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Lance Berkman approves a trade to the Yankees, but what will the Astros get?

In what has got to be the most active thirty-six hours in club history, Ed Wade apparently has struck a deal with the New York Yankees that will result in Lance Berkman wearing pinstripes. Just about every news outlet has received confirmation that the deal pretty much done, but cannot be finalized until a twenty-four cooling period passes due to Berkman's 10-5 rights.

I have to be honest and say that I am surprised that the Puma is going to be traded. I give Ed Wade kudos for apparently being tireless; I have just been writing about the trades he is making and I'm exhausted. I am also a little leery to see what happens in the deal. With no one receiving any indication of what the deal will consist of, my fear is that the Yankees are basically buying Berkman from the Astros and giving them scraps in return.

Since I just got finished extolling the virtures of rebuilding and shedding salary, this might sound odd. But there is a marked difference between getting younger and cheaper and dumping salary. If Berkman and the remaining $5.6 million he owed go to the Yankees, I fear that our return will not be worth the salary dumped. My  fear is not based on having heard any of the specifics or even having thought through what might be offered in return. Rather, it's based on the dismal returns we have seen for players with money left on their contracts recently. I suppose, though, that the salary dump would be accompanied with Brett Wallace getting two full months of MLB experience, that is not an added enough bonus in my mind's eye.

My one measure of solace is that the Yankees have reportedly spent the day trying to acquire Adam Dunn and are attempting to box the Rays out of acquiring a legitimate DH, too. The Yankees being the Yankees, they are perhaps the only team in baseball that could hardly break a sweat taking on $5.6 million and giving up a decent prospect/player in return. So perhaps Ed Wade will once again to be crazy like a fox in receive something worthwhile in return for the Puma and his contract.

We have at most twenty-two more hours to speculate on the trade and reflect on Berkman's career. As someone who considers Lance to my favorite baseball player of my lifetime (blasphemous, I know), I have to say that I will be happy for him. Being traded to the Yankees allows him to fulfill his childhood dream of being like Mickey Mantle and could generate a lot of positive exposure for him as enters free agency for the first time. The other exciting possibility, of course, is that Roy Oswalt might have to pitch against Lance Berkman in a World Series game (at which point this blog's mixed emotions will cause a tear in space/time fabric resulting in a blackhole that will the swallow the Earth whole).

So, for the next twenty-hours let's have the prospect mavens start drumming up some names for us to salivate over. The line for possibly thinking about considering being excited about the trade is to the left and the line for those who want to burn MMP to the ground because Oswalt and Berkman will be traded away within a 48 period is to the right. 

Star-divide

McTaggart has some great quotes from Berkman reflecting on leaving Houston:

"I'm a little nervous, a little apprehensive about this whole thing," Berkman said. "I'm from Texas. Heck, I played at Rice. This city is like the womb. I feel comfortable here and to think about the possibility of going anywhere else is kind of scary.

"My ideal situation is to win a title here. If this organization feels those aims are better

accomplished by trying to strip down this roster and reload with some younger guys, I don't want to stay in the way of that."

"I never thought I would be in this position, never had to go through it," he said. "It's unsettling because you just don't know what's going to happen and there's all sorts of possibilities. I guess in one sense it's good because there's teams that want me to play for them, particularly in a down season."

 

I share this only because Berkman's departure has more far more sentimental than Oswalt's. In this one, I am definitely searching for catharsis.

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McAllister and Nova is as good a guess as any

Neither of those guys are going to crack the Yankees rotation, and probably not their bullpen either, but could be moderately useful organizational pieces for us.

I really hope we get more or better prospects than that, though. Like I said, if we’re going to get mediocre prospects, I want it to be because they are raw and far from the majors. I don’t want fringy big leaguers.

On the other hand, Nova and McAllister are both big league ready, so maybe adding them to our rotation depth will allow Wade to sell high on Myers. If they are the prospects included, and that ends up being the case, we’ll have to look at this in a different light.

by OremLK on Jul 30, 2010 5:09 PM CDT reply actions  

I like that route a lot more

Younger with ceiling.

