As the deadline draws near, should the Astros need to be 'overwhelmed' to trade Myers and/or Wandy?
by Stephen Higdon on Jul 31, 2010 12:26 PM CDT
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Trading Lance Berkman and Roy Oswalt for underwhelming packages and paying a large chunk of their contracts has clearly not been a splash move amongst a number of us. The debate over whether the ends justify the means has and will continue to take place amongst ourselves. However, one thing that I think both proponents and opponents have managed to agree on, is that the haul our two franchise icons brought in was not overwhelming.
I find myself in the camp that believes the underwhelming haul was to be expected and that getting some money off the books and some propsects in return is a better result than holding still. Given that Wade was tasked with trading two players who had total control over their destinies, I am not sure what more Wade could have gotten in these deals. With Oswalt, the only debate I think that is left is whether Wade should have waited until to the offseason because the return might have been better. WIth Berkman, it apparently was the Yankees or bust and there was no real option to hold onto him any longer.
Those deals are behind us, though, and pretty much in the books. Today we are left with to sift through the rumors surrounding Wandy Rodriguez and Brett Myers. Both players have been said to be generating offers from other teams and Ed Wade is listening. The word on the Twitter, though, is that for Myers Ed Wade requires that he be overwhelemed by the package and a source with knowledge of the negotiations indicated that Wade has yet to hear what he wants RE: Wandy.
No teams have been specified, so it is hard to even begin imagining what is being bandied about in terms of potential packages. But the question I have been mulling over all morning is whether Ed Wade should really have to be overwhelmed to trade either player?
Brett Myers has to be the most attractive pitcher left on the market. Myers is owed nothing, is eating innings, and those innings he is eating are high caliber innings. Could a team in contention really ask for a better half season rental? Myers relative value to Wade is raised further given that he is now the de facto ace of the Astros rotation, about the only guaranteed starter to take stress off the bullpen, pressure off our younger arms, and someone who is reportedly aimable to staying in Houston next year on the cheap to continue to do everything I just listed.
I think Ed Wade is making the right call in needing to be bowled away to pull the trigger on a deal for Myers. Even though Wade sold low on Oswalt and Berkman, he still has injected some life into the farm system and reduced payroll obligations in 2011. While it would be nice to continue to bringing in prospects, given Myers ability to still provide surplus value for the Astros, there is no reason for Wade to accept anything less than Myers true value in a trade.
Wandy Rodriguez, however, is a bit more complicated, in my opinion. Trading Wandy now would definitely be selling low. Although he as left handed throwing hominid, who was an elite pitcher in 2009, I cannot imagine that the returns would be great for him—even given that is salary is very palatable. I do not want Wandy Rodriguez traded today unless the package is solid to superb. If Ed Wade is OK with trading Wandy, I think he would be better served in waiting until the offseason to do so. Wandy seems to have found his stride as of late, and if he continues to do so for the rest of 2010, his trade stock will rebuild and hopefully fetch a much better return.
So to answer my own question, yes, I think Ed Wade should need to be knocked over with a feather to trade either Brett Myers are Wandy Rodriguez in the next two and half hours. There is no reason for him to sell low anymore this deadline.
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With Ted Lilly in demand
I don’t see why Wade isn’t getting any decent offers for Myers. I smell Drayton interference on this one.
I don't know about that
I think Wade really, really likes Myers.
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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 31, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe some teams prefer a LHP that much, or they just like Lilly better. I remember that “AL scout’s” comment after Lilly’s last start that “Lilly is better than Oswalt because he has ‘bigger balls.’” Not only is that view inexplicable, but it makes me question the subjectivity of scouting.
That is ludicrous
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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 31, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
In answer to the article’s question about “Need to be overwhelmed, etc.”
I say “yes,” I like that stance, particularly after seeing that the Astros got the low end of potential value in the Berkman, Oswalt trade. Given an interpretation of that comment based on what the Astros have done so far, that indicates to me that “need to be overwhelmed” just means that the value has to be good, rather than really overwhelming.
That's an interesting thought
RE: Good not actually overwhelming.
I think that’s probably true for Wandy, but I think Myers actually would have to be overwhelming.
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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 31, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe not a major league ready set of prospects
But we need someone who can be up by 2011-2012 at the earliest. If we could get 2 prospects apiece for them (at least one an arm) that would be nice.
Watch Keppinger today. Braves 2B Prado broke his knuckle, and I could see Kepp being flipped for a solid pitching prospect.
B^2
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Good catch on Prado.
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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 31, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
well
I think we sold low because of the press on roy. When players want to be traded it can really ruin the value of a trade especially with so many contract obligations doled out to each of those players. you have to sell low when everyone knows you are selling.. Thats why nobody makes money on a garage sale..
