What is Going on With J.R. Towles
It appears Brad Mills has settled into a catching pattern. From Steve Campbelll at the Houston Chronicle:
"It was earlier, probably even a week ago," Mills said. "I think we see some advantages (using Quintero more) experience-wise.
"There’s no doubt J.R. is doing a great job of what we’re asking him to do. He’s fine right now with what we’re asking him to do and improving the way we need him to improve."
I'm not buying.
When J.R. Towles was struggling it was easy to bench him, but now that he's actually hitting it appears Mills is looking for other excuses to keep Towles out of the lineup.
I really don't mind splitting up the time three starts for one and two for the backup, but Mills has got this backwards. Don't get me wrong Humberto Quintero has proven to be a valuable catcher he does have more experience than Towles, he's certainly better defensively, but he's a backup catcher. At the age of 31 that's not going to change.
Towles may very well be the best hitter on this team. Am I jumping to conclusions based on only 57 plate appearances? Probably, but let's not forget the Astros jumped to their own conclusion on Towles offense in almost the same amount of plate appearances the last two years.
Before we dive into why Towles is one of the better offensive players on the team, I want to give a brief overview on the statistic Weighted On-Base Average (wOBA), because we use it a lot around here and I don't think anyone has every taken the time to explain.
wOBA is a statistic from FanGraphs.com and their description of it is:
Weighted On-Base Average combines all the different aspects of hitting into one metric, weighting each of them in proportion to their actual run value.
In layman's terms not all hits are created equal, wOBA gives each hit and walk it's correct value. If you want to dive deeper into the statistics you can go here.
Now that wOBA has been explained let's look at the above average hitters, with at least 50 plate appearances, on the team according to wOBA average.
| Player | wOBA |
| Jason Bourgeois | .452 |
| Brett Wallace | .381 |
| J.R. Towles | .372 |
| Hunter Pence | .369 |
| Michael Bourn | .334 |
.330 is typically league average, but that may vary slightly from year to year.
As you can see Jason Bourgeois was very good right before he got injured, Brett Wallace appears to of gotten it figured out, Hunter Pence and Michael Bourn are doing there thing. Every single one of them has a batting average on balls in play well above average (BABiP), average being .300.
BABiP gives an indication on the luck of a particular player. A below average BABiP indicates that a players been unlucky, above means they've been lucky. A player can sustain a higher than average BABiP due to speed and LD%. The example I like to use is when players say they're hitting into outs or they're on a streak where they're always finding the holes in a defense, that's BABiP.
With Pence and Bourn it's not an issue because they both have speed which should help them maintain a high BABiP. Wallace and Bourgeois on the other hand both have highly unsustainable BABiP's. Anything above .400 is highly unsustainable even for speed, and both are above that mark. Wallace though does have a good LD% and Bourgeois has speed so they could sustain higher than normal levels of BABiP.
Towles on the other hand has a below average BABiP which means he's been a bit unlucky. When his BABiP begins to regress to the mean (.300) that wOBA is going to go up. Heck even if wOBA isn't your thing look at his triple slash line .271/.386/.458, that triple slash line is going to improve. But the Astros are going to miss out on that improvement because they're only going to play him 40% of the time.
In case you were wondering Quitnero has a .276 wOBA with a .328 BABiP.
Okay so maybe offense isn't your thing and you prefer defense and calling a game. I can't defend Towles defensive ability, it's pretty clear Q is the better defensive catcher. The game calling on the other hand is a different story.
We've discussed the importance of game calling in comments before, so let's explore that. Towles has called every Wandy Rodriguez game, and while Rodriguez got off to a somewhat bad start, he's put together three quality starts and has gone at least 7 innings in six of his eight starts. He's caught Nelson Figueroa twice and let's be fair Figueroa is what he is and seems to of been getting squeezed a bit more than your typical starter. He's also caught Bud Norris twice and both times Bud went 6 innings and allowed at least 3 runs. Q was behind the plate for three 0 ER games, but also for three games in which Bud allowed anywhere from 3-5 runs.
J.A. happ was caught once by Towles, in that game Happ allowed 2 runs in 5 innings. Which leaves Aneury Rodriguez who has had one good game and two bad with Towles behind the plate. Of course yesterdays game could of been better had the defense showed up. Maybe Towles isn't Brad Ausmus, but his game calling and defense isn't so bad that it should keep him out of the lineup 60% of the time.
My final argument is simple, and doesn't even involve any kind of statistics. If Jason Castro hadn't got injured he would most likely of been give a bulk of the time and he has even less experience than Towles.
Experience isn't what this team needs, it needs youth and Towles certainly provides that over Quintero.
Maybe there's something behind closed doors we're not seeing. Maybe it's the way he carries himself, maybe he stepped on someone's shoes or maybe he smells funny, it's behind closed doors. All I know is that he can hit and now that he has been hitting this season the Astros are still looking for reason to keep him out of the lineup.