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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 30, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heard another name

David Adams, AA second baseman, good plate discipline, little power.
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by mr.manager on Jul 30, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was showing good power in a small sample size this year at AAA, but then he broke his ankle. He’s out for the year. That doesn’t entirely rule him out in a trade, but it makes it less likely.

by OremLK on Jul 30, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

AA, sorry. Not AAA.

by OremLK on Jul 30, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

buster on espn

says he doesn’t know what trade is but presumably its a salary dump

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 30, 2010 5:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Deal is completed, Berkman consented to waive no-trade rights, just have to wait 24 hrs for the technicality #Yankees, #Astros

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 30, 2010 5:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Well they said they wanted major league ready talent so they might be getting it.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

 alysonfooter
  
In other Astros news Blum will do a rehab in Corpus Sat, Sun and Mon and then will rejoin Astros on roadie.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 30, 2010 5:11 PM CDT reply actions  

If we keep Myers

and he continues to pitch like he has, we should get better prospects for his services if they want to trade him.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 5:14 PM CDT reply actions  

What are the chances that he actually does come back next year, and what role would he play? I guess he’d be a mentor to Wallace…

by BoxyBrown on Jul 30, 2010 5:14 PM CDT reply actions  

He’d be Blum but MUCH better hitter off the bench.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any chance he plays 4th outfielder and gets some starts at 1B when Wallace needs rest?

by BoxyBrown on Jul 30, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

He and Baggy would be two great mentors

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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 30, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t know if he’ll come back, but if he does, he’ll have to be the starter. Just can’t imagine him not being. I assume Wallace would stay at AAA to continue working on things.

by OremLK on Jul 30, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unless they actually unload the kid again.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

That poor kid

If it happens

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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 30, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

That thought had crossed my mind as well, but I’ve gotta believe that Wallace will get the job with a good showing in Spring Training. It’s not like we have much to play for next year. Might as well get the kid some experience.

by BoxyBrown on Jul 30, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe Lance wants to come back to sign and retire. He’s hinted at retiring in the past.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

He could learn on the job at the big league level, but I don’t think he’s maxed out what he can learn at AAA yet. He’ll only be 24, and we’ll have him under team control for six years; having him from age 25-31 would actually be ideal, since those are exactly the prime years for hitters.

by OremLK on Jul 30, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

True. He could start at RR and if injury occurs call him to fill in or just be a Sept. call up next season.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we get middle of the road MiLB players

Any chance we can go on a MiLB trade frenzy tonight/tomorrow and couple some C level prospects for a few B level ones?

by Silentjay on Jul 30, 2010 5:16 PM CDT reply actions  

5:09pm: The deal is done and Berkman has approved it, according to Joel Sherman of the New York Post. The Yankees have to wait 24 hours before the deal is officially complete because of Berkman’s ten and five rights.

by Crazy Eye Killa on Jul 30, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

2 seconds later

Nick Cafardo: Berkman to Yankees not close at this hour.

Ambiguous to say the least.

by AstroB on Jul 30, 2010 5:21 PM CDT reply actions  

mlb trade rumors commenter said

“Ken Davidoff says the Astros are expected to receive a "non-prospect minor leaguer" in return” per riveraveblues

really??

by mattw on Jul 30, 2010 5:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Astros County is reporting a lot of links who are saying this is a salary dump.

by AstroB on Jul 30, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

They are all from NY reporters, I think. I’m taking everything with a grain of salt until we hear official word tomorrow.

by OremLK on Jul 30, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we did get all three of Nova, McAllister, and Adams, I’d be okay with that, especially if Myers and/or Wandy also get traded.

by OremLK on Jul 30, 2010 5:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Wandy would be good add-on for yankees and our return.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Much rather keep him till next year, hoping he’ll pitch better and get us a better return.

by mr.manager on Jul 30, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same here but nice to dream a little

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another thought:

If all three of Berkman, Wandy, and Myers get traded post-Oswalt, we are going to be terrible for the rest of the season. Like, really, really bad. Worst team in baseball bad.

by OremLK on Jul 30, 2010 5:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Without Wandy, Berkman and Myers

We may not win another game. In fact we may have to give back some of our current wins.

by kdm59 on Jul 30, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

trading Wandy at this point would make no sense.

by AstroB on Jul 30, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can you say Harper ( if story turns out true) or REndon plz?