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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 31, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 31, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Ed Wade shouldn't trade either if this is the market
Lilly and Theriot for DeWitt — #Cubs to #Dodgers is done
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Supposed to be one other player involved in the deal
Curious who that is. If it’s a top pitching prospect or something along those lines, the deal looks a lot better for Cubbies.
Looks like Cubs will get DeWitt(2b) and 2 young pitching prospects back for Lilly/Theriot
by BrewCongdon-GTA on Jul 31, 2010 1:15 PM CDT reply actions
....sorry, twitter from J Stark below
jaysonst: Deal done. #Cubs sending Lilly & Theriot to Cubs for Blake DeWitt & minor lgers Brett Walch & Kyle Smit. LA also gets $2.5M. #trades [via Twitter]
by BrewCongdon-GTA on Jul 31, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Based on this, I have no option but to revise my beliefs.
It now appears that the Astros got a tremendous amount of return for both Oswalt and Berkman. Media writers should be clamoring about how the Astros were comparatively able to decimate the Phillies, Blue Jays, and the Yankees. It is nice to know that no matter how bad things are, no matter how destitute, no matter how dark the future seems – there is always the Cubs.
by kdm59 on Jul 31, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Comment of the trade deadline
It is nice to know that no matter how bad things are, no matter how destitute, no matter how dark the future seems – there is always the Cubs.
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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 31, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
#Astros will now be starting 4 rookies regularly: 1B Brett Wallace, 3B Chris Johnson, C Jason Castro, SS Angel Sanchez/Tommy Manzella
Well, our Astros are beginning to look like a AAA super squad
There are 60 games left (I think)
What do you guys think there record will be the rest of the season?
I’m gonna say 34-26
I'd say 2-3 games below .500
But with some luck they could do just the opposite over.
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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 31, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I certainly do not want them to tank games,
but I am hoping they struggle mightyly in the rest of the season. This year’s draft could net us a tremendous prospect, if we are in the top 3-4. In fact, I hope Seattle and Baltimore go on 20 game winning streaks, and we get #1.
My guess is 26-34.
Looking at their schedule they have 8 v. MIL/ 6 v STL/ 6 v CIN/ 4 v PHI/ 4 v LAD/ 3 v ATL/ 3 v FLA (34 games total)
We’ve got 7 v NYM/ 6 v PIT/ 6 v CHI/ 4 v WAS/ 3 v ARZ (26 games total)
by BrewCongdon-GTA on Jul 31, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Since callups
They are 17-15, but without Berkman and Oswalt (but with Happ), I reckon we’ll come in just under .500 28-32
I hope the Stros are pulling a Miami Heat...
Maybe Cuban buys the Stros and we sign Crawford(29), Cliff Lee(32), and Josh Beckett(31)….ages are for opening day 2011. Ahhh, wishful thinking. Joe Mauer(28) is a free agent too, but he’ll cost $200 mil
by BrewCongdon-GTA on Jul 31, 2010 1:34 PM CDT reply actions
Pretty sure Mauer got a new deal from the Twins
by danielcp0303 on Jul 31, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
He did
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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 31, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I really don't want us to go on a binge for free agents ever again
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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 31, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I keep hearing that the Astros do have some interest in Carl Crawford though
I think that would be a mistake
by danielcp0303 on Jul 31, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
The only time I want to see us give out a big deal is to keep our own players. And even then, within reason. If they want too much, let the Yankees have ’em.
I hope we take more of a Tampa Bay approach.
Draft good – have players ready to step in when somebody leaves. Go pitcher heavy, but don’t ignore impact bats. Be reserved on long term deals, they do not work out quite often. Offer arbitration to get additional picks when possible. Never, ever let the farm system go barren again.
Yeah, Tampa Bay is the textbook model for a mid-market team. The other I like that they do is lock up players early on team-friendly contracts (See: Longoria, Evan. Zobrist, Ben.) It’s a little bit of a gamble, because you’re stuck with the player if he falls off a cliff, but the rewards are worth it.
LA Angels
I think I’ve heard before that we’re trying to emulate the Angels. Tampa Bay approach is selling the Houston market short. Houston has way more potential revenue from attendance, advertising, merchandise, tv deals, etc.
LA Angels have been good about drafting and developing players. And they mix in select free agent signings (Guerrero, Fuentes, etc.) Have been consistently good for a long period of time, and actually won a World Series, unlike like Tampa Bay.
When he took over, Wade mentioned that he wanted to model a team similar to the Angels. I’m not sure how far he intended that comparison to go. At the time, it seemed like he was specifically pointing to an offense composed of high average contact hitters with good speed and good base running.
This is going to sound ridiculous because of the number of ex-Phillies we have on the roster, so hopefully you’ll take it the right way in that I’m talking about the qualities their best position players possess and not just the idea of Philly-ness.
