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Another off-day, another post. 

Sometimes people seem to forget that baseball is played by two teams, and a fan should always guard against expecting their team to win every night. The Astros make it difficult on their fan base because they are either stone cold or red hot, with little in-between. 

What made the recent Phillies series so special is the arrogance of some of the Phillie Phanatic towards the four-game set. They misjudged where the Astros were in relation to themselves, and needing to gain some ground on the NL East leading Atlanta Braves, being swept by Houston was a bitter pill to swallow. 

It is very easy when you watch a team for 162 games and only see another team for three, six, or even 15 to know very little about the team you are playing, glance at their W-L record and expect to win. As a fan, you could be forgiven for doing that, but not a sports writer. 

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That's why this article, written after the second game of the season so infuriated me. Most of it is a rant at the officiating for tossing Ryan Howard, and missing the call on Michael Bourn's bunt-single, but it takes a swipe at the Astros, wondering out loud what was more humiliating- the poor umpiring or watching the "offensive powerhouse known as the Phillies.....score just four runs in 25 innings to the lowly  Houston (Triple A) Astros."

The article spends a good amount of time bashing the arrogance of umpires, but a commenter muses, "You make several references to the arrogance of the umpires, after starting off by calling the Astros a AAA team and acting like the Phillies are simply above losing to them."

The author's excuse is then "this is a Philly website" and that they "should not be losing to a team with a $50-60 million dollar (sic) payroll," and "If you're back to back NL Champs, yes, you are supposed to beat up on these teams."

Is that an excuse for treating your opposition like a punching bag, shipped into town to lie down and take a beating? Not really. It ignores basic facts, like the Astros are now 16-7 at Citizens Bank Park, or are the only NL team to have a winning record against the Phillies since 2004, in large part because they failed to record a single victory against Houston in 2004 or 2005. You can only beat what is in front of you, and while having  to state the obvious, if you don't play better than your opposition, you will lose.

The Astros are now nine games under .500, eight behind second place St. Louis, and tied for third with the Brewers in the NL Central. They had an abysmal start, but since June 1st (a stretch of 82 games, over half a season), they have played 45-37 ball. Not bad at all. 

Take the Astros recent series with the Mets. The series looked evenly poised going into the deciding third game until most of us realised it was R.A. Dickey facing us. Frustrating as it was to be shut down by a guy pitching at 70 miles per hour, having seen the knuckleballer match Brett Myers two weeks earlier it was hardly surprising. 

The Cardinals had the same problems as the Phillies a week earlier, they came into a series with the Astros, whose starting pitching has been superb lately, with a lineup full of slumping hitters (and Pedro Feliz, he does not count as a hitter). Yet they knew what they were facing in the Astros, having played 12 games against them already in 2010. 

Any given day any team has a chance to win. The Orioles, who started the season 2-16 recently swept the Angels, and on the road too. They allowed just one run all series, and doubtless this will perturb Angels fans', swept by a team that has a terrible run-differential and is currently 35 games under .500, but they have averaged just 3.7 runs in the last two months, while Baltimore is 17-11 under Buck Showalter.

No team has a divine right to win, something fans, and especially writers should always bear in mind. 

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How good is your knowledge of other teams?
clued up on both leagues
54 votes
good knowledge of NL
42 votes
Sketchy outside of the NL Central
33 votes
Only follow the Astros
15 votes

144 votes | Poll has closed

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In dealing with fans that say the Astros are a minor league team the only response should be.

Scoreboard.

The Cardinals have had an issue this year with teams below .500. Just in the NL Central they’ve lost: 10 out of 15 to the Astros, 5 out of 9 against the Cubs, 6 out of 12 to the Brewers. Outside the NL Central they lost a series to the Royals, got swept by the Rockies, split a four game series with the Marlins.

The Phillies just got outplayed, I know people want to talk about some of their players coming off the DL. The Phillies had won the previous six series, before the Astros came to town, and swept the Padres after Houston beat them like a rented mule. Using injury excuses and bad umpiring is weak. For a city that prides itself on being tough they’re the spoiled little kid that throws a hissy fit when things don’t go their way.

by Timothy De Block on Sep 2, 2010 7:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Injuries, umpires, and the weather affect all teams…it’s definitely not an excuse, especially for a 4 game sweep at your home field.

by cactusjake on Sep 2, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Too many people treat that call on the Bourn-Howard play as an obvious blown call. I didn’t see it that way. It was a very close call which could have gone either way. Sure, it’s frustrating if you are a Phillies’ fan, but close calls happen all the time.

by clack on Sep 2, 2010 8:31 AM CDT reply actions  

And that’s only one game. As professionals, they can’t let that bother for a 4 game set.

by cactusjake on Sep 2, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

A Philly fan was raging:

WTF, Bourn was 2 feet off the path!!??