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

the first rounders are just being damned greedy, but then again isn’t Harper a Boras client? You have to dance with devil in this business.

by AstroB on Jul 30, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought the Nationals drafted Harper?

by Crazy Eye Killa on Jul 30, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Supposedly Harper tweeted that he was going back to school.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm… that’s intriguing then. I wouldn’t mind seeing the Astros tank the rest of the season and get either Harper/Purke/Rendon. But will the Astros be in the Top 3?

by Crazy Eye Killa on Jul 30, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could just be Boras’ normal BS.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly that would be the best thing that could happen to us. Rendon/Cole would be really nice.

by Vesper on Jul 30, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rendon would be awesome.

by Crazy Eye Killa on Jul 30, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also good, but I think Cole is believed to be the best pitcher of this class

by Vesper on Jul 30, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mr. Heyman

 SI_JonHeyman
  
Yankees on verge of getting Berkman, just working out details

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 30, 2010 5:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Rosenthal and Sherman both

confirm trad is done. No details on Astros returns.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 5:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, it sounds like a done deal. Probably won’t get much out of it, unless Eddie has something up his sleeve. I still hope the Astros aren’t done trading.

by Crazy Eye Killa on Jul 30, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then again it is these two dipsh**s saying this.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well that’s nice they can’t give us names when we trade one our faces. Whos more important? Millions of Astro fans or two or three minor leaguers feeling unwanted if they trade falls through.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 30, 2010 5:38 PM CDT reply actions  

NYY dont give a damn about the little guys. WE Houston want to know though so screw us.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have a hard time believing

that we just getting non prospect players…houston had other offers so they couldn’t have taken this one…

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 30, 2010 5:41 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't buy it either

But I don’t think we’re going to get good prospects.

by OremLK on Jul 30, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Strangely, I’m not disappointed by this – if it’s just a salary dump. I guess my caveat is if the money is used for draft picks or imports. Besides, Puma could be back in an Astros uniform next season at a reduced price. Also, the Astros will still suck with or without him.

by Crazy Eye Killa on Jul 30, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

We have three player worth trading off big league roster now.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah but to think we are completely overhauling our team

just doesn’t seem right. It’s wishful thinking, but why get a piece is Wallace who is ready to contribute this year or next (next june I hope)

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 30, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

doesn't it feel like a month

Since this team actually played baseball?

by AstroB on Jul 30, 2010 5:44 PM CDT reply actions  

lol. seems like forever since last game.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lance’s farewell tour just like Biggio.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

with what lance has been saying to the media i have to believe he will spend the year in NY and come back and sign for less.

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by allphilla on Jul 30, 2010 5:45 PM CDT reply actions  

if he allowed the deal to go through without demanding his option

be picked up or restructuring, I could imagine he thinks he has made enough money.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 30, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 30, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Trade Proposal

We send EL Ponson and Drayton along R. Justice to Panama for the rights to the Panama Canal. You think they might bite on this?

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 5:52 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm not sure...I think

we should throw in some money…say 11 million?

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 30, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Would be cool to see that.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I might go buy a ticket at the gate for the chance to see it.

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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 30, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

anyone want to start a fund

The “Please Sign Jacoby Jones” Fund…I’ll give 20 bucks to the fund

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 30, 2010 5:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I’d donate… then again, Drayton’s a billionaire and is “saving” money by shipping off Oswalt and most likely Berkman. They should pay Jones.

by Crazy Eye Killa on Jul 30, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shit Wade just saved something like $12 mil on Roy. I think cheap ass grocery boy can afford to sign them now.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have you guys noticed when it comes to making a smart move Drayton becomes a freekin tightwad and then when he decides to do something stupid (like give fat bastard his contract) money seems to appear out of thin air?

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

another step

towards cleaning Hunsicker and Purpura’s mess.

by AstroB on Jul 30, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Question for everyone:

Who will play at first base for the remainder of the season? Which is best?

