Astros 2011 Offense VS. Opposing Starting Pitchers
In an effort to distance ourselves from the depressing news of the Astros relocation to the AL West I decided to write about the Astros 2011 offense, which depending on your outlook could be equally as depressing. There were not a whole lot of high expectations placed on the Astros offense going into the 2011 season. After all, their biggest offseason acquisition was Clint Barmes who wasn’t exactly known as the saving grace at the plate. The Astros did what most expected and finished in the bottom half of the majors in most of the offense related categories. While the Astros did finish 10th out of the 30 teams in batting average, they also managed to finish 26th in runs scored which means that even though the Astros saw a lot of traffic they had trouble bringing their base runners across home plate. If you are interested to see how the Astros ranked in other offense related categories then you can follow this link to MLB's team stats. Instead of delving into these stats to see where the Astros offense underachieved this past season I decided to take a different approach.
There were many times this past season it seemed like if the Astros were facing a top-notch starter then you could pencil in the offense to be shutdown. It also seemed like the Astros offense would struggle against starters that you would expect them to have success against. With this in mind I decided to take the approach of looking at how the Astros offense performed against only starting pitching for the 2011 season. Each starter that the Astros faced was grouped according to their FIP (fielding independent pitching) totals for the 2011 season. The following ranges were used to classify the effectiveness of the different starters that the Astros faced this past season:
1.) Pitcher’s who posted a season FIP between 2.00 and 3.00
2.) Pitcher’s who posted a season FIP between 3.01 and 3.50
3.) Pitcher’s who posted a season FIP between 3.51 and 4.00
4.) Pitcher’s who posted a season FIP between 4.01 and 4.50
5.) Pitcher’s who posted a season FIP between 4.51 and 5.00
6.) Pitcher’s who posted a season FIP of 5.01 and higher
7.) Pitcher’s who pitched a total of less than 50 innings in the majors this past season
The decision to include an additional group of pitchers who pitched less than 50 innings was made for two reasons. One is that it kept pitchers who had a small body of work this past season separate to keep from influencing the overall results. The second reason is that this group is largely comprised of rookies and therefore shows how the Astros offense performed against pitchers that they were seeing for the first time.
The charts below give a detailed description of how the Astros offense performed against the various groups of starters. The first chart shows the overall totals in each category while the second chart measures these totals per nine innings in order to more easily compare them to each other.
| FIP Range | IP | H | R | ER | BB | SO | HR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2.00 - 3.00 | 86 | 71 | 24 | 23 | 17 | 78 | 6 |
| 3.01 - 3.50 | 120.1 | 135 | 69 | 62 | 28 | 94 | 10 |
| 3.51 - 4.00 | 327 | 300 | 126 | 113 | 84 | 260 | 18 |
| 4.01 - 4.50 | 202.1 | 196 | 81 | 74 | 49 | 138 | 15 |
| 4.51 - 5.00 | 139.2 | 146 | 59 | 56 | 34 | 101 | 7 |
| 5.01 And Higher | 60 | 59 | 26 | 24 | 23 | 40 | 4 |
| Less Than 50 IP | 62 | 73 | 37 | 37 | 16 | 51 | 6 |
| FIP Range | H/9 | R/9 | BB/9 | SO/9 | HR/9 | ERA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2.00 - 3.00 | 7.43 | 2.52 | 1.78 | 8.16 | 0.63 | 2.41 |
| 3.01 - 3.50 | 10.12 | 5.17 | 2.10 | 7.04 | 0.75 | 4.65 |
| 3.51 - 4.00 | 8.26 | 3.47 | 2.31 | 7.16 | 0.50 | 3.11 |
| 4.01 - 4.50 | 8.73 | 3.61 | 2.18 | 6.15 | 0.67 | 3.30 |
| 4.51 - 5.00 | 9.44 | 3.81 | 2.20 | 6.53 | 0.45 | 3.62 |
| 5.01 And Higher | 8.85 | 3.90 | 3.45 | 6.00 | 0.60 | 3.60 |
| Less Than 50 IP | 10.59 | 5.37 | 2.32 | 7.40 | 0.87 | 5.37 |
Listed below are some thoughts on the charts above:
• It’s no surprise that the Astros offense struggled against the top starters (FIP 2.00 – 3.00) in the majors as they were not a very patient team, and this group of pitcher’s exposed that weakness the most.
• The only time that the Astros averaged more than 3 walks per nine innings was against pitchers who posted and FIP greater than 5.00. Even then the average BB/9 rate of this group was 3.80, so the 3.45 rate that the Astros posted was still below average.
• Minus the first group of starters the Astros were close to averaging 1 hit per nine innings. This is not that surprising though since the Astros finished the season with a respectable team batting average.
• Of the pitchers who pitched 50 innings or more this season the Astros had the most success at scoring runs against the second group (FIP 3.00 – 3.50) which is surprising considering that out of the 20 games the Astros faced against this group of starters these starters average a WAR of 3.92.
