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Astros Minor League Open Thread (and five Phillies prospects)

Philadelphia Phillies' Scott Mathieson throws with other pitchers during spring training baseball practice, Thursday, Feb. 18, 2010, in Clearwater, Fla. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)

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6 months ago: Philadelphia Phillies' Scott Mathieson throws with other pitchers during spring training baseball practice, Thursday, Feb. 18, 2010, in Clearwater, Fla. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)

Another day, another batch of Roy Rumors.  Over the past week, the Phillies have emerged as the frontrunner to trade for Roy Oswalt.  Today's rumor mill only reinforced that feeling, with the Cardinals and the Dodgers rumored to be dropping back in the running (although the Reds did reportedly express interest in Oswalt's services).

Things can change very quickly this time of year, but if I had to place a bet today, I'd bet on Roy being in a Phillies uniform this time next week.

I already discussed four players who could be centerpieces of a deal with the Phillies in my post a week ago on the subject.  The two most likely to be included have emerged as finesse lefty J.A. Happ and young slugging first base prospect Jonathan Singleton, although nothing regarding the player package has been confirmed by reliable sources.

Since I already talked about some of Philadelphia's best trade pieces, I thought I'd do a post about some other intriguing prospects who could be obtained as additional pieces in a Phillies deal; lesser prospects who are either fringy contributors soon or have the tools to potentially develop into impact players down the road.

In the meantime, since today's was a day game, consider this your minor league open thread as well if you wish to discuss today's farm activities.

Without further ado, here's the list.

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  • Harold Garcia, 2B (AA).  Garcia presents an intriguing combination of power and speed; he stole 42 bases in 118 games last year, and while he's more a gap-to-gap hitter, he does have enough power to hit plenty of doubles and triples and perhaps double-digit homers down the road.  His speed makes him an above average defender at second base.  His one foible is his strikeout rate; it's not terrible, but at around 20%, it's a little higher than you'd like to see.  He has all of the tools to be an everyday major league second baseman, and if he can improve his plate discipline, he could be a good one.  That's a big "if", however.
  • Jonathan Villar, SS (A).  Somewhat similar to Harold Garcia, Villar is a young shortstop in low A with plus speed and some issues with strikeouts.  The strikeouts are less worrying from 19-year old than for a 23-year old like Garcia, but they are still a concern.  Villar also has yet to hit for much power, but his swing suggests that may change as he gets older and gains strength (video).  His best attribute is his speed, which has allowed him to steal 37 bases this year.
  • Matt Rizzotti, 1B (AA).  Never much on prospect radars prior to this year, Rizzotti is having a breakout season with the Phillies' AA affiliate, batting for a .362/.438/.598 line with solid but unspectacular plate discipline numbers.  He won't continue to bat .362, so all of those numbers will come down, but he does appear to have a compact, powerful stroke (video), and it's possible his bat could be good enough to start at first base.
  • Scott Mathieson, RHP (AAA).  Surely on the Astros' radar, since he was drafted and developed by Wade's front office, Mathieson is a hard-throwing relief pitcher who has battled with injuries throughout his minor league career.  He has an excellent strikeout rate and profiles as an immediate contributor to the Astros' bullpen.
  • Austin Hyatt, RHP (A+).  I haven't been able to find either scouting reports or video on Hyatt, so this is purely a stats entry.  I don't know anything about him other than that his strikeout rate, and consequently his K/BB ratio, are spectacular.  He's old for his level (24 at A+), but age relative to league isn't as important for pitchers, and this is only his first full pro season. More importantly, when a guy strikes out 136 batters in 105 innings, you sit up and take notice.  It suggests he's either doing something deceptive hitters at that level can't get a read on, or he has very good stuff.  He also doesn't appear to have any problem throwing strikes, with a solid 2.7 BB/9 rate this season.

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He’s looking more and more like the slugger he was supposed to be when they drafted him.

by OremLK on Jul 28, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

It’s gettin me giddy

by Subber10 on Jul 28, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jose Montero has been the most impressive young starter this season. Xavier Baso has been an impressive bullpen guy as well. Although he’s used as a reliever, he pitches similar innings as a starter. My guess is he’ll end up being a starter eventually. Baso made the DSL all-star team.

by Subber10 on Jul 28, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh.

