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0 for the Homestand: Doc Halladay out-duels Roy Oswalt

He deserves better.

Today the Astros showed that they can play competent baseball. They out-hit the Phillies, played error-less ball and shut them out after the second inning. Still, the great equalizer was Roy Halladay who was just as good as advertised in stymieing the Astros en route to the series sweep. In what has to be the most frustrating beginning to any of his professional seasons, Roy Oswalt has lost consecutive starts to the prohibitive NL Cy Young favorites.

JD made a point that I had been thinking about since Game 1 of the series: this Phillies club is as close to the Yankees or Red Sox as the NL gets. In the first two games especially, foul balls, long counts and frustration was the result du jour. This was the case again on Sunday afternoon. Roy O pitched well enough to win, but was challenged every at bat, throwing 114 pitches in six innings. After a rough first two innings, he threw strikes and did what he had to do to keep his out matched team in the game. It would be all for naught, as Halladay threw his 10th complete game since the beginning of the 2009 season.

The Astros were able to scrape across a run in the sixth, when Cory Sullivan grounded into a double play with the bases loaded and nobody out. That wouldn't be the last opportunity to score either. With runners on second and third and but one out, JR Towles grounded a hard hit ball right at Halladay- he looked the runner at third back and tossed to first. A Carlos Lee deep foul ball on the first pitch of the ninth inning could have tied her up, but come on, there was no doubt it wouldn't come back into fair territory.

Well, here we are. No wins yet. Last team in the majors to have a 0 in the W column. Good thing we're on our way to St. Louis, right??? Wandy, Brett Myers and young Mr. Norris have been tagged to stop the bleeding.

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Unfortunately....

it’s gonna take alot more than those guys to stop the bleeding. This is no suprise at all, guys. Business as usual doesn’t get it done in MLB. The good news is…we WILL win our 1st game. The bad news is….I can’t tell you when it will happen.

by titansfan4ever on Apr 11, 2010 4:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Jordan Lyles

Lyles made his real AA debut today and it wasn’t the greatest outing. In 4.2 innings, he gave up 6 hits, 3ER, and one walk, although he did strikeout 4. He also kept the ball in the park. Nevarez struggled with his control in releif. He only got one out, gave up 1 hit and 3 walks, 1 strikeout and no earned runs. Jack Shuck is still impressing at the plate going 2-4 keeping his average over .300.

by Subber10 on Apr 11, 2010 6:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Sounds like poor BABIP luck to me (4:1 K/BB ratio, kept the ball in the park, almost a strikeout per inning).

Nevarez’s second poor showing in a row worries me.

by OremLK on Apr 11, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't even know what that means

maybe it was bad luck, OR maybe he deserved the 6 hits because they were hard hit. We’ll never know unless we actually have tape of the hits. I don’t understand how you could come to that conclusion just by looking at his K, BB, and HR numbers.

by goingforthecorner on Apr 11, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Its hard to tell that from the little bit of data there. The hits very easily could have been balls left up in the zone. I expected some games like this if he jumped a level. Now if he has a couple outings like this, i’ll start to have some concern. If he keeps his K numbers around this it’ll be fine, he’s going to take his lumps in AA early on.

by Subber10 on Apr 11, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

BABIP is Batting Average On Balls In Play. It means he gave up more hits than normal given the amount of strikeouts he got. That usually normalizes over larger sample sizes.

by OremLK on Apr 11, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

But you can’t assess a hard line drive as bad luck. You leave a ball over the middle of the plate, a guy is going to hit it hard. You can use BABIP in large sample sizes. But one game, i don’t put much stock into it. For one game, you need to see LD/GB/AO type data.

by Subber10 on Apr 11, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't understand the relation

High or low strikeout numbers do not directly correlate to how lucky the hits are. Maybe the strikeouts were all against crappy hitters (and we’re talking about 4 strikeouts total out of 14 outs), or he struck out one player multiple times because he sucks or has a hard time reading him. Maybe the strikeouts were a result of a very generous umpire, so even the strikeouts could be considered lucky.