• The Astros did not do a very good job of beating up on the lower quality pitching that they faced this year.
The chart below shows how the Astros fared against these pitchers in terms of W/L record. Also added to the chart is the number of quality starts each group pitched against the Astros, and my made up term of "knockouts" which shows how many times the Astros were able to knock the opposing starter out of the game before the fifth inning.
| FIP Range | Games | Wins | Loses | No Decisions | Quality Starts | Knockouts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2.00 - 3.00 | 12 | 1 | 6 | 5 | 11 | 0 |
| 3.01 - 3.50 | 20 | 8 | 7 | 5 | 8 | 2 |
| 3.51 - 4.00 | 50 | 12 | 27 | 11 | 30 | 3 |
| 4.01 - 4.50 | 34 | 5 | 20 | 9 | 22 | 4 |
| 4.51 - 5.00 | 23 | 3 | 10 | 10 | 14 | 2 |
| 5.01 And Higher | 10 | 1 | 6 | 3 | 6 | 2 |
| Less Than 50 IP | 13 | 4 | 1 | 8 | 4 | 5 |
• 11 of the 12 games pitched against the Astros featuring starters with an FIP of 2.00-3.00 were of the quality variety.
• The only group of starters that the Astros posted a winning record against was the 3.01 – 3.50, which again shows that the team had the most success against these starters this past season.
• Out of the 162 games played the Astros were only able to send the opposing starter to the showers early 18 times.
The last thing that we will look at here is the overall totals of how the Astros offense performed against starters before the July 31st trade deadline compared to how they performed after the trade deadline. The reason I included this is because the Astros offense looked drastically different after the dust settled and the trade deadline passed. Gone were the mainstays of Hunter Pence, Michael Bourn, and Jeff Keppinger. Other changes to that offense were the demotions of Chris Johnson and Brett Wallace. Arriving on the scene were youngsters Jose Altuve, J.D. Martinez, and Jimmy Paredes. There was also an increase in playing time for Brian Bogusevic, and Jordan Schafer joined the crew after returning from his stint on the disabled list.
Instead of breaking this down by starter FIP again I decided to just look at the overall totals against starters before the trade deadline and after the trade deadline due to the fact that the sample size after the deadline passed was already half as small as prior to the trade deadline.
| Pre-Trade Deadline | IP | H | R | ER | BB | SO | HR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 665 | 648 | 272 | 256 | 166 | 526 | 41 | |
| H/9 | R/9 | ERA | BB/9 | S0/9 | HR/9 | ||
| 8.77 | 3.68 | 3.46 | 2.25 | 7.12 | 0.55 |
| Post-Trade Deadline | IP | H | R | ER | BB | SO | HR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 331.1 | 332 | 150 | 133 | 85 | 236 | 25 | |
| H/9 | R/9 | ERA | BB/9 | S0/9 | HR/9 | ||
| 9.02 | 4.08 | 3.62 | 2.31 | 6.41 | 0.68 |
The charts above show that the Astros offense performed slightly better against starters in every category sampled after the trade deadline than they did prior to the trade deadline. One thing to keep in mind here is that even though 8 of the 12 games against a pitcher who posted an FIP between 2.00 – 3.00 came after the trade-deadline, so did 11 of the 13 games against a pitcher who pitched less than 50 innings in the majors this past season.
Final Thoughts
I'm sure that this type of excercise is somewhat flawed mainly due to the variance in sample size between the different groups of pitchers, but this is how the Astros offense performed against starters this past season. As expected the offense struggled against elite starters this past season, but surprisingly they did perform pretty well against some very good pitchers. They were also unable to beat up on the weaker pitching (5.00 FIP and higher) as much as you would like to see. If your a glass is half full person then maybe you can find comfort in the fact that most of the post trade-deadline team will be returning next year, and maybe the slight improvements seen will carry over into next season. On the other hand if your a half empty person then you will say that the sample size was significantly smaller, and on average the pitching faced was of lesser quality largely due to September callups. Either way you choose to look at it improvement upon last year's statistics against starters, mainly in the walk department and bringing baserunners across home plate, would be nice to see in 2012.
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Good Post
For what it’s worth, here is that last table prorated to 665 IP for comparison’s sake:

I think you made a good point about sample size there at the end, but it’s pretty depressing to see how the Astros made just about every pitcher with more than 60 IP against them look like an ace.
The odd part is, I don’t understand how the Astros performed BETTER without Pence and Bourn in the lineup, during a part of the season where Altuve was clearly declining. Was the strength of schedule during the first half harder, or is the “after deadline” sample just too small to have a lot of meaning.
Fun way to look at the season.
I didn’t even think about prorated that for the season. Good idea.
It was somewhat surprising to me when I was researching everything that the Astros offense did better albeit half the sample size. I think J.D. Martinez being either clutch, lucky, or both just about replaced Hunter offensively. I haven’t looked at their stats, but I think they both hit about the same amount of homeruns in that timeframe and J.D. still had alot of rbi’s on an inferior offense.
