Astros Minor League Open Thread (and five Phillies prospects)
Another day, another batch of Roy Rumors. Over the past week, the Phillies have emerged as the frontrunner to trade for Roy Oswalt. Today's rumor mill only reinforced that feeling, with the Cardinals and the Dodgers rumored to be dropping back in the running (although the Reds did reportedly express interest in Oswalt's services).
Things can change very quickly this time of year, but if I had to place a bet today, I'd bet on Roy being in a Phillies uniform this time next week.
I already discussed four players who could be centerpieces of a deal with the Phillies in my post a week ago on the subject. The two most likely to be included have emerged as finesse lefty J.A. Happ and young slugging first base prospect Jonathan Singleton, although nothing regarding the player package has been confirmed by reliable sources.
Since I already talked about some of Philadelphia's best trade pieces, I thought I'd do a post about some other intriguing prospects who could be obtained as additional pieces in a Phillies deal; lesser prospects who are either fringy contributors soon or have the tools to potentially develop into impact players down the road.
In the meantime, since today's was a day game, consider this your minor league open thread as well if you wish to discuss today's farm activities.
Without further ado, here's the list.
- Harold Garcia, 2B (AA). Garcia presents an intriguing combination of power and speed; he stole 42 bases in 118 games last year, and while he's more a gap-to-gap hitter, he does have enough power to hit plenty of doubles and triples and perhaps double-digit homers down the road. His speed makes him an above average defender at second base. His one foible is his strikeout rate; it's not terrible, but at around 20%, it's a little higher than you'd like to see. He has all of the tools to be an everyday major league second baseman, and if he can improve his plate discipline, he could be a good one. That's a big "if", however.
- Jonathan Villar, SS (A). Somewhat similar to Harold Garcia, Villar is a young shortstop in low A with plus speed and some issues with strikeouts. The strikeouts are less worrying from 19-year old than for a 23-year old like Garcia, but they are still a concern. Villar also has yet to hit for much power, but his swing suggests that may change as he gets older and gains strength (video). His best attribute is his speed, which has allowed him to steal 37 bases this year.
- Matt Rizzotti, 1B (AA). Never much on prospect radars prior to this year, Rizzotti is having a breakout season with the Phillies' AA affiliate, batting for a .362/.438/.598 line with solid but unspectacular plate discipline numbers. He won't continue to bat .362, so all of those numbers will come down, but he does appear to have a compact, powerful stroke (video), and it's possible his bat could be good enough to start at first base.
- Scott Mathieson, RHP (AAA). Surely on the Astros' radar, since he was drafted and developed by Wade's front office, Mathieson is a hard-throwing relief pitcher who has battled with injuries throughout his minor league career. He has an excellent strikeout rate and profiles as an immediate contributor to the Astros' bullpen.
- Austin Hyatt, RHP (A+). I haven't been able to find either scouting reports or video on Hyatt, so this is purely a stats entry. I don't know anything about him other than that his strikeout rate, and consequently his K/BB ratio, are spectacular. He's old for his level (24 at A+), but age relative to league isn't as important for pitchers, and this is only his first full pro season. More importantly, when a guy strikes out 136 batters in 105 innings, you sit up and take notice. It suggests he's either doing something deceptive hitters at that level can't get a read on, or he has very good stuff. He also doesn't appear to have any problem throwing strikes, with a solid 2.7 BB/9 rate this season.
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telvin nash homers again
he has been on fire…
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 6:55 PM CDT reply actions
by the way here is the bookmarked page I use for when I'm looking at our minors
http://houston.astros.mlb.com/mlb/minorleagues/affiliates/index.jsp?c_id=hou
really helpful for me
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 6:57 PM CDT reply actions
Huh.
Never saw that before. I’d just been using each affiliate’s individual website previously. Thanks for the link!
i figured many people didn't use this
i previously went to each website…found this, and was amazed…its very very useful…no problem``
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
WOW...from buster olney
Heard this: The Phillies’ trade for Roy Oswalt that has been discussed is likely to include three or four teams — if it happens.
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 7:01 PM CDT reply actions
That'd keep us busy for two days
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 28, 2010 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
What kind of prospect would y’all say J.D. Martinez is? The guy seems to be hitting everywhere he goes. I know his Hooks’ sample size isn’t that big, but he seems to be adjusting fine so far.
How long do you guys think he’ll stay in Corpus? Obviously, he won’t move up this season (I would think not) but what would have to happen for him to get the call up?
by Crazy Eye Killa on Jul 28, 2010 7:21 PM CDT reply actions
He’ll probably finish in CC this year. Pending how his production is in CC will determine his start next year. If he finishes strong, he’ll be in RR to start next year. A low .700 OPS might keep him in CC for the start of next year.
Clack brought up a scenario in which he could even start out in Houston next year. But that would require Berkman and/or Lee not being on the roster next season and nobody is signed to fill their spot. In that case, he will likely get a look to fill the spot but would have to really impress in ST.
I said this when he was promoted, if he posts anything close to a .900 OPS in CC, I will put him in my top 5 Astro prospects. I’m gonna go ahead and say anything over .800 actually.
Need to see if he hits at the higher levels; he was old for his level at low A and dominating younger pitchers. I’m very optimistic about him though, he can clearly hit for average and has some pop.
I don’t really want to project exactly how he’ll end up until I see how he does over the rest of the season at AA. He could end up being anything from a fourth outfielder to a star at this point.
gotta love it...
also if we go 3 or 4 teams, i hope its PHI/TB/HOU or with tex in there…they got nice pieces there too!
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I still irrationally want the Twins involved
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 28, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Very interesting
That’s unexpected. Hope there’s a bidding war!