1. Wallace full-time
2. Lee move from LF to 1st
3. Blum/Feliz platoon
4. Other

by rjg6891 on Jul 30, 2010 6:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Feliz til Blum gets

back. when he does cut Feliz and call Maysonet up.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

1 or 2

Though, is it a given that Lee can play first?

by mr.manager on Jul 30, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he cant run aint no WAY in hell that fat tub of lard is going to stretch and dig balls out of the dirt

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

3

if Wallace keeps hitting well, makes small strides towards walking more and works on defense, I would call him up in September. Is Wallace on the 40 man already anyways? I want to call up Wallace next June or July to delay his arbitration clock. Moving Lee might not be bad. Platoon Bogusevic and Bourgeous.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 30, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which ever one will get us RENDON

by kdm59 on Jul 30, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

 Buster_ESPN
  
Heard this: The Astros are picking up a lot of the money owed to Lance Berkman in their agreement with the Yankees, and the NYY#trades

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 30, 2010 6:00 PM CDT reply actions  

maybe several B type guys then?

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only
Heard this: The Astros are picking up a lot of the money owed to Lance Berkman in their agreement with the Yankees, and the NYY#trades

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A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by Stephen Higdon on Jul 30, 2010 6:02 PM CDT reply actions  

No way we’d pick up a lot of the money for AAAA guys, so we’re definitely getting some kind of prospects. Which ones is the question.

by OremLK on Jul 30, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

A “not major prospect” NY is anybody who doesn’t have star upside.

by OremLK on Jul 30, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

We are getting prospects

According to Buster Olney, who isn’t exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer, we’re not getting “major” prospects. If that means no Jesus Montero, well, we already knew that.

Wait until you see the deal before you judge it.

by OremLK on Jul 30, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

How can you possibly judge it when you don’t even know what the deal is?

by OremLK on Jul 30, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm half kidding

but seriously we’re not gonna get anyone that makes much of an impact. If we are paying some of his salary, it saves the Astros a little bit of money. And helps Berkman to get a title. I’m ok with it…just sucks

by danielcp0303 on Jul 30, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

We'll see.

I don’t trust Buster Olney’s opinion on what is a major prospect. If we get some high upside guys—like that guy tweeted about below, Jimmy Paredes—that’s fine.

by OremLK on Jul 30, 2010 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

If it is true

that we get basically nothing back for Berkman, then I think we need to trade Myers to the White Sox for a box of pens and a roll of tape. I am sure they will accept the deal as long as we include $8 million.

by kdm59 on Jul 30, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jim Callis jimcallisBA
  
RT @mikeaxisa: Jimmy Paredes was yanked from Charleston’s lineup late, he could be on his way to Houston

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 30, 2010 6:02 PM CDT reply actions  

If hes in it not too bad. pretty good stats so far this season. Got some speed 36 SB this yr.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

He'd qualify as a non-prospect

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by bigfatdrunk on Jul 30, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um, no.

He’s a plus defensive second baseman with fantastic baserunning skills who is projected to hit .300 and develop above average power down the road.

He’s still a grade C prospect, but he’s definitely a legitimate prospect with legitimate upside.

by OremLK on Jul 30, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAH!

I mean, seriously.

He’s a 21yo in Low A with no plate discipline and he strikes out a ton. Yes, that’s a C-level prospect, but his chances of becoming a major league regular, average or not, is about, what, 1%? Maybe 3%? And for Puma?

I give up.

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by bigfatdrunk on Jul 30, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just because we love Puma

Doesn’t mean other GM’s do.

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A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by Stephen Higdon on Jul 30, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

He’s an aging player w/ injury history and is slumping from prev. yr’s

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's go over this again

Judging tools prospects by their statistics is silly and a bad idea.

Paredes doesn’t actually strike out a ton. His career strikeout rate is 15.8%. It has gone up to 18.8% at low A this year, but that’s reasonable for a guy projected to hit for more power.

Many prospects don’t see their power really emerge until age 22-23.

Plus defense has value. Paredes is reportedly a good enough defender to play shortstop, but shoulder problems forced a move to second base, where he is very, very good. Baserunning has value too. And so does hitting for average.

The biggest strike against Paredes is, as you mentioned, his plate discipline. Some guys improve in this area (sometimes significantly) as they get older. Some don’t. And as a matter of fact, you don’t actually have to draw a lot of walks to be a valuable player. You just have to be better at other facets of your game—like hitting for average, power, running the bases, and playing good defense—to make up for it.

