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Jeff Bagwell Named Astros Hitting Coach

In a move that's caught everyone by surprise, the Astros have fired Sean Berry as the big league hitting coach and brought in Jeff Bagwell. It's a move that some fans have wanted for most of the season, but the timing seems a tad odd, as the Astros have been winning and hitting better in the past few weeks. 

Berry, famously around here, does not like the more patient approaches at the plate. He's been quoted multiple times about not coaching guys to see more pitches. That's different than swinging at everything and not being patient at all, but I wonder if this played a role in the decision. Berry has been given the option to take another job within the organization, and I can see him becoming a "roving hitting instructor" before being assigned a permanent job in the minors next season.

As for Bagwell, I have mixed emotions about this move. The downside is he's no longer going to be in the booth for those Saturday night broadcasts. His laid-back style and humorous personality really made those games fun, as he and JD sparred with each other. It was also nice to hear from someone who just left the game, to give us stories about Lance Berkman and Roy Oswalt.

On the other hand, his job in the booth has given me plenty of confidence about this promotion. I think Bagwell will bring a unique viewpoint to the job and will work tirelessly with these guys to get their swings working. Will he fix the offense? No, there are too many impatient hitters for that. I do, however, feel like that position could be a boon for the Astros, much like Tom McCraw was in his time with the team back in the late '90s.

The other place where I really think Baggy will help the Astros is in the intangibles like clubhouse chemistry. Bagwell is universally regarded as one of the best guys in the game. The few stories Morgan Ensberg has told about Bagwell behind the scenes tell me he's going to do very well as a coach. He'll keep things loose and set a fine example for younger guys like Jason Castro and Chris Johnson.

Two questions hover in my mind. FIrst, can he wear his old No. 5 jersey? Or since it's retired, does he have to pick another? Second, is this the first step in making Bagwell the manager some day?

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The fact that there was no warning or rumors about this event, making it an apparent surprise to everyone, makes you wonder how it came about. Did Drayton watch and listen to Bagwell during last night’s telecast and impulsively make a move?

by clack on Jul 11, 2010 12:53 PM CDT reply actions  

YYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

A few years too late, but better late than never.

Was shocked when Berry was kept on in the off season after the deconstruction of our old staff.

by baggs on Jul 11, 2010 1:02 PM CDT reply actions  

I imagine it had more to do with Bagwell not wanting to get right back into the game more than the FO deciding when to replace Berry.

by Timothy De Block on Jul 11, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

WOW

I’ve questioned Sean Berry for two years . My thoughts were to bring up the Round Rock batting coach, who seemed to prepareJason Castro and Chris Johnson well. After a few weeks with Sean Berry, both Castro and CJ’s production dropped to zilch. (In one thread I quizzically asked what would happen to CJ and Castro’s batting after few weeks with Sean Berry).

But i did not expect Jeff Bagwell showing up every day to work with batters. I hope this is the greatest baseball move ever made.

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 11, 2010 1:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Richard Justice blasts the move and lambasts Drayton for it....

Justice, who has frequently commended Sean Berry in his columns, says this move “proves that the Astros’ franchise is a joke.” Among his bashing quotes:

Memo to Brad Mills and Brad Arnsberg and Jamie Quirk: Welcome to the Astros, boys. This is how we operate. They give you an impossible job, and then they fire you for not doing it. And the people who actually make all the mistakes keep their jobs.

Here’s who should go, Ed. You. And Tal. And Drayton. You’re the ones who ran the franchise into the ground.

and

All the hiring of Jeff Bagwell means is that Brad Mills won’t be the manager much longer. If Drayton can convince Bagwell to manage, then he’ll call a news conference and announce that things are fixed.

To repeat: Drayton doesn’t get it. He doesn’t get it today. He won’t get it tomorrow.

by clack on Jul 11, 2010 1:08 PM CDT reply actions  

that last sentence was part of the quote…not my statement.

by clack on Jul 11, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Richard Justice...

Is why I stopped reading the Chron sports section (the Astros part, anyway).

by mike_o on Jul 11, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Random observations after reading the Richard Justice article

RJ mentioned firing everybody (including the TV Guys and Milo) but forgot to mention the two radio guys (or at least one of them). I’d get Alan Ashby back or Dierker. That’s a pet peeve and for the most part irrelevant to the bigger issue today.