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J.R. Towles is 0 for his last 15. I initially liked putting him in the 2 spot in the batting order. But this slump seems to correspond with the change of position in the batting order. Maybe it’s just coincidence, but I was be inclined to put him back in his old batting order spot (No. 8) to see if that helps. Maybe he felt extra pressure higher in the batting order.
Towles also needs to improve his ratio at throwing out baserunners this year. He is 1 for 16 in throwing out runners at 2d base. I’m not sure of the reason. But, in any event, if he keeps that ratio up, teams will start picking on him with the running game. And that could lead the manager to bench him when the Astros play teams with good running games.
by clack on May 16, 2011 10:15 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Although he’s had a rough month so far, he did have the key walk in the ninth inning win in which Pence hit a walk-off double down the left field line. I think he’s exactly the player the Astros need in the two hole. Their other option is apparently Barmes and they had no problem allowing him to work through his issues in that slot.
1 for 16 is certainly bad, but his minor league numbers would indicate even he’s not that bad. As Astro fans have we become to used to the defensive catcher that we won’t allow someone who has a good bat, but isn’t as spectacular defensively.
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by Timothy De Block on May 16, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Defense at catcher is very important. The reason is that the catcher and pitcher are a team, and a poor defensive catcher will hurt the pitching. As I’ve written in the past, poor pitch framing skill alone may cost a team one-quarter run of ERA. I’m not saying that Towles can’t become an adequate catcher, but I wouldn’t want to see a starting catcher who is a bad defensive catcher. I don’t think that Towles has to be spectacular as a defensive catcher, but he needs to be adequate.
by clack on May 16, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Am I the only one finds it a bit perplexing that Mills has JR Towles catching
our pitchers who are of latin origins? To me using JR to catch these guys is not using this little thing I call common sense. Common sense and logic say that if you have a veteran catcher who speaks Spanish (yes I know the language varies somewhat from one country to another) that you would want that veteran to catch your Spanish speaking pitchers. Especially if that pitcher is very young and raw.
It just doesn’t make sense that you have an English speaking catcher behind the plate with a predominately Spanish speaking pitcher. Maybe I am missing something here but to me having both pitcher and catcher speaking the same language would lend to better communication on and off the field. Thats just me though.
I see your point, and I sometimes wonder about the language issue. But I really don’t know enough about the individual language skills of the pitchers. You can tell that Wandy isn’t overly comfortable answering press questions in English, but I would guess, based on his years of experience with different catchers, that he can communicate well with players on the field. I don’t know about Aneury’s communications skills at all. You would think that the coaches would be aware of the language issue when Towles is assigned to him. Also, it’s possible that we are overrating language barrier on the field. I have seen quotes from Japanese players who say that initially they didn’t know English at all but had no communications problems on the field because everyone speaks baseball.
by clack on May 16, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This discussion reminded me of the old Frank Thomas "Yellow Tango" story
During the 1962 season, New York Mets center fielder Richie Ashburn and Venezuelan shortstop Elio Chacón found themselves colliding in the outfield. When Ashburn went for a catch, he would scream, “I got it! I got it!” only to run into Chacón, who spoke only Spanish. Ashburn learned to yell, “¡Yo la tengo! ¡Yo la tengo!” instead. In a later game, Ashburn happily saw Chacón backing off. He relaxed, positioned himself to catch the ball, and was instead run over by left fielder Frank Thomas, who understood no Spanish and had missed a team meeting that proposed using the words “¡Yo la tengo!” as a way to avoid outfield collisions. After getting up, Thomas asked Ashburn, “What the heck is a Yellow Tango?”.
by El Speverino on May 16, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
That's just preference
If you prefer defense that’s fine, my point was the experience argument is bs. I think Towles is an adequate defensive player for the bat that he brings to the lineup, but we can’t be certain of that if he’s considered the backup player.
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by Timothy De Block on May 16, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
True. He needs to start so the Astros know what they have.
by conroestro on May 16, 2011 12:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Im all for playing JR more. This guy was once one of out top prospects
who has struggled in previous attempts in the bigs. Now he seems to have turned the corner somewhat and he’s most of time. i just dont get Mills’ logice on this unless we are missing something.
I would definitely like to see Towles get the majority of the playing time behind the plate because the Astros need to find out what they have in him so they know what to do with him when Jason returns late in the season. Yes he is slumping majorly right now, but its not like Q is ripping the cover off the ball.
Maybe some of Towles defensive miscues could be cured with more consistent playing time. While he can learn alot by watching Q, he can’t learn everything he needs to as far as game calling goes without actually calling the games.
With Max Ramirez now as a backup option in triple-a it seems like the Astros have three backups that they are going to try to piece together a season out of. Depending on how Towles or to a lesser extent Ramirez do this season it may be in there best interest to go with a younger backup that could be more cost controlled for the future.
by conroestro on May 16, 2011 10:45 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Quintero
Is greatly over-rated as a defensive catcher. His SB ratio is equally as bad as Towles, and just isn’t that great of a game caller. Added with his inability to do much with the bat, it’s just another thing that makes Mills a horrible manager.