I kind of wish he was modeling the team after his old team, the Phillies, instead.
lol. Yeah, I feel the same frustration after the C. Lee signing
It would be fun to go to the park and see those guys every day though. It was awesome when Pettite, Oswalt, and Clemens were in our rotation
by BrewCongdon-GTA on Jul 31, 2010 1:42 PM CDT reply actions
The sad thing
At the time, I liked this signing. Hindsight!
I remember thinking
“Well, it probably won’t be too bad at the end of the contract.”
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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 31, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
DDJ better
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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 31, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I asked Andy Seiller this morning on Adam Plutko and DDJ. He now thinks negotiations are going to go down to the deadline for a deal with DDJ. As far as Plutko is concerned, Plutko said in an interview a few weeks back he was 50-50 and Seiler thinks thats about where it is and likely closer to the not signing side.
A recent Chron interview with Wade said that the Astros want DDJ to sign in the 2.0 – 2.2 million range. (It was not a direct quote, but a statement by the reporter.) That struck me as pretty small range to throw out there. I’m not saying it’s the wrong price, just that stating a small range like that can be non-starter to negotiations.
Open up the purse strings Wade! We ARE rebuilding not matter what Drayton said. Sign the kid and get him in the system asap. Then take a serious shot at Jones and Plutko. This kind of stuff is what cost the 2007 draft and look what happened. The big three from our draft went to school and became 1stRD picks this yr. Quit screwing around and sign them.
I am sure everyone knows I am not as high on DDJ as others are,
so, while I want them to sign him, I would not cry if they don’t. On the other hand, I think signing Plutko and Jones would be almost essential to getting the system back up. If all three are signed, the Astros farm is at least middle of the pack. Without them, I think we are still close to the bottom, but not near as bad as before the year started.
Plutko isn’t going to make that big of an impact on the farm system. I believe he has no. 3 upside and quite a lot of work to get there. DeShields and Jones are much more important pieces to get signed.
I think we will end up signing DeShields and not the other two. And our farm system will be in the 15-20 range.
If DeShields does not sign, we’re looking at two top 10 picks next year. Ultimately, I think he signs. There are a lot of 1st rounders still unsigned.
by IndianaAstrofan on Jul 31, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
The bad thing about not signing him, other than having to wait another year to get a first rounder into the system, is that our pick in 2011 is unprotected then. Which would force us to pick a guy who is much easier to sign, and give us less leverage in negotiations for the signing bonus.
Punting picks is almost always a bad idea for this reason.
Forgot about Wates -
I think he will eventually sign. Not high on Duren, and who is Blair?
I think you are right about the end result.
With all the additions, I would hope we are closer to 15, but realistically may be closer to 20. I will accept your eval of Plutko, because most of what I no about him comes from people singing his praises on this site.
Would be awesome to get Jones signed
…that would tell me a lot about whether Drayton means business in this rebuilding stage
by BrewCongdon-GTA on Jul 31, 2010 1:59 PM CDT reply actions
Keppinger is in the lineup
So he’s probably not getting traded. With the Wandy and Myers deals dead, it seems the Astros are probably done.
thescorer Astros lineup: Bourn, Sanchez, Keppinger, Pence, Michaels, Wallace (1B, MLB debut), Johnson, Castro, Rodriguez. -Z #hounews
What is with Kepp in the 3 hole again. Let’s get CJ higher in the lineup
Why is CJ
not batting behind Pence not only protection for Pence but he is more likely overall to drive in runs than JMike. Or are they protecting Wallace?
45 minutes
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Astros “working” on getting Brett Myers under contract for 2011. Making $3.1M and has $8M mutual option for 2011. #hounews
Multi-year extension, please, not just picking up the option. 2011 doesn’t matter, but if we can get him for a reasonable price in 2012 and perhaps later, that could be very useful.
I like the idea of
keeping Myers and have wanted to see him stay. Just hoping this team might take the chance of getting a legit prospect in return for outstanding performance so far this season.
No guarantee at all,
but at least a decent risk
He peripherals have been solid
And all indicate that this should be conitnued to success. The only place has been a lucky is HR/FB, but if that completely regresses to his career norm, he is still a strong no. 3 pitcher. For the innings he eats and the value he provides, he is a valuable asset.
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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 31, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
2.8 according to fWAR
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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 31, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
You don’t think it’s just a career-year type thing? I know he’ll eat up innings, but is a 30 year-old 3rd starter worth extending for a re-building team?
Yes it's a career year
But, his peripherals haven’t deviated from his career norms, when healthy. He’s only had that hip injury, always been a work horse, and eating innings will be a HUGE asset to this team as younger pitchers learn the ropes.