The link to the source is here by the way. Per FOX 26 Houston.
Man, I gotta say that this all pretty exciting.
I just hope he gets traded before Friday—I’m going to the beach all day, and I’m pretty sure my girl will get real tired of me asking her to check trade rumors on her phone every 20 minutes.
"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"
So what kind of offer does everyone think they made?
"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"
Aren't the Rangers on credit from MLB?
If they are AND they’re still pursuing players, they’re just abusing the privilege after acquiring Cliff Lee.
I believe Rangers were given a budget before the season began
and still have money to spend under it.
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 28, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
from mr heyman
#jays want big prospect from #mets, too, for downs. mets like myers but told houston wants to keep him since oswalt will go
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 7:54 PM CDT reply actions
#Royals get C Lucas May and P Elisaul Pimentel from #Dodgers. #MLB
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Pods for Meh
Kevin Goldstein Kevin_Goldstein
Dear Tweeters: Lucas May does not have great power, and Elisaul Pimentel does not have big upside. You may now return to your evening.
BenBadler
New #Royals C Lucas May could be a decent backup in the big leagues. That’s probably his upside, though
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
BenBadler
New #Royals RHP Elisaul Pimentel is another fringy guy, 89-93, inconsistent slider and changeup that flash avg at times
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
JIM BOWDEN JimBowdenXMFOX
L May is a back-up catcher at best and Pimental fringe prospect…nice deal for Podsednik by Colletti to give them depth with Manny’s hammys
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Looks fair. Couple of grade C types with an outside shot to be decent big league guys. About what you would expect for Scotty Pods.
if he was traded to NL CENTRAL
KC could ask for more…because Pods is an astros killer
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
from buster olney
Heard this: A third team that was involved in the Phillies-Oswalt talks has backed out. Philly-Houston now dealing head to head #trades
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 8:31 PM CDT reply actions
A little different than what everyone else is talking about, but
anyone see anything promising coming out of AAA? I see bogey, and he’s putting up a nice average. The pitching is horrible there from what i see. Hopefully these low A guys and AA guys will be up there soon, including the future draft picks, and RR can have a team that has some pretty good prospects.
The most interesting players at Round Rock got called up in June (Castro and CJ, and to a lesser extent, Bourgeois). But Bogey, DeLome, and Locke all profile as solid bench players/fringe starters, and Daniel Meszaros could be a good relief pitcher.
from heyman
phillies remain favorites for oswalt. yankees checked in on roy only once. but its always hard to rule them out entirely.
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 8:56 PM CDT reply actions
The Phillies and Astros have intensified talks in the last 24 hours about a deal that would send Roy Oswalt to Philadelphia, sources said. But major financial obstacles remain that could still stand in the way of this trade being completed before Saturday’s trading deadline.
Article goes on to say that the package would include J.A. Happ and prospects, and they are close to an agreement on what players would be involved. The teams are still far apart on how much money the Astros would send in the deal, though.
hearing that PHI stations
saying stros all over singleton
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 9:40 PM CDT reply actions
btw that is a comment from MLBTR comments
take with grain of salt
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Awesome
If Singleton is involved (which I’m skeptical of) this would be a feather in Wades cap as Phils claimed Singleton wasn’t available only a few days ago. A deal with Happ & Singleton would be a solid core of a deal and I would assume that the amount of cash sent will determine quality of remaining package.
My question to you guys is how much would you spend (off Oswalts contract) to obtain a guy like: Cosart, Colvin, Rizzotti, H. Garcia….
My perspective is this
It sounds like the Phillies are the only serious suitor right now. If you don’t trade Roy, you’re going to be paying him to play for a losing team anyway. If money is standing in the way, you pay what it takes to get the deal done, because you’ll still be spending less than you would anyway.
You can wait until the off-season, but then you’re paying $7M for the rest of Roy’s salary this year anyway, and you still might wind up having to kick in cash later. Why not just put that money in the deal with the Phillies now and get it done?
If I were Drayton, I would also be looking at this as one of those rare opportunities to buy prospects, and however many good ones (grade B- or better) the Phils let me pick up by taking on salary, I do it. If I can pick up the rest of Roy’s contract and pillage their farm system of a bunch of top prospects? Go for it. I doubt the Phillies would agree to that beyond a certain point though.
as i just posted but in 1 sentence
I agree…why not pay all of oswalt this year…better to trade him get much better in future then to let him sit here and pay him…Id also pay maybe half of next year to get more prospects…u still make money by not having oswalt…you have happ replace oswalt and his money isn’t near oswalt so pay half of oswalt, use some for whatever happs contract is next year, and then you still have leftover of what you were supposed to be paying oswalt for to use in FA…AND You have more prospects
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I just get the feeling we should stay away from the 90 to 100 million dollar range for next years payroll budget. This is exactly why we should be overhauling all of these players who have much higher value then they most certainly will next year (i.e. Myers, Keppinger, Wandy of late, Lindstrom if we get the right deal.) I’m just sick of 12 dollar watery leaky margaritas, small beers for 8 dollars and outrageous priced food on a team that isn’t worth a crap. They played well today and have some decent young talent in Pence, Castro and Johnson, but TIME TO OFFICIALLY REBUILD. After exciting drafts and being forced into sell mode without SELLING ANYTHING, I think our owner/tyrant has proved how clueless he really is. I would definitely mark down Saturday afternoon as a date of significance for everyone to judge Drayton as an idiot or a genius.
by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 28, 2010 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
if your drayton
why not pay rest of oswalts salary this year? to get more or better prospects that should be a no doubter
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 10:49 PM CDT reply actions

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