The Brett Wallace Debate
If you’ve read the comments the past couple weeks you’ll notice that a bit of a debate broke out regarding Brett Wallace’s playing time. With Wallace struggling, Brad Mills has pinch-hit for or started someone else for Wallace on several occasions. I don’t plan to rehash the entire debate, nor pick one side or the other, but I will go over both points of view briefly.
On one side, there are those who believe Wallace should be given every opportunity to play. He’s an exciting young player and he still needs time to develop. Sitting on the bench and being pinch hit for in no way helps his development. The team is not going to accomplish anything this season, so giving Wallace as much playing time as possible will help his development.
The other side believes that if Wallace isn’t producing he should be sitting. It was thrown around on other blogs, a few weeks ago, that maybe Wallace should be sent back to the minors. Carlos Lee has filled in admirably at first in a couple starts both offensively and defensively. Keeping Wallace on the bench means he won’t lose confidence in key high pressure situations.
I was strongly on the side that believed he should be given every opportunity to start, and in fact wrote a post about it. As you probably noticed that post never saw day light. Something didn’t feel right about the and, instead of going with my heart on the I decided to go with my head and do a little research.
Brad Mills as you know served as the Boston Red Sox bench coach from 2004-2009. There was another young player who struggled during Mills tenure with the Red Sox. Terry Francona stuck with this player even when the player probably deserved to be shipped back to the minors. That player eventually rewarded Francona especially in 2008 when said player won the AL MVP. I’m sure by now you’ve figured out who I am talking about, second baseman Dustin Pedroia. In his first thirty one games he batted to the tune of a .191/.258/.303 slash line. That’s an on base plus slugging percentage adjusted for park factors (OPS+) of 42. The average player has an OPS+ of 100, so 42 is well below average.
The first 27 games of 2007 Pedroia continued to struggle and had a .180 batting average. The remainder of that season he batted .336/.391/.471 slash line. Finishing 2007 with an OPS+ of 112, while also winning the Rookie of the Year award. With that in mind, I decided to see how Terry Francona handled Dustin Pedroia, and to find out if there’s some method to Mills madness.
Pedroia came up in 2006 and played in thirty one games for the Red Sox. Boston would finish with an 89-76 record in 2006, good for third place in the AL East. It’s pretty safe to assumed that the Red Sox were a long shot to make the playoffs when Pedroia was called up. Which may explain why he was allowed to play through some of his struggles in a town like Boston, who consistently contend for a World Series appearance. He sat for 7 of the 38 games he was on the team. In the 31 games he did participate he completed 20 of those. The other 11 he only played a part time role, and in 2 of those 11 games in which the game was close he was pinch hit for.
In comparison Brett Wallace has completed 19 of 32 games he’s been with the Astros. He’s been sat for 3 games and has been pinch hit for in 4 close games. For those of you keeping score at home that means he’s played part time in 10 games. He currently has a slash line of .207/.309/.244 for an OPS+ of 52. He’s struggled at the level Pedroia did in 2006, and how the managers have handled each individual player is telling.
Wallace has completed and played part time in almost exactly as many games as Pedroia in lesser games. Meaning Wallace is on pace to complete more games than Pedroia did. Wallace has played slightly better than Pedrioa did in 2006, which explains why he’ll of completed more games. Being pinch hit for in close games though is a bit interesting. Wallace to this point has already been pinch hit for 4 times while Pedroia was only pinch hit for twice.
I’d make the argument though that the 2006 Red Sox with a better offensive team may explain this. In 2006 the Red Sox scored 820 runs, the Astros so far this season have scored 500 and I don’t think they’ll make up that 300+ difference in the final month of the season. The lack of offense on the Astros part means theirs more pressure to pinch hit for a hitter hovering around the Mendoza Line.
I think it’s fair to say that Francona has had an influence on how Mills handles his young players.Both players were given plenty of opportunities to start. When they struggled they sat, or in some games played part time roles. This is good news for both sides of the argument. If you’re frustrated with Wallace’s play, you will seen him sat here or there with Lee making a start. In high leverage situations he’ll be pinch hit for an in attempt to win the game. While those frustrated with Mill’s handling of Wallace can be assured that he will be given every opportunity to succeed in this season and all of next season.