Never saw that before. I’d just been using each affiliate’s individual website previously. Thanks for the link!

by OremLK on Jul 28, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

i figured many people didn't use this

i previously went to each website…found this, and was amazed…its very very useful…no problem``

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I use that from time to time, but I primarily use milb.com.

by Subber10 on Jul 28, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

WOW...from buster olney

Heard this: The Phillies’ trade for Roy Oswalt that has been discussed is likely to include three or four teams — if it happens.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 7:01 PM CDT reply actions  

What kind of prospect would y’all say J.D. Martinez is? The guy seems to be hitting everywhere he goes. I know his Hooks’ sample size isn’t that big, but he seems to be adjusting fine so far.

How long do you guys think he’ll stay in Corpus? Obviously, he won’t move up this season (I would think not) but what would have to happen for him to get the call up?

by Crazy Eye Killa on Jul 28, 2010 7:21 PM CDT reply actions  

He’ll probably finish in CC this year. Pending how his production is in CC will determine his start next year. If he finishes strong, he’ll be in RR to start next year. A low .700 OPS might keep him in CC for the start of next year.

Clack brought up a scenario in which he could even start out in Houston next year. But that would require Berkman and/or Lee not being on the roster next season and nobody is signed to fill their spot. In that case, he will likely get a look to fill the spot but would have to really impress in ST.

I said this when he was promoted, if he posts anything close to a .900 OPS in CC, I will put him in my top 5 Astro prospects. I’m gonna go ahead and say anything over .800 actually.

by Subber10 on Jul 28, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Need to see if he hits at the higher levels; he was old for his level at low A and dominating younger pitchers. I’m very optimistic about him though, he can clearly hit for average and has some pop.

I don’t really want to project exactly how he’ll end up until I see how he does over the rest of the season at AA. He could end up being anything from a fourth outfielder to a star at this point.

by OremLK on Jul 28, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

gotta love it...

also if we go 3 or 4 teams, i hope its PHI/TB/HOU or with tex in there…they got nice pieces there too!

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very interesting

That’s unexpected. Hope there’s a bidding war!

The link to the source is here by the way. Per FOX 26 Houston.

by OremLK on Jul 28, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh, weird. Got some lag on my first post, though it wasn’t going to show up.

by OremLK on Jul 28, 2010 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m getting a lot of lag, too.

"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"

by DrewRusse on Jul 28, 2010 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man, I gotta say that this all pretty exciting.

I just hope he gets traded before Friday—I’m going to the beach all day, and I’m pretty sure my girl will get real tired of me asking her to check trade rumors on her phone every 20 minutes.

"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"

by DrewRusse on Jul 28, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

that, or a data plan for my own phone

"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"

by DrewRusse on Jul 28, 2010 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

So what kind of offer does everyone think they made?

"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"

by DrewRusse on Jul 28, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

A token offer. Probably just testing the Astros to see if they’ve become discouraged about a deal with the Phillies.

Clearly it wasn’t an overwhelming offer, or else it’d be a done deal.

by AstroAndy on Jul 28, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aren't the Rangers on credit from MLB?

If they are AND they’re still pursuing players, they’re just abusing the privilege after acquiring Cliff Lee.

by mike_o on Jul 28, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

from mr heyman

#jays want big prospect from #mets, too, for downs. mets like myers but told houston wants to keep him since oswalt will go

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 7:54 PM CDT reply actions  

#Royals get C Lucas May and P Elisaul Pimentel from #Dodgers. #MLB

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

They didn’t give up any key pieces or any significant amount of payroll, so they can still be players for Oswalt, if it was ever possible in the first place.

by OremLK on Jul 28, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pods for Meh
Kevin Goldstein Kevin_Goldstein
  
Dear Tweeters: Lucas May does not have great power, and Elisaul Pimentel does not have big upside. You may now return to your evening.
BenBadler
  
New #Royals C Lucas May could be a decent backup in the big leagues. That’s probably his upside, though

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Jul 28, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

BenBadler
  
New #Royals RHP Elisaul Pimentel is another fringy guy, 89-93, inconsistent slider and changeup that flash avg at times

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Jul 28, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

JIM BOWDEN JimBowdenXMFOX
  
L May is a back-up catcher at best and Pimental fringe prospect…nice deal for Podsednik by Colletti to give them depth with Manny’s hammys

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Jul 28, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looks fair. Couple of grade C types with an outside shot to be decent big league guys. About what you would expect for Scotty Pods.

by OremLK on Jul 28, 2010 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

if he was traded to NL CENTRAL

KC could ask for more…because Pods is an astros killer

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

from buster olney

Heard this: A third team that was involved in the Phillies-Oswalt talks has backed out. Philly-Houston now dealing head to head #trades

