kid on Jul 19, 2011 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course you live in CC so it maybe diffrent for you, I live in Austin
When you ask Carlos Lee what his favorite place to play is, and he anwsers with the words, anywhere with a Buffet. You know theirs a real problem.
by orangeblood kid on Jul 19, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
There is a secondary channel here that shows Rangers/Astros games
when the other is on Fox. So maybe that is it.
No. They did some great scouting.
Wade probably had his eyes on relievers the entire time.
by YohannDookeyblue on Jul 19, 2011 6:02 PM CDT reply actions
The Astros had another chance to excite me, and disappointed me instead.
Oh well, tomorrow is another day.
Id take Beachy as a centerpice id be perfectly fine with that sept for his injurys
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
With Wade at the helm?
Well, If we do get one of those for Bourn, it’ll make up for this and the Berkman deals..
by YohannDookeyblue on Jul 19, 2011 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Dont see the Berkman deal as the bad one.
Malancon isnt horrible and Paredes has been having a decent year at AA
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Its possible in my opinion, i’d be fine with a straight up deal for him. His spot in the rotation is clogged by talented young pitchers and Teheran will probably replace hudson.
I dont want minor. Something about him just scares me away. Would rather get Vizcaino and some other guys
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I might be the only one
But I actually like Beachy better than Minor I think. I see similar potential and more current results. He doesn’t have the pedigree, but he’s the exact type of prospect the analysts frequently miss on.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
Im bigger on Beachy than Minor
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Who? Who? And WHo?
Bourn is a very valuable commodity I would HOPE we could get back a top 50 prospect in return.
by YohannDookeyblue on Jul 19, 2011 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
or at least top 100
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Very simply put...
RattoCSN Ray Ratto
by richardjustice
For the rest of you, Keppinger deal is okay, not earth-shifting. Can we not have fun about a B-level trade?
The deal is "OK:… Kep didn’t have tons of value and the Astros didn’t get fleeced. More of a Meh deal on a guy that was going to bring a Meh return..
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
Altuves walk up music/clip should be the seen from scarface, "say hello to my little friend"!
When you ask Carlos Lee what his favorite place to play is, and he anwsers with the words, anywhere with a Buffet. You know theirs a real problem.
by orangeblood kid on Jul 19, 2011 6:13 PM CDT reply actions
Altuve...
let’s say i’ve never seen him before, how would u explain him as a player?
Small grinder. Gives it all when i have seen him
plays to win and looks for his pitch weather it is the first pitch or the last. He gets his pitch he swings no matter what.
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
if he doesnt like it he watches it go
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I would say at minimum Pedroia at best Joe Morgan. lol Seriously though, this kid has what
every big leaguer should have, heart and hustle. Reminds me of Pete Rose in that regards. Hits the ball pretty damn hard and has deceptive speed and power. As far as his fielding he has better than average range and a good arm and can play 3rd if needed.
Holy crap
I love Altuve but you just mentioned arguably the best second baseman in the majors then followed it up with Joe Morgan and Pete Rose. Haha.
The realist in me says he tops out as a solid regular.
My gut says he has a lot more than that in him. My gut’s been wrong plenty of times before, though.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
God, mine too
I think I’ll grab some food when I run out to get the TV antenna so I can watch tomorrow’s game
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
Lol. The Pedroia mention is for the younger guys on here. I doubt anybody except
clack and I remember watching the others play. lol
Idk if He is Joe Morgan but he is gonna be good in my opinion
very good. Has hit over 300 in every level
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Im not sying he will be Morgan ( I can dream though) but I think he has the potential
to be a very similar player. But then again he could fall flat on his ass.
hey you never kno right lol
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
better comp might be Eckstiein?
JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook
LSB: "Oh s#*t, JD. You crazy!"
I think his realistic ceiling
Is a bit higher than Eckstein, because he has more raw power than Eckstein ever did. But realistically, yeah, probably closer to Eckstein than Pedroia.
Maybe something like Howie Kendrick as a more realistic best case outcome.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
Personally I think he is a bit closer to Roberto Alomar and Carlos Baerga but
thats just me
by StrosSouth on Jul 19, 2011 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i hope lol
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
He reminds me of Alomar on the D side with possibly Baerga's power
in the near future w/ also having Alomar’s eye.
I think he hits 10 plus a year once he grows a lil more. Not bad form a 2B
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I said in another thread but Ill say it again.
This an UBER AGGRESSIVE by the FO. And I love it. Altuve is just 21, but he has shown the ability to dominate. I think in 2 years time he will be as good if not better than Pedroia. We’re talking a franchise 2B staple. But, I do expect him to go through some rough patches.
I also think this sends a loud message to the George Springer’s and other high draftees and IFA’s that we will promote very aggressively if you earn it.
by YohannDookeyblue on Jul 19, 2011 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
5'5''
quick grinder with a nice swing, good speed and good lateral movement in the field. Brings the same enthusiasm to the game as Pence. Great teammates!
he's 5'5??
are you serious?? That’s gotta make him the smallest player in the league
by danielcp0303 on Jul 19, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
He says he is actually 5-5-and-a-half though. And yes, he will be the shortest active player in MLB.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
Above average speed
Not a burner, but fairly quick. He makes up for it by generally being a very aggressive player with good baseball instincts. He takes a lot of extra bases in a variety of situations, not just stolen bases.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
Ive watched him extend singles into doubles bc the OFers dont expect
hitters today to go for it. he has more than enough speed to pull it off too.
