TCB Coming Straight To Your Ears In First Podcast
by David Coleman on Sep 7, 2010 7:00 AM CDT
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PrintThat's right. We did it. Seemed like all the other cool kids were doing things like a podcast, so we decided there's nothing you TCB readers would like more than to hear more of our opinions. But, instead of just reading about them, you can take us anywhere you want and listen to us talk about the Astros farm system in this very first TCB Podcast.
As part of this Prospect Week, we wanted to kick things off with a discussion on the list of prospects the writers graded. That podcast turned into nearly three hours of material, so we're splitting things up.
First up, today's podcast talks about the list in general and some of the prospects from the past couple of seasons who made the list. We also discuss the virtues of Omar Epps' style in Major League II, if Corpus Christi could be a Triple-A affiliate and more.
Check out the TCB Podcast No. 1 Part 1 here. Look for another post Wednesday with Part Two, where we discuss the 2010 first-round picks, minor league defensive numbers and lots of geeky stats talk. We should also have an iTunes subscription set up sometime soon, but apparently, we have to post audio content here first. The nerve of Apple...
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Where’s the iTunes/syndication feed?
The Crawfishboxes
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
I didn't read a sentence more
And ended up needlessly rushing the snark.
The Crawfishboxes
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by Stephen Higdon on Sep 7, 2010 7:14 AM CDT up reply actions
overall very good
might want to tinker with microphones, but that’s a minor point.
60-70 minutes baby crying in background.
On bench guys, I think it helps to have one or two vets, and I’d be happy to re-sign Michaels just to have a veteran presence there.
Yeah, my microphone wound up being more tinny and not-so-good than I was expecting. I’ll try to get a better one before our next podcast. Of course the next parts of the prospect discussion will have the same problems because we did it all in one sitting.
And those were the lungs of my son carrying through two different closed doors. All just little kinks we’ll work out as we go.
I’m a simple man. I like pretty, dark-haired women and breakfast foods.
--Ron F'ing Swanson
by David Coleman on Sep 7, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
While we were doing it, I didn’t notice any baby crying.
I was worried though that when my mic was unmuted that my wifes watching of teen mom might pick up.
by Timothy De Block on Sep 7, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Moving back to the content
I know this has been talked about till the cows come home, but a few more points occured to me after listening to you guys on the issue of Jordan Lyles’ trajectory through the minor leagues.
If Lyles is on course for a September-ish call up in 2011, then his path would roughly equate to Jason Hirsh’s.
The difference being (I think) that Hirsh was drafted after College (I realise there is not much comparison with their stuff).
What troubles me more and more is that the Astros seemed to have locked Lyles on a path to the majors in 2012, or at least that is my perception of it. If we focus too much on results and say to Lyles, now in 2011 you are at AAA and you are auditioning for a major league role, success might push his pitch development to the background, and as most of you mentioned, he still needs to develop a few things.
I’d much rather he come up to the majors in 2013 as a more rounded pitcher, than come up in 2012, struggle, and see his progression knocked back a step or two.
Just depends how he's doing
The nice thing about having a 19-year old top prospect in AAA is that he has all the time in the world (or at least it feels that way) to work on things against the toughest competition in the minor leagues.
Whenever he is ready to be an above average contributor in a major league starting rotation, that’s when I’d like to see him come up. That could be June of next year or it could be June 2013. Most likely it will be somewhere in between those two—probably more like September 2011 or spring training 2012.
Unfortunately the Astros may not treat him that way. I would be disappointed and frustrated if he won the #5 starter job out of spring training next season, but I wouldn’t be shocked.
The problem with sticking him at AAA for 2 years now
is that you’ve been aggressive with promoting him through the minor leagues up to this point.
It might lead to disappointment on the players part, or stagnation skills-wise.
Good man-management from AAA staff will be required to prevent this if he does stay in the minors for that long.
My only question is how could they have handled him differently? He destroyed the South Atlantic League in 2009, so the Astros moved him up to Double-A as a challenge. He was one of the best pitchers in the Texas League in 2010 and got moved up to Round Rock late in the season. I don’t think the Astros have locked him into a path so much as responded to his performance level. But, I also agree that he’ll probably be pushing the rotation next season if he’s halfway decent, just to keep people excited about this team. That’s the mistake.
I’m a simple man. I like pretty, dark-haired women and breakfast foods.
--Ron F'ing Swanson
by David Coleman on Sep 7, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Is the major leagues the right place for him to develop
from say a no.4 to a no.2 starter?
Jon Lester might be a good comparison.
working with Brad Arnsberg, why not?
I think you’re now getting into more of a psychological thing, and whether or not he can handle the jump to the major leagues. This would be something the front office would have to determine considering they’ll have the most contact with him. If they were tempted to call him up this September the indication would seem they think he’d be able to handle the jump.
by Timothy De Block on Sep 7, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
In retrospect, I think that it may have been a bad idea to move him up to AAA at the end of this season. I think they may have created a situation where he could feel pressure (from himself, fans, etc.) to win a spot in the majors out of spring training, and become disappointed if he doesn’t. I am not sure that his experience in AAA this season has accomplished much—other than raise questions. A full season in AAA next season might look different to Lyles if this season had been devoted only to AA.
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