There's Something About The Astros Signing Travis Buck
Yesterday the Astros made their first move off the offseason that didn't include someone that had been in their system last year. They picked up outfielder Travis Buck who last year batted an uninspiring .228/.275/.342 line. His overall Major League career line is .246/.320/.408 in 5 seasons, fourth outfielder material. Right? Something doesn't add up though.
Why the left handed hitting Buck? The Astros already have Jason Bourgeois and J.B. Shuck penciled in as reserve outfielders. Even if you take out Jordan Schafer, because of his peanut butter cup fetish, that would mean two reserve left handed hitting outfielder, assuming Bourgeois is the fill in at the center field position. Buck and Shuck do rhyme making it easier for Jim DeShaies to entertain us through what looks to be another dreadful season, but that's certainly not it.
Maybe it's outfield depth for the Minor League system. Quite possibly and probably the most likely situation, he was after all signed to a Minor League contract. However, allow me for a moment to enter the tinfoil hat stage (sorry National League fans you're not going to like it). What if signing Travis Buck is an indication that the Astros front office is preparing for a move to the American League. My thought process after the jump.
He's coming over from two American League teams one of which, the Oakland Athletics, reside in the AL West. He's got some serious Major League time. Yes, he has spent time in the Minors every year in his professional career, but he has also spent every year in the Majors since his debut.
Then there's the on-field angle. With the signing of Buck and a move to the AL it allows the Astros the flexibility of moving J.D. Martinez out of left field and into a designated hitter role. Obviously this changes if Brett Wallace is actually hitting in Spring Training. In which case either Carlos Lee or Wallace are put in the DH role and Buck is put in a reserve role. However, Wallace has to prove that he can hit first and it's not a bad idea for the Astros to be prepared with some flexibility. Either way this is a low cost solution for the Astros and give them some flexibility in regards to the DH position.
I thought I remembered Ed Wade making a statement just a few days ago that the Astros were going to take a passive role to free agency. That doesn't eliminate the possibility that Buck approached the Astros and really wanted to sign here, but I see no Houston ties and for the Astros he seems kind of redundant with Shuck around. He also isn't platoon candidate with Brian Bogusevic who also bats from left hand side.
Still I like this signing. It's low risk and Buck is relatively young and has the potential to do something similar to what Bogusevic did this year. He was once rated a Top 100 prospect pre-2007 by Baseball America and did I mention he plays a pretty good right field. At the very least he does provide some competition for Bogusevic in Spring Training.
While I'd like to think this was just a regular offseason signing I can't help but think there's something more to this signing.
On another note the Astros also inked right handed pitcher Adalberto Flores who was a Texas Rangers farmhand. Last year in AA Frisco he posted a 3.32 ERA in 81.1 innings which included 2 starts. He should be a bullpen candidate for the Astros.
The third signing was 1B/OF Nick Stavinoha previously of the St. Louis Cardinals farm system. He spent time with the Major League club from 2008-2010 compiling a .234/.256/.325 line. In AAA Memphis last year he posted a .270/.329/.488 line with 28 homeruns. Also of note is that he was drafted by the Astros in 39th round of the 2002 draft. He didn't sign and was selected three years later by the Cardinals in the 7th round. I imagine he compete for the Darin Erstad role in Spring Training, backup outfielder who can play first base. In that regard he may be a candidate to platoon with Bogusevic as he is a right handed bat.
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But, just like Brett Wallace, Buck would have to prove that he can hit at the major league level as well. Like you said, I think Buck is depth more than anything else. I really don’t view J.B. Shuck very high, and in my opinion Buck already passes Shuck on the depth chart. I know that alot of people will disagree with me there, but that’s my opinion.
Also, I think that Schafer will be with the team next year. I read Levine’s article where the Astros stated they don’t comment on issues like that until they are resolved, but I don’t see the situation arise where Schafer is not a part of the plan. I guess its all speculation right now though.
Like you said as well, Buck is probably brought in to compete with Bogusevic this spring. He did possess more upside than Bogey at one point in his minor league career, so smart idea to take a flyer.
As far as the DH goes, who knows what the Astros would do there. They do have several candidates already like J.D., Wallace, and Hinze to name a few. I guess the only role Buck could play in that decision is if they choose to use Martinez as the DH then Buck could play a more active role in the system. Who knows.
by conroestro on Nov 10, 2011 8:23 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Also, I forgot to say that for guys like Travis Buck it makes sense to sign with the Astros since he has a good chance of receiving playing time.
by conroestro on Nov 10, 2011 9:02 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Hmm...I don't see it.