Sean Berry has not been turned loose. He has the option to remain with the club in some capacity, much like Jose Cruz and Burt Hooten were. The Astros are not as cold hearted as Justice paints them to be.

Sean Berry has been dedicated, but I think he’s basic philosophy (as it leaked out every so often) is unproductive. There must better hitting coaches out there – let’s hope Bagwel is one of them.

For the life of me, I have no clue what Tal Smith does. or how he keeps his job. I doubt he was major player in this move.

I hope Brad Mills is pleased with Bagwell as his hitting coach. Sean Berry was thrust on him. I hope he had some say in who his new batting coach was.

I feel no animosity toward Ed Wade or Drayton McLane for this move. I do wonder if Dave Clark is next.

Ed Wade inherited a disaster from Mr. Tim Purpura. Despite fielding a losing team currently (I cannot even say “bad team” after watching the Pirates in action this week) the future is looking up: the foundation is being put in place.
 
That’s enough for now.

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 11, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thinking back on it now, Bagwell did seem to be critiquing the hitters a little more than usual last night.

by Timothy De Block on Jul 11, 2010 1:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Lol

I picked up on that too.

by Leeaire on Jul 11, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

#5

I think the answer to the number question is a no-brainer: he’ll wear that #5.

by Xan on Jul 11, 2010 2:31 PM CDT reply actions  

They said as much during the broadcast.

by David Coleman on Jul 11, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I figured Berry would not make it through this season. In fact, I was a bit surprised he wasn’t let go during the last offseason when there was a major change in staff. I figured that he was retained, at least in part, out of compassion on Houston’s part…this time last year, he was recovering from kidney cancer.

by AstroAndy on Jul 11, 2010 4:13 PM CDT reply actions  

I can't imagine

him not wearing the #5… There is no rule against him wearing it, so I see no reason why he wouldn’t be able to… seeing him in anything other than 5 would very stupid.

I’m not saying Berry should still be the hitting coach, but he’s not the reason the Astros are hitting .235 as a team. They are hitting .235 as a team because of their talent. There are a few that are underperforming(Berkman, Lee, probably Pence etc), but when it comes down to it… It’s a lack of talent. Nobody in their right mind expected Feliz, Quintero, Manzella, Blum etc to be anything more than average at best. Berkman and Lee are both past the point of a hitting coach doing much for them. Keppinger has been a blessing this season, outperforming what I personally expected.. but nobody should have expected Bourn to hit .285 like last season(we could hope, but not expect it).

That being said, I’m happy Bagwell is back in uniform… just seeing him in the Astros uniform makes me happy. Like others has said, he has a dry sense of humor that will do well with the team… He also brings respect from every player in the league.. not saying Berry didn’t… but Bagwell does. I will miss him on Saturdays.. he’s been a real treat to listen to and I especially love his jabs at Ausmus throughout the season.

As for Bagwell coaching the team… I just don’t see it. Not saying it won’t happen, I just can’t see him as the coach. I think I could see Biggio as their coach before Bagwell(after Bidge finishes his high school coaching for his kids). I could also see Ausmus there 1st… Ausmus has always been seen as a future coatch.

by Stros Bro on Jul 11, 2010 7:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Here is what Charlie over at the Pirates SBN blog had to say:

“Not Pirates-related, but: Jeff Bagwell has been named the Astros’ new hitting coach, reminding us that, while the Bucs may be a disaster, at least we have Houston. Whenever the Astros have a problem, their solution is to call on a veteran. The hold Bagwell and Craig Biggio have had over the franchise is intense – remember Biggio’s embarrassing 3,000-hit legacy tour at the end of his career, when he couldn’t play anymore? Maybe Bagwell turns out to be a great coach – maybe Tommy Manzella starts doing the wide-legged Bagwell crouch stance until his thighs look like tree trunks, and suddenly starts hitting 30 homers a year – but I highly doubt it. This looks like a typical Astros decision – shortsighted and profoundly dull-minded. I’m sure the talk radio crowd will love it.”

by ol Pete on Jul 12, 2010 9:36 AM CDT reply actions  

I’d be that negative too if I had to watch the Pirates day in and day out.

by Timothy De Block on Jul 12, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

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