And because of his tools, scouts think Paredes will be good in all of the above areas.

by OremLK on Jul 30, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

What you need to understand, BFD

Is that almost every prospect starts out as a grade C guy. Loading up on a bunch of prospects with high ceilings and hoping a few of them pan out isn’t a bad strategy. Some of them are going to bust, but getting them when they’re raw and developing them yourself can eventually result in a blue chip prospect.

by OremLK on Jul 30, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Throwing this out there

Anyone want to meet up at the gate, buy a ticket and hopefully see Puma get an AB?

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by Stephen Higdon on Jul 30, 2010 6:03 PM CDT reply actions  

I would but Im 3 hrs away. Damn I wish I still lived there.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wish I could.

Anniversary dinner with the wife tonight.

by OremLK on Jul 30, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

i have to work :(

but if you come to tomball ill buy you a beer

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by allphilla on Jul 30, 2010 6:05 PM CDT reply actions  

 brianmctaggart
  
Berkman hugging teammates in clubhouse

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 30, 2010 6:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Berkman hugging teammates in clubhouse

McTaggart

This is making me sad.

by OremLK on Jul 30, 2010 6:06 PM CDT reply actions  

If the trade is all but official

and he has to wait till tomorrow to head for NY, he can still make an appearance in tonights game right??

by Astrofan on Jul 30, 2010 6:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Really? Damn. I would to love to see him get a standing O.

by Astrofan on Jul 30, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shit.

It looks like I’m going to be a Yankees fan (and that’s painful to say) for a few months. But I can’t root against Lance.

by BTirish on Jul 30, 2010 6:08 PM CDT reply actions  

probably a homophobe who thinks your gay if you listen to Katy Perry.

by AstroB on Jul 30, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Has the idiot seen HP’s woman?!

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very true.

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on Jul 30, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm going to miss Lance.

At least it’ll make the Yankees winning the WS a little more bearable.

Anyone up for a collection of his greatest one-liners?

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on Jul 30, 2010 6:09 PM CDT reply actions  

I’d have to pull for Philly. I hate NYY.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Would be happy for LAnce or Roy but would still b pissed if NYY won.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Game 7

Oswalt goes 8 Strong up 3-0 heading into 9th…lidge to close it out…goes to 2 outs with bases loaded and berkman up…he walks off with a GS…Yanks win…Lidge blows Oswalt W.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 30, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude, i was gonna say the same exact thing except oswalt has a no hitter through 8 2/3, berkman comes up, walk off.

by MatthewT on Jul 30, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, go ahead run.

by MatthewT on Jul 30, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

FSN Houston

He wants to be a free agent and has not ruled out coming back to Houston under a new lower deal.

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A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by Stephen Higdon on Jul 30, 2010 6:11 PM CDT reply actions  

They better show the damn game here in CC.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where are the Lance's of yesteryear?

Lance reportedly does not want his option picked up for next year. He wants to be a free agent and has not ruled out coming back to Houston under a new lower deal.

by AstroB on Jul 30, 2010 6:11 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm sure there will be Roy voodoo dolls in Philly tonight

I wish the best for Roy and want to see him do well even though I didn’t like him asking for a trade.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 30, 2010 6:15 PM CDT reply actions  

JeromeSolomon
  
“We are not rebuilding, we’re adjusting,” McLane said. “We’ve traded one player. I think if we traded six players that’s rebuilding.”

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 30, 2010 6:17 PM CDT reply actions  

McLame the fool. It’s rebuilding dumba**.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does he think we won’t realize it’s rebuilding?

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least his definition of “rebuilding” isn’t as far off as his definition of “championship team.”

by BTirish on Jul 30, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

100 percent

when you think winning your division is a championship, you are clearly delusional.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 30, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah Ed Wade is ‘adjusting’ McLane’s expectation

by AstroB on Jul 30, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can he adjust how far McLame’s head goes up his own ass?

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rebuilding or not, you’re making a pretty big adjustment there, McLane, trading your two best players !

by rjg6891 on Jul 30, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he had just said re-tolling I wouldn’t have jumped on him so badly but come on Drayton.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can we honestly say he is the worst owner in baseball now?

by rjg6891 on Jul 30, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was there ever any doubt?