In 2007 Pedroia struggled mightily to begin the season. Up to May 12th He was pinch hit for 8 times in close games. After May 12th when Pedroia started producing he was never pinch hit for again in 2007, and completed 114 games. In 2008 he was not pinch hit for once in the entire season, and completed 147 games. Mills appears to be following the same blueprint for dealing with struggling young players. After looking at Pedroia case it doesn’t seem like a bad way of handling young players. Those of us high on Wallace can be rest assured that he will be given opportunities to succeed both the rest of this year, and next year.
I think there is a middle ground to be had on the debate. Winning is good, it’s good for the morale, it’s good for building confidence, and it’s good for the fans. The first half of the season tested even the most patient of us. We have been rewarded in the second half with both improved play and a new direction. The organization took the first steps in that new direction, and there’s a lot of excitement to be had in the youth of this team. Which is why being patient with both the young players and coaching staff is so important. They’re the future and while I’ve been upset with the way Mills has handled the young players, the fact of the matter is he’s using a proven method. Wallace has been and will be given every opportunity to succeed. It’s up to him to produce and prove to everyone that he can be that everyday player.
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Wallace has to stop swinging while striding/being late getting his foot down. His swing takes about 20% too long from first move of the bathead into the swing plane till contact as a result. It’s really impressive he’s produced as well as he has with this swing. I think it indicates he could be a big deal if he fixes his swing. But as is, he’s going to be what you see in my opinion.
Another way to explain it is, he generally doesn’t fully shift his pelvis into his front heel and he generally starts swinging the bat too long before heel plant. Look at the front heel in relation to the center of gravity/pelvis on this clip below. Then look at the rear foot. Then watch Wallace swing. Digging deeper, note how the pelvis rotates more around the front hip joint in this swing. Compare to Wallace. If you can get a Wallace clip you can open in quicktime, step it through frame by frame and you will see what I mean about how early he starts swinging the bat compared to what his body is doing. He’s out of sequence. The kinetic chain can’t do it’s job so he’s 20% long in his swing so he’s having to start his swing sooner than elite hitters which means he has less information about where the @#$% ball is going to be when it gets to where he wants to contact it so he’s going to be inconsistent.
Here's Project Prospect's article on the subject
They don’t seem as concerned about it as you do; they think him staying back can be an advantage for him if he improves his weight shift.
To say, they think him staying back can be an advantage for him if he improves his weight shift is a contradiction. He’s taking staying back to an extreme. If he improves his weight shift and times it better with the start of the bat into the swing plane he can be great imo. Right now his swing isn’t going to cut it at this level. If a Manzella had this swing maybe so but first base has to be an elite swing.
Uh Oh
Look who fixed his swing. http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100907&content_id=14400606&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou
Check the timing of his heel plant versus when his bat started into the swing plane and check the back foot. Note he got off his back side so the pelvic rotation was much better. If he keeps this up he will be a big deal imo.
Good points.
Commenting on the article, you did some good work, Timmy. Many great hitters started off their major league careers weakly. (The famous story about Willy Mays starting his career with a long 0-for is repeated a lot because Leo Durocher told a depressed Mays that he would start in CF even if he never got a hit—which gave Mays the dose of confidence he needed.) I don’t think the decision to give Wallace occasional time off is due to his poor early batting stats. I think the desire to experiment with Lee at 1st base and give other players some starts is a more likely factor. I do think that Mills believes that young players who are struggling can benefit from occasionally watching the game from the bench. He did that with Manzella early in the year when Manzo went through long hitless periods. Sometimes hitters need to clear their head, and as Bagwell has stressed, hitters can learn a lot by watching the game (what pitchers are throwing, how batters are responding, etc.). Manzella has said he feels like he benefitted from watching the game closely during his injury. Wallace isn’t going to be buried by Mills; he will get plenty of opportunities this season.