Of course, he didn’t know that Bourn is allowed 3 feet off the path per the rulebook. My point is that any unbiased fan would at least see the call as questionable.

He thought the wind generated by his bat would carry the ball out of the park. --Braves fan comments on Ryan Howard's 0-7, 5K night vs HOU

by RocketsAstros on Sep 2, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

That’s probably brought about by the inconsistent exercising of that rule. I think its also complicated by considerations if a runner runs inside the base line.

by ol Pete on Sep 2, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

How many Astros fans are Phillisized already?

How many Astros fans assume the Astros will waltz into Phoeniz this weekend and beat the lowly Diamondbacks like a drum ?- After all the D’Backs are a lowly 55-79 and the Astros are on a roll.

I don’t follow the Diamondbacks closely but they had a winning record in August and are 6-1 in their last seven games- games against contenders San Francisco Giants and San Diego Padres. The pitcher (Daniel Hudson – who?) Friday night is 4-1 with a 1.85 ERA. He’s pitched at least 7 innings in each of his games with Phoenix.

Offensively, Arizona scored 54 runs total in their last 7 games against two pretty good pitching staffs, even scoring 7 in their only loss in that stretch

Yet many Astros fans will see only the name Arizona Diamondbacks; the D-Backs’ terrible overall record, and that they are deep in the basement in the NL West, and assume Astros will take at least 2 of 3 from them.

As Shakespeare or some other notable scribe once wrote, “No team has a divine right to win, something fans, and especially writers[,] should always bear in mind.”

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 2, 2010 9:13 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't think anything like that in baseball

I don’t know why any fan or writer would assume his home team will win X number of games in a small sample size. You never know what is going to happen in this sport over a short period. Things don’t start to balance out until you get to much larger sample sizes, like a full season. Even then, random variation (luck) can tilt things quite a bit.

It’s frustrating when you get beat up by a team with a worse record, but pointing to that and saying “we should have won those games!” is silly. In this sport, you are going to lose some games to bad teams, and beat up on some teams better than your own, over the course of a season.

by OremLK on Sep 2, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

To illustrate your point, I think the Pirates have won 44 games and about 10 of them have been from the Cubs.

hee hee

by ol Pete on Sep 2, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another one – the cruising Reds have been swept by the Mariners. Watched them this last series and they got their mojo working. Scrubs, rookies and whoever is swinging hard, taking defensive risks, whatever and its working. Mariners are pretty bad.

by ol Pete on Sep 2, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t take for granted that the Astros will win any series, whether the D-Backs or Pirates. The Astros aren’t good enough to make me feel that way. And in the case of the D-Backs, I don’t know why any Astros’ fans would assume a win, when the Astros historically have had trouble with them, particularly in Arizona. Some of their hitters, like Mark Reynolds, must wait for the Astros to show up, because they feast on Astros pitching.

by clack on Sep 2, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think something could be said for expecting wins in the NL Central considering the Astros have a pretty good record in the division.

by Timothy De Block on Sep 2, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Never expect them to win every day

What frustrates me is when I see them playing so well and then go lay an egg or seem totally befuddled.

I enjoy consistent, quality baseball and that’s what these guys are providing right now. All I expect in Arizona is playing up to their potential and hopefully that translates to a series win.

by cactusjake on Sep 2, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here's a hint of what I mean, from Chronicle's Chip Bailey

Fresh from a three-game sweep of St. Louis, the Astros are now headed into a six-game stretch to face lowly Arizona and Chicago, both teams which are, to say the least, struggling

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 2, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

It’s Chip Bailey if you want bad insight he’s your go to guy.

by Timothy De Block on Sep 2, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

54 runs in their last 7 games?

We’ve scored 58 in our last 19 games (3.1 r/G), and somehow gone 13-6.

by AstroB on Sep 2, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a side note

Dan Hudson was almost certainly the centerpiece of the White Sox offer for Prince Fielder. Melvin said his scouts viewed him as a #3 or #4 starter. He and some “mid level prospects” wasn’t good enough to do a deal. He and his 6 years of control were traded for Edwin Jackson and, I believe, his final 2 years of arb. EJ wasn’t doing well in the NL, but is rocking and rolling in the AL.

by ol Pete on Sep 2, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I voted that I only follow the Astros, but my cousin is a Mariners fan, and we keep each other informed on our teams.

"In the biographies of men and nations, success often arrives in a mask of failure"

by hunterpencefan on Sep 2, 2010 1:52 PM CDT reply actions  

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