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Glimmers of Hope: Altuve and Paredes

I was going to have two separate entries for these guys, but I'd rather knock them out at the same time since my feelings about them are similar.  I think that both of them will spend quite a bit of time in AAA next season, and that is not really a bad thing because we are not counting on either one putting the Astros over the top and into the playoffs in 2012.  Also both players are young enough that a demotion doesn't mean the Astros have lost faith in them, and they could both benefit from having time to polish their games and maybe get a little better at the finer points of baseball which is easier to do in the minors...allegedly...I haven't done it, but one must assume that AAA exists for a reason.  It's not like it's the universe or something.

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I almost didn't bother to talk about Altuve because he's been pretty well covered here.  But Jose Altuve probably has the better chance of staying in the majors next season. His ability to get his bat on anything may be good enough to keep him in the Majors.  Of course, as CRPerry13, pointed out a while ago his ability to make contact with everything may encourage him to swing at everything.  Not all contact is good contact.  I hope that Altuve has learned or can learn some humility in the majors and work counts a little more.  Not only does he have to respect pitchers more, but he also needs to respect the fielders more in the majors.  Contact that may result in a hit in the minors may not result in a hit in the majors since fielders are better.  I don't expect him ever to be as patient as Berkman, but I hope he can get his walk rate close to his minor league walk rate.  I even hold out some foolish (pro-Astro-biased-homer) hope that he may even do a little better than his minor league walk rate.  I know almost all hitters see their walk rate go down in the majors, but I imagine it must have been hard for Altuve to learn plate disipline when he was getting two hits night.  I hope a little failure leads him to become a better player.  I have no idea what to expect from him.  I can see him hitting an empty .300; I can see him taking a step forward and hitting .310/.360/.430; and I can see him floundering and getting sent down.

I do like Jimmy Paredes, but as everyone here already realizes, his .383 BABIP will com down as Chris Johnson illustrated for us this season, and Paredes's already low OBA will take a big hit.  Like Altuve, Paredes would do better if he swung at fewer balls.  I was surprised to see that he swung at about the same percent of pitches out of the strike zone as Altuve.  When I first saw him play he took several pitches until he got one to hit; that first impression led me to credit him with a better eye than Altuve, but it doesn't seem that way.  I really doubt that he will produce much next season, which is why I love having Downs around.  But in the long term I have a hope that Paredes will become an above average defensive third baseman who can hit .280/.330/.420 with some speed.  Third basemen seem to be hard to find these days, so I really hope Paredes can continue to improve until he can be an ML regular.  I hope his premature call-up will serve as a learning experience and not stunt his growth.

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Coincidently, as you publish this fanpost, both Paredes and Altuve are coming off good games in the Dominican/Venezuelan Winter League. Boxscores: Paredes is 2 for 3 with 4 RBIs
. Altuve hits HR.

by clack on Oct 27, 2011 7:53 AM CDT reply actions  

OMG my first shout-out. <3

Good post by the way, I agree with everything you say here.

by CRPerry13 on Oct 27, 2011 8:53 AM CDT reply actions  

While I’d like to see Altuve in AAA, I think Paredes has a place in Houston due to the fact that he has struggled less and is more versatile defensively. Paredes just didn’t seem as overmatched as Altuve. That said, I’ll be surprised if both of them don’t start off in Houston and it probably isn’t that big of a deal either way. Both faired well enough to have an argument to stick.

The farm is kinda weak at SS and 3B, so it’s important for Houston that the few middle infield prospects they do have pan out. The likely full season SS prospects have some upside; Villar has a very high ceiling and Mier has some tools. Wikoff will probably be a bench guy, and whoever it is in Lexington (Neiko Johnson?) is a non-prospect, so SS is an area that should be addressed in upcoming trades/drafts. As far as 3B, behind Paredes/CJ, they have Jon Meyer, Kvasnicka, and Matt Duffy. All 3 have big question marks, but Meyer and Kvasnicka were once highly touted and still have time to raise their stock.

by Snake Diggity on Oct 27, 2011 10:13 AM CDT reply actions  

Problem is, Paredes' BABIP shows he's probably another 2011 Chris Johnson flop in waiting.

As such, I think a little time in AAA would continue to improve his skills. It kills me to see young players overmatched in the majors, and I think that could happen to Paredes if he starts the year in Houston.

by CRPerry13 on Oct 27, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

The difference is that Paredes defense is miles ahead of Johnson. Which is something this team should focus on for the next few years to at least attempt to be competitive.

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by Timothy De Block on Oct 27, 2011 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think you can compare Paredes and Johnson ...

… they have two completely different approaches at the plate.

by super_shredder on Oct 27, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only comparison is that both had sky-high BABIP’s. Johnson’s was around .370 in 2010, then played horribly when it normalied in 2011. Paredes’ 2011 BABIP is even higher, so I expect a similar regression next season. BABIP should be between 290 and 300.

by CRPerry13 on Oct 27, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Paredes can sustain a higher BABIP than .300—-but definitely not as high as last season.

by clack on Oct 27, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

The BABIP depends on what kind of hitter/player. I think it settles between .290 and .300 for pitchers a little more regularly. Having said that, Paredes’ is definitely not sustainable.

by MadMartygan on Oct 27, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

When I wrote the article on the Astros’ BABIP and used the BABIP formula, it indicated that Paredes had an expected BABIP of .333 (or something like that—-I don’t have time to look up the article). Paredes will likely see regression in his BABIP, but it may not be as severe as we might think. Paredes’ speed, line drive hitting, groundball tendencies, and switch hitting all work to give him a shot at sustaining a relatively high BABIP.

by clack on Oct 27, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Hopefully the strikeouts won’t be too out of hand.

by MadMartygan on Oct 27, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

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