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

BNightengale
  
#mlb Curiously, Lance Berkman had recently exercised his no-trade rights for possible deal with White Sox before accepting Yankees’ trade

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 30, 2010 6:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Is there anywhere to watch the Phils game?

I cancelled Extra Innings this season.

Can you buy individual games on MLB.TV? I never used it.

by hardcap on Jul 30, 2010 6:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Im just doing game day. MLBTV is by the month or season I believe. Could be wrong.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, sorry, but that statement got me so riled up!

by rjg6891 on Jul 30, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Off topic

But for anyone interested, Wallace is not in the starting lineup for Round Rock tonight.

by BoxyBrown on Jul 30, 2010 6:33 PM CDT reply actions  

he should be still packed after all the trades hes been in. lol

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

An article on Round Rock’s site says he is supposed to be available for the game tonight

by BoxyBrown on Jul 30, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

could be simple lag

Though Las Vegas to Austin isn’t an awfully long trip.

by AstroB on Jul 30, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could be in RR waiting for decision from FO.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Berkman said that he got the list of 8 teams to accept or decline yesterday. My guess is that the FO knew of a potential Berkman deal and have Wallace waiting until tomorrow to report to one place or the other.

by IndianaAstrofan on Jul 30, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

could be getting called up already

and should be since berkman will be gone before tommorows game

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 30, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe they are waiting to see what FO wants to do tomorrow.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m going to the Sounds-Express game tomorrow night so he better play tomorrow night…

by Subber10 on Jul 30, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would suck if he’s in Houston tomorrow.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

From the way

Deshais is talking a decision on Wallace hasnt been made or announced yet

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:36 PM CDT reply actions  

 jcrasnick
  
Roy Oswalt just gunned down by Nats RF Roger Bernadina on the always entertaining 9-3 putout.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 30, 2010 6:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Roy gave up a hit to the pitcher

then hit the next batter.

Men on 1st and 2nd, no outs.

by hardcap on Jul 30, 2010 6:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Roy having

bad outing so far. opposing SP gets single then hits Morgan. 2 on 0 out

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Roty should feel at home in Philly. Hes getting similar defense tonight.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same non-existent offense as well

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I figured

Roy would do bad. I’ve always secretly thought he was overrated. But maybe it’s just me.

by MatthewT on Jul 30, 2010 6:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Zachary Levine thescorer
  
Brett Wallace, likely replacement for Berkman, not in the lineup for Class AAA Round Rock tonight. -Z

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 30, 2010 6:45 PM CDT reply actions  

SUCK!!!!!!!! I want to see him play for RR tomorrow night!

by Subber10 on Jul 30, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait until the FO says thats happening. nothing been announced as of yet.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe he’ll be in the lineup then?

by OremLK on Jul 30, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats what I’m hoping!

by Subber10 on Jul 30, 2010 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Altuve at it again

1 for 1 1HR looks like leadoff HR

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Berkman’s stock is down. Not the player he once was and teams are watching the $ this yr. Ramos was stuck behind prob. the best C in the game for yrs to come so they needed to dump him. Hudson not that great of a prospect, good but not great. Villar has a lot potential, just have to wait and see on him.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is a 2 month rental.
AC points out that the thing McLane really didn’t want to do was have to decline Berkman’s 2011 option. He saw it as a terrible piece of PR. Remember Bagwell 2006, how badly that got out of control.
Berkman has had a pretty average season by his standards, even though his OBP is the only half-decent one on the roster.
The Matt Capps trade makes me wonder why Wade didn’t listen to offers for Lindstrom, but hey ho.

by AstroB on Jul 30, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again

Wait until you see what we’re getting before you judge.

by OremLK on Jul 30, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoa buddy

Capps is cheap. Even after we ate/eat Oswalt’s and Berkman’s salary the other teams are still paying the millions of dollars. Oswalt brought back Happ (no. 3 or 4), plus Berkman’s replacment. Lance is in the midst of his worst season of his career. We have to divorce our emotional ties to the players when evaluating the returns.

