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The truth, or nothing like the truth?


There are a few things you can count on with baseball. The grass will be green, they will play almost everyday, and they are not going to tell you anything. Over and over the same words come from the same mouths. And then the same words will come from some other mouth. You all know the boiler plate statements about the day to day games. To me, that is understandable. If you are a good player the same question may come up a few thousand times a year. The irritating rhetoric for me comes from the management and front office types.

What is your opinion about the honesty between the team and fans of the team?

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There are a ton of examples from the manager, to scouts, to directors, to gm, up to the owner.

If you have followed one baseball season by watching games and reading articles you can pretty much assume you have heard everything that any one of the forementioned people will say. It will play out again and again on a cycle. 

It's a long season, we are gonna take it game by game.

The ball sounds different off his bat.

We want to develop a culture of winning in the lower levels(Astro specific)

Champion. Champion. Champion.

And this is what inspired my writing this: "We are going to take the best player available".

Here are a few statements from Bobby Heck, that personally, I think are BULL. Got it at http://exm.nr/mDuyDf

"Heck informed MLB.com Wednesday night that a change in ownership isn't going to influence the organization's approach to the Draft."

Furthermore, he told Examiner.com that all those involved -- Wade, himself and everyone associated with the scouting department -- will rank the prospective Draft picks from No. 1-100 and simply cross the names off their board as they get selected.

"Whoever is the top name on the Astros' Draft board at No. 11 will be selected, regardless of position or rumored signing bonus demands."

I don't buy this at all. If the guys drafting don't inquire about Crane's opinion they are dumb or don't care for their job. And then going on about a top 100, mentioning signability not factoring, yeah, that is bull to me. I wonder quite often why baseball is the way it is.

Does this stuff bother anyone else out there or is it just me? Now it's time to enjoy some pitching.



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How do you feel about what you hear from Astro management?
It's gospel
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It is thruthful
2 votes
I think they believe it
7 votes
It is what they are supposed to say
8 votes
It doesn't matter
3 votes
They don't care what fans think
3 votes

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The “take the best player available” line is what GMs think that they are supposed to say. I agree that it the statement doesn’t mean much, and if it has any truth it is only a kernal of truth. Does it bother me? Oh, not too much. Maybe I have just become cynical of public statements in general, whether they be from corporations or politicians or baseball teams. In any event, I just ignore public statements if they seem like fluff. Sometimes front office statements are intentionally misleading for strategic reasons, i.e., you don’t want other teams to know what your real decision criteria is in the draft. Maybe it’s better to just say nothing, but that’s easier said than done with reporters desperately wanting interviews.

I read an interview with Phil Nevin that was linked at BBTF. Nevin has been named a minor league manager, and I came away from the interview liking Nevin. He was bluntly honest on some issues. One of commenters at BBTF said that Nevin was 150% more candid than the replacement level major league manager, and that he should probably stop being so candid if he wanted to have a chance at becoming a major league manager.

by clack on Jun 3, 2011 8:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Crane

You mentioned Crane’s involvement in the draft. I would be very surprised if their hasn’t been informal discussion between Wade and Crane about the draft. Wade has given Crane and Postolos the Astros’ Top 100 ranking as well as reports on the players whom the Astros believe will be available at the No. 11 pick. For public purposes, the Astros say that Crane and Postolos are observing and learning. But the MLB would probably frown on any statements that Crane is given input on the draft, since he has not been approved as owner. In reality, you know that opinions are likely given and exchanged in informal conversation.

by clack on Jun 3, 2011 8:25 AM CDT reply actions  

heck and wade have already formally met with Postolos and Crane to disuss how everything works, and I’m sure they discussed the top100 board and how they develop the criteria for that, including why somebody is where they are on that list.

by Subber10 on Jun 4, 2011 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just gonna post this here because I don't wanna put effort into it

Heck’s latest sound byte is that they got 10 of the top 120 athletes on their board. I don’t exactly know what he means by that. It sounds a lot like shit though.

My first mistake was assuming you knew what I was talking about.

by Shamus on Jun 8, 2011 9:36 PM CDT reply actions  

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