Wallace in a recent MLB.com article also said that he felt the time off in the Mets series was good for him.
by Timothy De Block on Sep 3, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
The only thing that I personally don’t really like is that it seems like Mills is cherry picking games versus lefties for Wallace to sit. I completely understand the reasoning, put Lee at 1B and play J Mike, a RH. I am just concerned as to how this will effect Wallace’s development as a whole.
I agree that’s probably something I’m still a bit annoyed at, but I think the fact of that matter is if Wallace is hitting he’ll play against both righties and lefties.
by Timothy De Block on Sep 3, 2010 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Factor in playing time for Lee, Bourgeois and Michaels
I"m assuming Lance Berkman will not return to the Astros next season and that Carlos Lee will.
An aging Carlos Lee will not get faster. It looks like Mills is considering moving Lee to first on the road at parks with bigger left fields. Get the routine down now is a sensible move. (plus there’s no guarantee the Pedroia scenario will be the Wallace scenario even though I think almost everyone believes Brett Wallace will make a successful transition).
Brad Mills likes to start all his players in at least some games. Moving Lee to first in larger parks (and currently at times when Astros face left handers, he’ll put Bourgeois or Michaels in left (or center)). While he’ll est Lee on soemigames, currently Lee’s bat is mandatory in the line up.
My overall assessment is that Astro could bave left Wallace in AAA, but chose to move him immediately to the major leagues. He’s getting more major league experience now than he would have if still in th eToronto organization. He’s beter off,
Brad “Chalupa” Mills seems to know what he is doing. Wallace seems okay with the situation. So am I.
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Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 3, 2010 11:23 AM CDT reply actions
Another factor to keep in mind is that if Wallace does start producing you could see Lee sitting more instead of Wallace. Lee is having a resurgence in the later part of this season, but his career is still on the decline while Wallace is on the way up. So in bigger ball parks Mills may just chose to sit Lee especially if Wallace is producing.
by Timothy De Block on Sep 3, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
i think the benching thing is used as a learning tool. coaching will work with you on a few things then they will put you on the side to watch and absorb. the bad, hes watching lee at first, the good, bagwell is in the dugout. as far as his swing goes, i think its a work in process. its a small sample size with wallace since we have been able to watch him. when he is on and hitting the ball to gaps his body is quiet his weight is back and his hands are quick. when hes off his weight is all over the place and his swing is long. which would be yet, another reason to bench once and awhile, it keeps you from developing and entrenching those bad habits until the swing is consistent all the time.
I believe that this offseason is the only time the Astros will have a window to possibly trade Lee without him being able to completey veto a trade. Lee showing he can play first base is only going to help his trade value. I think the Astros will try to trade Lee in the offseason. Hopefully they will succeed and got out from under as much of his contract as they can.
I hope
the Astros just let Castro and Wallace play in 2011, and allow them to get on with it.
I would be happy with any major salary dump for Lee. He hit .333 DH ing in 7 games this season, I’m not sure if that means anything.
I appreciate all this stuff on Wallace’s swing, but presumably if you guys know about it, so does the coaching staff?
I agree with Mills
People disagree with benching a young player.. I don’t because its motivation. If you are getting pulled it means you are not helping this team win and until you show the manager you should be in in clutch hitting situations then you should be pulled its all about the team mentality.
As a young guy it can be hard mentally to handle the ups and downs as well as your own ego. I think young players who are phenoms sometimes have ego struggles look at Hanley Ramirez earlier this year, I feel if you humble a young guy early on no matter how good his potential is, you and the kid are rewarded when you take the leash off because getting key opportunities means more. You realize the gravity of the situation more and it builds a team chemistry as you get pulled you rally around the guy and say wait and then you see him deliver in those situations and you all share in that moment.
Kudos for making Brett Wallace earn his chances Brad Mills.
Also for those guys who feel he should have more hip turn.. I agree but lets wait till after the season is over before we start tooling with his swing I think that is where you can make changes to your swing and come out next year with it being more natural than having him start tinkering now..
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