Interesting article, but I’m not reading between the lines on the Buck signing. He’s a cost-controlled, waiver pickup and a guy who’ll be on his 3rd organization in, what, 2 years now? I look at this as a move to add a bit more filler at the AAA level, although I wouldn’t be surprised if he makes the MLB roster out of the Spring in a bench role.
The same goes for Stavinoha who, coincidentally, I was just thinking to myself a couple of days ago “Whatever happened to Nick Stavinoha?”.
If anyone is likely to fill the DH role for 2012 (assuming the AL switch happens that soon), it’s going to be Carlos Lee. He’s a complete liability in LF and only a serviceable 1B. That said, I could still see him splitting some time at 1B again with Brett Wallace too.
I guess I would consider the signings to fall within what I expect from the concept “passive.” I think “minor league free agents” are what you do if you are “passive” in the bigger free agent market. Buck probably had several teams to choose from, but why wouldn’t you sign with the Astros since the competititors for a ML roster spot are weaker.
The Buck signing is the first move I’ve liked so far (not high on Bixler or Tatum). I’m pretty sure the plan is to have Buck compete with Shuck, with the winner being the 4th or 5th OF and the loser in AAA. If I were a fring MLBer like Buck, the Astros are certainly the 1st team I’d call once I reached Minor League free agency.
I also like the Flores signing.
One thing I haven't been able to get an answer on...
Isn’t the 2012 schedule already set? If the Astros moved to the AL West, wouldn’t it be in 2013? I would imagine that a team moving to the other league would require an upheaval in the schedule of just about every team in baseball.
Interesting alternative take on the signing, but I’m betting the move is just to create depth and competition.
…keep in mind that the rescheduling problem is more than just changing the Astros on everyone’s schedule; it also requires a the scheduling of an interleague game for every day.
Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying. That’s why I don’t think Buck was signed to resolve a potential DH situation.
I took Timmy’s theory to be based on finding a DH for 2013. If the Astros know that they are AL-bound for 2013, and they sign Buck and Stavinoha to contract extensions at some point during the 2012 season, I might buy into that theory. Heck, if they say they will pick up Carlos Lee’s option for 2013, that would tell us something too. Until then, I’m not reading too much into these signings.
I understood it to be for 2013 as well.
by conroestro on Nov 10, 2011 10:02 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
well either way if the Astros are moving to the AL even if it’s not in 2012 I imagine they would look at this offseason as an opportunity to build a club toward the AL. Using this season as a tryout of sorts, for the 2013 season.
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by Timothy De Block on Nov 10, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
Devil's advocate here
How do you know an alternate schedule hasn’t already been worked out?
It’s not like the Astros were just now floated as the team to move. This has been going on for months now, so MLB has had plenty of time to work on a contingency plan.
Ultimately, I think you’re right—the Astros don’t move until 2013. However, if Selig all of the sudden announced later this month that a deal is done and that the move is taking place next season, would you be totally shocked? You have to think that all of the logistics of a move and re-scheduling for 15 team leagues has already been worked out at this point.
Yes. I would be totally shocked. Selig has stated that realignment cannot occur in 2012. Also, a change like that would royally screw up teams’ plans to sell series’ ticket packages and the like.
Either way
Astros are getting their a**es kicked for a second straight season in 2012, so whether it’s the Angels/Rangers or Cardinals/Brewers doing the kicking, the point is probably moot.
Hey, the Dodgers ownership situation is going to be up in the air now to. Why not make them move to the AL West. Maybe they need a “natural” in-state rival as well.
by conroestro on Nov 10, 2011 10:04 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
There’s really only two divisions it affects and that would be the NL Central and AL West. Obviously you do have the interleague nightly but with computer software I don’t think it would be that hard to find a schedule with minimal impact on next seasons schedule.
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by Timothy De Block on Nov 10, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
AL this year?
The article suggests that the Astros will be going to the AL in 2012. I think it has already been announced that any changes to leagues/schedules will not take place until 2013. The 2012 schedule is already out and ticket sellers/teams/fans are already making plans for the year. Carlos Lee wont be around with the Astros to see them go to the AL, so no sense talking about him as a DH.


























