The Astros Bullpen Prospects: What Went Wrong?
Bill James may have been the first to say it, but it's been a fairly established baseball tradition. There's No Such Thing As A Pitching Prospect. For every top-rated pitching prospect who goes on to become an ace, there are five that flame out either in the minors or in brief appearances in the majors. Some, like David Clyde or the Mets Super Trio, are more famous for failure than someone like Kris Benson (a No. 1 overall pick) was in success.
That bit of baseball wisdom applied doubly to relief prospects. Relievers at the big league level are often thought of as eminently replaceable, simply because they are. For every Mariano Rivera, there is a Mike Magnante or Xavier Hernandez. Relievers have so few innings in each season that success and failure often live a razor's edge away from each other. Then, there is the injury factor.
Why do I bring all this up? What's the point of repeating things you already know? Well, I was going over some articles from last spring training the other day and saw how much confidence we placed in the bullpen depth, both at the major league level and in the minors. With Sammy Gervacio undergoing yet another surgery on his arm, that depth has all but dried up. After the jump, we'll look at where it went and what went wrong.
Let's review just how many young, promising relievers the Astros had going into last seasonAlberto Arias -Injured early in the season, put on 60-day DL coming out of spring training
Jeff Fulchino -Missed a month with elbow soreness, only threw 47 innings. Had surgery in October.
Chris Sampson - Ineffectiveness grew as season went on. Released after the season.
Wesley Wright -Conversion to a starter bombed, though he did start four games in the majors.
Danny Meszaros -Suspended for PED use.
Chia-jen Lo -Elbow surgery ended his season before it began.
Matt Nevarez -Did not take step forward. ERA solid but peripherals were terrible.
Sammy Gervacio - Surgery derailed his 2010 season. Was taken off 40-man roster
Wilton Lopez - Made team out of spring training after short, bad stint in 2009. Became setup man by end of season.
Henry Villar - 68 strikeouts in 102 innings got him a big-league promotion. Threw six innings in September with 3 Ks.
Out of 10 guys, only one hit with another showing good progress. Those are not the odds we were hoping for last spring. Wilton Lopez was a success story, but if Ed Wade doesn't sign Brandon Lyon and trade for Matt Lindstrom, that bullpen would have been a wreck.
That's kind of the point, I guess, about relief prospects. As good as we felt about Lo and Meszaros, injuries and other situations do crop up. I certainly wouldn't have predicted Henry Villar would be vying for a roster spot over those guys a year ago, but there he is.
I don't like Wade's constant acquisition of relief prospects. As much potential as I think Mark Melancon, David Carpenter and Aneury Rodriguez have, there is just no margin in betting on relievers. Depth today won't necessarily help tomorrow, though I don't think the Astros will run through another spell of bad luck like they did in 2010.
In the next couple of weeks, we'll break down who's got the best shot to make the Opening Day roster, but for now, who were you most surprised didn't hit? Who has the best chance to bounce back?
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I don’t like Wade’s constant acquisition of relief prospects
Actually I thought your article is an good argument for acquiring as many reliever prospects as possible. You need to maintain a huge pool of these pitchers given the probabilities of injury, performance breakdown, etc., among relief prospects. Otherwise you are stuck building a bullpen through free agent signings, which is not a cost effective strategy.
I guess my biggest concern is value. Picking up relievers in trades (like the Berkman deal) seems like a waste of potential. Picking up guys off waivers (Del Rosario) or by draft (Rule 5 or otherwise) is a better bet, and I don’t mind that. Obviously, Wade’s talents in finding relievers turned the Astros bullpen into a strength the past two seasons, even with a complete change in relievers.
So, I guess what I should have said was I don’t like it, but if he’s not paying too much, it’s solid general managing.
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by David Coleman on Jan 18, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
I understand what you’re saying. I guess Melancon is the main subject of concern. Melancon had the reputation as “closer in waiting” for the Yankees. Given the eventual cost of closers either in arbitration or free agency, Melancon probably had more than ordinary relief pitcher value. If the Astros had a choice between Melancon and good starting pitcher prospect, but chose Melancon, I can see some second guessing. But we don’t know if the Yankees provided that opportunity.
Carpenter also came in a trade, but I was pleasantly surprised that we got any player of value for Feliz. It seems like the rest were waiver claims or Rule 5 picks.
I wouldn’t say I was surprised at any of the prospects who didn’t pan out, since the reasons are all reasonable. Injuries are a common thing, which makes the struggles of Arias, Fulchino, Gervacio, and Lo all fairly predictable. Sampson was always a fringe guy in my book anyway, so his struggles didn’t catch me off guard. Wright was making the conversion to starting, which is always a risky venture, so I wasn’t expecting him to dominate straight away. In fact, I wouldn’t say Wright is a bust, yet. Nevarez had command issues before, so that aspect of his game shouldn’t have been a surprise to anyone. I guess I might’ve expected more out of Meszaros, and the PED issue wasn’t something I ever would’ve predicted, but that said, he has moved up quickly and still has plenty of time to revive his status, and he wasn’t expected to contribute in Houston last year anyway.
I agree with Clack that this post is more of an argument in favor of acquiring as many reliever prospects as you can, given their unpredictability. I think if you look at the projected farm system, the pitching depth is one of the strengths. It’s not as top-heavy as most would like, but the depth is there. Here’s my list of possible relievers who have the potential to contribute in HOuston at some point in 2011:
Melancon
Villar
Abad
Aristil
Arguello
Del Rosario
Wright
Escalona
Arias
Gervacio
Meszaros
Leon
Lo
Nevarez
Carpenter
Urckfitz
Keuchel
Greenwalt
Pendleton
Rodriguez
Wolf
None of those guys are top 100 prospect types, but they all have the resume which shows they stil have life in their development/careers/trajectory, and it’s a lengthy list.
Can’t really call any besides meszaros a surprise, especially lo. Lo is so small and throws so hard that I wasn’t surprised. The meszaros thing still aggravates me. It’s such a political move on mlb’s part because the balco guy patented it. Heck, I take in methylhanamine all the time because it’s simply a stimulant that is found in nearly half of pre-workouts now. Sure it’s a rule but it is a terrible banned substance list and meszaros wasn’t given all the tools to protect himself. So because I know that it had nothing to do with his performance I’m confident he’ll rebound very well. He’ll start off slow because he doesn’t get spring training but he’ll be alright
by Subber10 on Jan 18, 2011 2:43 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Im still high on Gervacioand and Arias
I hope they rebound nicely and return to form. Surprised?, I would have to say Abad was the nicest surprise. He came up with a slower more control oriented style and I thought he would get crushed but I think overall he did well. Rebound?, I think Fulchino has the potential to rebound. He has a hard fastball but gets hit around a lot. Ive never been a big fan of his but I think he could put it together and have a good season. Potential?, I like Melancon. He is really erratic with his command but I see potential. I like what I hear about An-Rod.
by Its Gonna Happen on Jan 18, 2011 6:49 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Not sure any of those guys were really young & promising. To the extent that Lo or Mezaros got any hype it was largely a function of the Astros weak prospect depth.
As for Melancon, I agree a starting prospect probably would have been better, but I don’t think there was a robust market for Berkman.
And I’d rather have the GM acquiring relief prospects than throwing silly money at guys like Soriano or Benoit. He’s actually shown restraint in letting Valverde, Hawkins, Lindstrom, and Byrdak go when they got too expensive.

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