Add to that the fact that Carlos Lee had a good second half and Jimmy Paredes and Brian Bogusevic performed better than expected and probably over there heads and I guess I can see it.
by conroestro on Nov 21, 2011 8:59 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
In terms of strength of schedule, keep in mind that all of the interleague games were in the first half, and the astros had a .267 winning percent in interleague play. The astros played the Rangers, Red Sox, and Rays in interleague play. Also, I think that the improvement in Lee’s hitting (after a terrible first month) and the replacement of Wallace and Chris Johnson in the second half probably offset the loss of Bourn and Pence, and had a lot to do with the better offensive performance in the second half. The Astros RS by month for first and second half is pretty similar, except for July when the team only scored 81 runs. Wallace and Johnson had fallen into bad slumps in July (which is why the were both sent down to OKC in early August).
Good work...
I have never been able to determine a pattern with these type of analysis (relative performance vs. different types of pitchers), but I encourage the effort to do so. I like the addition of the “knock out” statistic, by the way.
Is there any way to compare the astros’ performance vs. less than 50 IP pitchers, vs. the league average for those pitchers? The fans of almost every team think that their team is the worst as hitting against first time pitchers. But it would be interesting to know how the astros performed against those pitchers relative to other teams.
That’s a good idea. I could do that for sure. I still have all of the spreadsheets created from the different pitchers faced, and it wouldn’t be that hard to look up how other teams performed against pitchers falling into that category. I like that idea.
“Knockout” – while I was researching how the Astros did against the different starters this past year I noticed that it seemed like many of them were pitching at least 5 innings against the Astros and many 6 or more, so I figured I would try and call that something. The Astros didn’t have very many games this year where they jumped on starters early and often.
by conroestro on Nov 21, 2011 11:29 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Off topic, prbly been mentioned...Clint Barmes is gone....2-Year deal with buc's.
Now what?
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Nov 21, 2011 11:03 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Something we'd probably do!
If i were Arnold Rothstein id pay Ryan Braun all the money he
wants to stop going on homer streaks against the poor Astros....
am i the only one?
by ccislanders on Nov 21, 2011 11:17 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
What’s next? Hopefully still a compensation draft pick.
Maybe Crane should have tried to workout a deal with MLB that would allow him to field two shortstops as compensation for the move to the AL.
by conroestro on Nov 21, 2011 11:31 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
If Angel Sanchez starts at SS
I don’t know what I’d do.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Wade is quoted by mlb.com as saying that he will look for a front-line starter at shortstop or a shortstop to platoon with Sanchez. Barmes is quoted as saying that he talked with Wade and felt that he didn’t fit into the Astros’ plans.
That’s disappointing considering that I’m not for sure if there was a better shortstop on this market that fit into the Astros plans more than Barmes. The 2 year deal Barmes received should have been affordable even for the Astros. Plus 2-3 year contracts are all the Astros should be doing right now anyways.
by conroestro on Nov 21, 2011 12:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I like Barmes, but.....
Barmes probably wouldn’t do that much to improve the Astros chances of competing the next two years. Maybe he would bring 2 extra wins each year over the course of the contract? Anyways, seems like you take the comp pick and invest some of that saved money into int’l FA signings and the draft.
by Reverend Koosh on Nov 21, 2011 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t know. I like the extra draft pick provided it will for sure be there, and if the Astros invest in IFA then that would be nice also, although I would like to see that regardless of if they re-signed Barmes.
With the possibility of our pitches staff getting younger (if Wandy and Brett are traded) then I would like to see a solid defense behind them. Barmes would provide that, and regardless of the amount of Wins he would contribute to his signing could go a long ways in letting our younger pitchers pitch to gain confidence in pitching to contact. The Astros have some prospects in the system that are more groundball pitchers than strikeout pitchers so a solid defensive middle infield would be nice.
by conroestro on Nov 21, 2011 2:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The way I’m trying to look at it is that we traded Barmes for 4 Ariel Ovando’s ($10M worth of IFAs), 1 Johan Santana (Rule 5 pick that will take Barmes’ slot), and 1 Jordan Lyles (compensation pick). Yes, I know that’s way overly optimistic.
by Snake Diggity on Nov 21, 2011 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
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It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Yes, I agree with conroestro that the defense provided by Barmes would have been very valuable in the development of young pitchers. It can be hard to get young pitchers to throw with conviction if they have bad infield defense behind them. That would have been worth the additional cost for Barmes on a rebuilding team, IMO. Without Barmes, I think the Astros should look for a shortstop who can provide defensive value.
I agree. Ronnie Cedeno, Jack Wilson, or Alex Gonzalez are at the top of my list. I haven’t checked shortstops lately so I’m not for sure if any of these guys have signed somewhere yet, but I would like to see a shortstop who packs more glove than Sanchez.
by conroestro on Nov 21, 2011 5:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think you can get a comparable defensive SS for much less commitment and still get the draft pick.
by Reverend Koosh on Nov 21, 2011 9:14 PM CST up reply actions

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