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 8:31 PM CDT reply actions  

so, we’re right back where we were an hour ago! That’s twitter for you!

by rjg6891 on Jul 28, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

A little different than what everyone else is talking about, but

anyone see anything promising coming out of AAA? I see bogey, and he’s putting up a nice average. The pitching is horrible there from what i see. Hopefully these low A guys and AA guys will be up there soon, including the future draft picks, and RR can have a team that has some pretty good prospects.

by MatthewT on Jul 28, 2010 8:34 PM CDT reply actions  

The most interesting players at Round Rock got called up in June (Castro and CJ, and to a lesser extent, Bourgeois). But Bogey, DeLome, and Locke all profile as solid bench players/fringe starters, and Daniel Meszaros could be a good relief pitcher.

by OremLK on Jul 28, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

It makes me sad…especially since I’m going to see them in Nashville Saturday.

by Subber10 on Jul 28, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

from heyman

phillies remain favorites for oswalt. yankees checked in on roy only once. but its always hard to rule them out entirely.

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 8:56 PM CDT reply actions  

The Phillies and Astros have intensified talks in the last 24 hours about a deal that would send Roy Oswalt to Philadelphia, sources said. But major financial obstacles remain that could still stand in the way of this trade being completed before Saturday’s trading deadline.

Stark

Article goes on to say that the package would include J.A. Happ and prospects, and they are close to an agreement on what players would be involved. The teams are still far apart on how much money the Astros would send in the deal, though.

by OremLK on Jul 28, 2010 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

So if this is true, it basically sounds like a “Drayton open the damn pocketbook” situation. If a deal doesn’t get done, it will probably be because the Astros weren’t willing to include enough cash in the trade.

by OremLK on Jul 28, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

As well they should be

Every deal has to have a centerpiece.

by AstroAndy on Jul 28, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome

If Singleton is involved (which I’m skeptical of) this would be a feather in Wades cap as Phils claimed Singleton wasn’t available only a few days ago. A deal with Happ & Singleton would be a solid core of a deal and I would assume that the amount of cash sent will determine quality of remaining package.

My question to you guys is how much would you spend (off Oswalts contract) to obtain a guy like: Cosart, Colvin, Rizzotti, H. Garcia….

by baggs on Jul 28, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

My perspective is this

It sounds like the Phillies are the only serious suitor right now. If you don’t trade Roy, you’re going to be paying him to play for a losing team anyway. If money is standing in the way, you pay what it takes to get the deal done, because you’ll still be spending less than you would anyway.

You can wait until the off-season, but then you’re paying $7M for the rest of Roy’s salary this year anyway, and you still might wind up having to kick in cash later. Why not just put that money in the deal with the Phillies now and get it done?

If I were Drayton, I would also be looking at this as one of those rare opportunities to buy prospects, and however many good ones (grade B- or better) the Phils let me pick up by taking on salary, I do it. If I can pick up the rest of Roy’s contract and pillage their farm system of a bunch of top prospects? Go for it. I doubt the Phillies would agree to that beyond a certain point though.

by OremLK on Jul 28, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

as i just posted but in 1 sentence

I agree…why not pay all of oswalt this year…better to trade him get much better in future then to let him sit here and pay him…Id also pay maybe half of next year to get more prospects…u still make money by not having oswalt…you have happ replace oswalt and his money isn’t near oswalt so pay half of oswalt, use some for whatever happs contract is next year, and then you still have leftover of what you were supposed to be paying oswalt for to use in FA…AND You have more prospects

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just get the feeling we should stay away from the 90 to 100 million dollar range for next years payroll budget. This is exactly why we should be overhauling all of these players who have much higher value then they most certainly will next year (i.e. Myers, Keppinger, Wandy of late, Lindstrom if we get the right deal.) I’m just sick of 12 dollar watery leaky margaritas, small beers for 8 dollars and outrageous priced food on a team that isn’t worth a crap. They played well today and have some decent young talent in Pence, Castro and Johnson, but TIME TO OFFICIALLY REBUILD. After exciting drafts and being forced into sell mode without SELLING ANYTHING, I think our owner/tyrant has proved how clueless he really is. I would definitely mark down Saturday afternoon as a date of significance for everyone to judge Drayton as an idiot or a genius.

by SteveBartman_MVP on Jul 28, 2010 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

if your drayton

why not pay rest of oswalts salary this year? to get more or better prospects that should be a no doubter

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 28, 2010 10:49 PM CDT reply actions  

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