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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 31, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
you have to have some stability on your team, and we don’t have a lot of that right now
by danielcp0303 on Jul 31, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I am not advocating
a six year deal. But I think a three year deal, allowing us to get some prospects ready would be an acceptable risk
I think it’s a good idea because the Astros will sign a free agent speculative starter (i.e., Hampton, Ortiz, etc.) next year if Myers isn’t here. And I would rather have Myers if he will re-sign for a reasonable price. We’ve been through this enough with Wade to know what he will do with the rotation.
It's a calculated risk
If he continues to perform well, the price tag is going to continue to rise. If he keeps pitching like this through 2011, then it will be very, very high at that point, and we’ll lose him to free agency or overpay him. I’d rather get him now for cheap because I think he can sustain around 3.90 ERA and 200 IP.
Plus, lock him up through 2011 only is kind of pointless. We’re not going to contend next season. If we extend him, it should be with an eye toward ’12-13.
I'd be willing to see Myers through 2014
If we keep the money reasonable
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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 31, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
That would be perfect
A small per year cost maybe a little lower than his mutual option ($7M?) wouldn’t bog down the payroll, but extending him through ’14 would give him a good amount of guaranteed money.
In 2014 he's probably relegated to a Moehler type guy
But still available and along the way his surplus value pays for the last year or two.
2013 is probably more prudent, though.
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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 31, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I see us as being around .500 in ’12 and hopefully contending in 2013, so having him those two years would be ideal, really.
I am not as high on next year
72-77 wins is what I foresee.
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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 31, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
$7M?
That would be a steal. I think Myers is going to ask for $9-10M per season.
Question?
If Myers do not take his part of the option, does that rule out offering him arbitration?
Sadly
I never remember the answer
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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 31, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
15 minutes
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Just read that
That Rosenthal is commenting that no deal because Astros asking price was to high. The only names I saw were the mets for a relief pitcher and a C grade catcher. This is too high? What is with these writers and Their Astro hate? Did we deflower their daughters or something? Goodness, a little respect please. We may be struggling, but we are not the drudges of society. It seems nothing we do is good, and nothing that happens to us is bad. I guess their idea of acceptable value is Myers to the Yankees for Kevin Smith, a 45 year old 2B, who retired 9 years ago.
Any idea what # Wallace will be wearing...
He’s worn 23, 28 & 44 throughout college and minor leagues.
Pumped now. I was disappointed that Wallace wasn’t going to be in nashville but shuck and Melancon will. I hope to see both and Meszaros get some playing time tonight
i'm going to tonight's game
hope to see Wallace and the Astros do well! It’s going to be weird not seeing Lance in the field and in the batter’s box.
Jon Barry, playing like he was 20 years ago when he was a real offensive threat!.... Bill Worrell
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Wade: “We believe we are very very close to consummating a multi year contract with Brett Myers.”
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Wade talking about adding about IFA
Adding lots of young players to the organization, building for the future. Created payroll flexibility, too.
"It's like turning around a battleship, it doesn't turn on a dime"
“Going to have to be patient with this thing.”
Regarding Drayton's hands in the cookie jar
“I can tell you without a blink of an eye that the baseball decisions of the organization have been made by the baseball people in the organization, with the blessing of the owner.”
“I communicate with Drayton every day… he’s been supportive in IFA, Latin America…”
“I hear what the perception is about Drayton and the way the baseball operation runs around here, I’m just giving you my dose of reality.”
Pleasantly surprised
with Myers wanting to sign this mulit-year deal. Its nice, refreshing to see players not being money grubbers.
Wade obviously likes the kid, and I think Myers is grateful to Ed.
Watching Berkman on MLB Network right now
dang he looks strange in that Yankees uniform
He should after all of the practice he’s had in the past few years!
by IndianaAstrofan on Jul 31, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Berkman said he is batting 2nd for the Yankees today
to put his speed to good use
Second is the perfect spot for him in the lineup
His OBP will be very useful there, and he’ll still have plenty of opportunities with runners on base in the AL.
I have to admit
I’m jumpin on the Yankees bandwagon for the rest of the season. I really want Berkman to win (as much as I hate the Yankees)
I know, but I can't help it
He deserves to win. And if he wins a ring, hopefully he’ll come back to Houston
by danielcp0303 on Jul 31, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I’ve never really hated the Yankees. And Berkman in their lineup will turn my AL loyalty toward them this year. I’ve been thinking about past trades of sluggers from the Astros to the Yankees which were similar. Bob Watson and Cliff Johnson were mid-year trades which contributed significantly to Yankees’ playoff wins. I recall watching them in playoff games for the Yankees with a touch of jealousy and a little bit of admiration (as in, these are my Astros’ guys and they finally get some recognition).
I'm still in Tampa Bay camp
Astros fan for life
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