I’m perfectly fine with the deal. One of the guys could make the bigs and produce for a few years and the other is just an organizational filler. Kepp wasn’t gonna help Houston for much longer or help us make the playoffs or anything so no biggie. Besides like someone said Kepp is someone who is a role player. It’d make no sense to trade away a significant prospect or player for a rental role player. I’m stoked but scared that Altuve was called up. I am having visions of JR Towles entering my head and I don’t like it at all. Both started in A ball and ended up in the majors at the end of the year. This scares me but Tiny could do it
No brainer better bring back some good prospects at least 2
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
ALLLLLLLTUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUVEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.FireBradMills.com
http://www.FireEdWade.com
I wonder if he'll be able to pinch hit
We we we so excitedd
We so excited
We gonna have a ball today…. To quote Rebecca Black’s ‘Friday’
OMGOMG OMG OMG I AM GOING CRAZY WOOOOOO!!!!!!!
AAAAAALLLLTUVEEEEE!!!!
http://www.FireBradMills.com
http://www.FireEdWade.com
rather save him for tomorrow
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Altuve better be damn well ready.
If he falls flat on his face, I’m going to personally kick Ed Wade in the balls.
E-5-1-50
We are gonna do that anyway
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
is that who i think it is
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
ok im dumb and not sure
Hinze?
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
ooooooooo yea i thought it was a photo shop
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Shawn Chacón
He grabbed Ed Wade by the neck and threw him to the ground. Unfortunately, that was all he was able to do.
http://www.FireBradMills.com
http://www.FireEdWade.com
yea i remember that
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Those were the days
I completely forgot about that little moment until you threw his picture up there. Pure greatness.
Wait wait wait, what the hell, Ed Wade???
I wanna come too!!!
http://www.FireBradMills.com
http://www.FireEdWade.com
Yes Yes Yes Yes
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Waht if?
We actually trade Pence and then call up JD?
I wouldnt rule it out at this point.
by YohannDookeyblue on Jul 19, 2011 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
wonder if he can play RF. Doubtful
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh no you ain't Mr. Martinez
I been here fo’ 3 years, I deserve it befo’ you. Says Mr. Jimmy Van Ostrand
http://www.FireBradMills.com
http://www.FireEdWade.com
take a hike pal lol
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I outhit you on any day of the week
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL, Really?
You’re not taking my job. LOL, n00b!
http://www.FireBradMills.com
http://www.FireEdWade.com
As Hinze hits another bomb and says you cant hit them like i can kid
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
yea i wonder what happened to that
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember when we drafted Garen Wright. Heck was very high on him.
Hopefully hes turning it on.
by YohannDookeyblue on Jul 19, 2011 6:57 PM CDT reply actions
I just this quote by Ed Wade from Steve Campbell
“Over the last four years we’ve talked about creating an express lane in
the organization for players," Astros general manager Ed Wade sad. "Obviously it’s driven by talent, and everything’s driven by talent, but it’s also driven by makeup and whether players can take on that type of a challenge and move at that pace.
"We saw Jason Castro do it coming out of college and being in the big leagues in June of 2010. And we’ve seen Jordan Lyles’ ascent to the big leagues this year in the same fashion and we think Jose is made the same way."
Really Ed? You’ve been talking about it for four years? Why no action until now? Oh yeah I forgot you and grocery boy have no clue what the hell you’re doing.
Ed Wade's plan
Was to call up everyone a full year too early?
by auclairkeithbc on Jul 19, 2011 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Prob with Lyles is
He still had work to do on some of his pitches and some of the games where his control has been off is proof of that
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by astrosfan1989 on Jul 19, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I changed it from clouds to a solid green yesterday.
Now am thinking about putting up a picture of a puppy or Altuve.
http://www.FireBradMills.com
http://www.FireEdWade.com
On Sosa & Stoffel
Sosa has been a starter his entire minor league career until his early season promotion to AAA this year when was converted to relief. His number at AA as a starter have been excellent – an FIP in the 2.00’s, high K’s and low BB’s. However as a starter and reliever in AAA his FIP is just under 6.00, not very good.
Stoffel has only made it up to AA and over his minor league career he has never had a FIP over 4.00. 25 saves in 2010 (A+) and 13 so far this season (AA). High K/9, average BB/9 around 4.5.
Unfortunately, pitch analysis data isn’t readily available for minor league players.
In the end, I think the weak trade return for Keppinger is due to the fact that teams are unwilling to view him as a full time starter. Keppinger’s lack of power and mediocre defense puts him in the utility infielder category in the eyes of most teams. The difference is important in terms of trade value. The Giants sent a Top 50 prospect (a former first round draft choice) to the Pirates in order to acquire Freddy Sanchez (an injured second baseman whom Keppinger will back up). The Brewers sent a return similar to the Keppinger trade when they acquired Felipe Lopez from the D-Backs in 2009. (The Brewers sent a C type minor league pitcher plus a non-prospect minor league outfielder.) Lopez, like Keppinger, was having a good offensive season at the time, but was viewed as a utility infielder / part time player.
This is how Im seeing this trade too. Keppinger was a bright spot on this dreadful team. I
think that is why most fans here are upset that we didnt get more in return for him. With Sosa I’m hoping that pitching coach extraordinaire, Burt Hooten will be able to correct what ever it is that has bothered him the past two seasons. If he is able to do so this kid could be a steal as he has a mid 90’s FB which is something this starting rotation could use more of. With Stoffel he’s still young enough that there is time for him to get back on track also.
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