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A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by Stephen Higdon on Jul 30, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Still, when I saw that Capps deal it made me really wish we had shopped Lindstrom to the Twins.

by seanbergmanrules on Jul 30, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh

Me too. ME TOO.

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A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by Stephen Higdon on Jul 30, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

That sucks

Roy having a bad outing.

by hardcap on Jul 30, 2010 6:48 PM CDT reply actions  

b4 I go for the night

I must say, we have no idea what the trade is. The fact is both team haven’t even agreed on a deal yet according to Patti Smith. Who knows, Kepp and Myers might be in deal as well? Who knows Jason Freakin Castro might be in the deal. We have no idea what the trade is, and it’s likely we won’t find out till 3 P.M. tomorrow. Until then, we can hope all those reports are wrong (which EVERY SINGLE ON PRE OSWALT TRADE was)

Goodbye Berkman! Gimme a HR tonight for old times sake!

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 30, 2010 6:50 PM CDT reply actions  

IF thats the case

I would trade Berkman and Kepp and Castro to the Yanks for Montero, Adams, and … Brackman .. I guess. Im just saying I dont want Berkman to go for a bag of peanuts, especially when were throwing in a good amount of cash…. SIGH…

by Logan Haire on Jul 30, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

We dont what were getting yet.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I tweeted to footer, “can Berkman make a PH appearance in tonights game?” Her response: “Yes, of course…he is currently a part of this team.” Take that FWIW. I would assume he makes it into this game at some point.

by Astrofan on Jul 30, 2010 6:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Would be nice to see that happen.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im sure with all this new fangled social media they do.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I were ever going to run on the field

I would do it tonight and give Berkman a big hug

by danielcp0303 on Jul 30, 2010 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

same here man

Berkmans my favorite Astro ever only behind Bags.

by Logan Haire on Jul 30, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bob Allen on Channel 13

Reporting we got two prospects. No names though.

by BoxyBrown on Jul 30, 2010 7:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Roy O

Can’t help but wonder how Roy is enjoying that run support he’s getting from that All-Star lineup thats facing a Cy Young candidate.

by Jstrosfan on Jul 30, 2010 7:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Happ

He’s going to fit right in, over 40 pitches in 2 innings. Lucky if he makes 5.

by Jstrosfan on Jul 30, 2010 7:33 PM CDT reply actions  

my apologies to Mr. Happ, 5 innings of 1 hit ball is a pretty good start.

by Jstrosfan on Jul 30, 2010 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Surreal

Always thought that Berkman would be a lifer as an Astro.

by pacbellpilgrim on Jul 30, 2010 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Okay, if Berkman is basically a rental...

Why the hell did McLane $4 million to the Yankees? It’s not a salary dump if half of the contract is still on the payroll!

by mike_o on Jul 30, 2010 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

They saved $3.1 mil he’s owed $7.1 w/ his buy out

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Between the two trades Wade saved roughly $15 mil give or take. Good savings plus getting SP and 4 prospects. This isn’t a bad thing. Stros got younger,saved $, and began to replenish one of the worst farm systems in MLB. All in all they weren’t blockbuster deals so Wade got what he could to fill system needs and stock the farm system with guys who are MLB ready and some projectable low level but talented youngsters.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Berkman and Oswalt

I have been an Astros fan from the beginning starting with the Buffs. I am happy to see Berkman and Oswalt go. There’s no loyalty anymore. Chase the dollar. Good riddance and I hope they are happy and unsuccessful. MLB may be a business but its the fans that got them to where they are at. I believe the Astros will actually improve without these two because of their negative attitudes and greed. Biggio stayed thru thick and thin. So did Bagwell. Great deal for the Astros.

by sammydhay on Jul 30, 2010 9:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Berkman was not greedy. His demand was that the team getting him would not pickup his option. He wants to come back and said so to the media. Houston is hometown. I think they both just want that one last shot at a WS ring. Money was not ever the issue with either of them.

by StrosSouth on Jul 30, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow.

http://www.sbnation.com/2010/7/30/1597620/lance-berkman-trade-mark-melancon-jimmy-paredes

Wade is really earning his money. I want his dealer’s number and I don’t even do drugs

by BrewCongdon-GTA on Jul 30, 2010 10:11 PM CDT reply actions  

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