Brad Mills is not a bad manager.
Michelangelo did not paint the Sistine Chapel with crayons damnitall. Give the man some players and half a chance.
by chilam balam on May 16, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
A NOT bad manager
doesn’t send a rookie pitcher back out there after throwing nearly 40 pitches in the previous inning. A large amount due to his manager’s decision to put a guy at 1B who isn’t a 1B.
by Neil Leininger on May 16, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes he does. Its called letting him get through the tough spots. Every pitcher
goes through it. If you take a young pitcher out when he’s struggling sometimes you run the risk of him taking it hard mentally and some guys never recover from it. Every player has to get through the struggles at some point. What Mills learned yesterday from An-Rod’s struggles is that he’s resilient and and got himself out of the inning thatblew up because of Lee’s miscue.
They are trying to build up Lee’s trade value some i believe by having him play 1B. Plus if he continues to hit like he has been lately that value increases even more.
Trade Value
He’s got 36M reasons why his trade value is next to nothing.
by Neil Leininger on May 16, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
As of right Lee has little if any trade value. If he continues to hit like
he recently has then his trade value should also rise as we get closer to the trade deadline. This is all a big if though.
I'm kind of meh on Mills
He’s an improvement over Cooper (that doesn’t take much), but I’m not sure that I’d call him a good manager either.
Disagree that Q is an overrated defensive catcher though. His numbers at stopping baserunning over the course of his career are elite, he rarely allows passed balls or wild pitches, and he rarely makes errors.
It’s harder to evaluate how well he does at framing pitches and calling games. Sabermetrics still hasn’t really caught up in that area, although I believe there have been a few studies on it.
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5 WP and 1 BP
in 25 games caught so far. Not too mention 8-28, which is way below his career average. The thing is he’s just so completely horrible with the bat, that it makes it hard to play with 25% of the time let alone 60%.
My biggest issue is that Towles has only started 2 consecutive games twice.
by Neil Leininger on May 16, 2011 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Towles has been on the bench with injuries for significant strings of time, which accounts for the appearance of sporadic use.
by clack on May 16, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Some sort of Consistancy with (Mills)
What i have noticed from Brad Mills is that he obviously is in a postion to ultimately play Hall and Lee till the all star break so they have some trade value. As for the younger players and this team it make’s no sense to play Q more than Towles. EITHER WE ARE REBUILDING OR WE ARE GOING TO PATCH THIS THING TOGETHER. Shit or get off the pot. I think that Q should be put on the trading block also or sent down. He is not a value to the team by getting more playing time.
If he allows some of our pitchers, like Norris, to be more successful, he can be quite valuable.
by clack on May 16, 2011 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think people are way over reacting to Towles’ playing time. You are only arguing about approximately 1 game per week difference in Towles’ playing time. That doesn’t seem like a huge deal to me. I wouldn’t object if Towles got 3 of the starting pitchers instead of 2, but I also don’t get riled up if he gets 2 of the starting pitchers instead. There could be other reasons for the decision. For all I know there may be certain starting pitchers who prefer Q as their catcher over Towles. If that were the case, it wouldn’t be an insignificant factor to take into account.
by clack on May 16, 2011 4:54 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
but over a season that’s 33 games, or around 120-130 PA.
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by Timothy De Block on May 16, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
This
And it’s pretty significant in terms of sample size. I’d like to see Towles get ~400 PA this season, there is no way that will even come close to happening at this rate.
I imagine it’s harder to get into an offensive rhythm playing that less than every other day too.
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Yeah
I am completely, completely against this.
Towles is more than likely better offensively than Castro will be. Just get him at bats! Let him catch the majority of the games, experience is what he needs.
I cant believe that Mills is the only one in on this decision, this just makes NO SENSE. And if it is Mills call, well then, Id rather have Manny Acta – oh wait.
Mills has really started to get on my bad side of late, not Cooper bad, but not playing Towles over freaking Humberto Quintero, when we are argubably the WORST major league team is a very, very stupid decision.
by YohannDookeyblue on May 16, 2011 8:31 PM CDT reply actions
We can hope.
It would be a nice parting gift when he gets fired.
by Neil Leininger on May 16, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
A good manager
A good manager can coach his guys up to play better than what they are. 3 reasons that Mills should be fired
1. Brandon Lyons he knew something was wrong and kept throwing him out there
2. Playing Bill Hall over Downs/ Sanchez /Bourgeouis when Healthy
3. Playing Q more than Towles they should be at the very least 50/50 playing time.
Brandon Lyons probably didnt tell anyone he was injured, Auto's contract
(and pressure from upstairs I’m sure) is forcing Mills to play him, and I got nothing on the Q and JR controversy.



