Again, there’s just not enough data here to speculate the start was anything other than a mediocre one.

by goingforthecorner on Apr 11, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

This may be more true for minor league hitters, it’s hard to say. But it has been found to stabilize pretty consistently for major league hitters; e.g. high BABIP is not something that continues to happen (same for low BABIP).

What does seem to happen is a change in batted ball profile. E.g. a pitcher who tends to leave more balls up in the zone and doesn’t have much movement is a fly ball pitcher, and since they give up more fly balls, they’re more prone to the home run.

However, I don’t think it’s been shown that pitchers (at least MLB pitchers) have much control over line drive rate compared to each other. If there is a study of some kind which shows otherwise I’d love to read it because it would adjust a lot of my thinking about pitching.

by OremLK on Apr 11, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fun fact: Brian Bogusevic has yet to strike out (14 plate appearances)

His .929 OPS is almost entirely driven by singles, as he has only one extra base hit, a double, and no walks.

by OremLK on Apr 11, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Luke Scott's OPS is .342 higher than Carlos Lee's

and is making $15 million less. You’re awesome, Drayton! thumbs up

by goingforthecorner on Apr 11, 2010 6:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Luke, Miggy and Wiggy – together again. Highlights had Miggy booting one.

by ol Pete on Apr 11, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Miguel Tejada

had a costly error in the 8th inning. Pretty much cost the Orioles the game as homers were hit afterwords. Looking at the error, he had no idea how to approach that grounder, showing a clear lack of experience defending at 3B

by goingforthecorner on Apr 11, 2010 6:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Lohse looked pretty mediocre. The 5 guy has got some pitches. LHer who has a nice breaking slider. Maybe its because it was the first time the brewers had seen him, but that feels more like an excuse.

by ol Pete on Apr 11, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sweep anyone?

We sweep the Cards I mean.

"In the biographies of men and nations, success often arrives in a mask of failure"

by hunterpencefan on Apr 11, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would be a nice way to restore some faith.

by OremLK on Apr 11, 2010 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

ESPN pounding us

they just compared our offense for the entire season so far to one inning of the Diamondbacks (they had a 13 run inning, while we’ve scored 13 runs all season).

Ouch.

by goingforthecorner on Apr 11, 2010 7:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Pence and Lee are the key to the Astros getting even a minimum level of production out of the offense. Lee looks worse than I’ve ever seen him. Pence looks lost. However, if those two can turn things around and hit some extra bases, I think the rest of the lineup will begin to chip in more than they have. A critical weakness of the Astros offense is that it is so dependent on Pence, Lee, and Berkman for slugging. Berkman is out, and at this point the offense is completely at the mercy of slumps by Pence and Lee.

by clack on Apr 11, 2010 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

THAT'S IT!

No shaving until we get a win! Who’s with me??

The Crawfish Boxes, Astros blogging at its finest.

by Evan Hochschild on Apr 12, 2010 12:30 AM CDT reply actions  

If only I had read this 15 minutes ago

I ran out of razor blades so on my way into work I grabbed some and shaved here. It would of been a good excuse not to shave =(

by Timothy De Block on Apr 12, 2010 7:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

it really is

plus I have finals coming up, so it could double as a streak breaker/finals beard….not really beard, more like patchy blond facial hair

The Crawfish Boxes, Astros blogging at its finest.

by Evan Hochschild on Apr 12, 2010 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Listen, buddy,

Love you though I do, can you grow a beard? Unless things have changed in 4 1/2 years…

The Crawfishboxes
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by Stephen Higdon on Apr 12, 2010 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

hahaha

nope. look to my prior comment, i admit as much. i have the worst of both worlds: the hair on my face grows in quickly, yet never gets thick enough for a beard

The Crawfish Boxes, Astros blogging at its finest.

by Evan Hochschild on Apr 12, 2010 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dunno. That’s kind of scary for me, because my beard grows fairly fast and I don’t know how long the losing streak will last. I had a full beard for almost 10 years when I was younger; but at this point in my life my facial hair is gray, and if the Astros’ losing streak lasts awhile, I might look like one of the homeless guys pushing a shopping cart on the street.

by clack on Apr 12, 2010 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

“Hey look, the unabomber is out of prison”

No, that’s Clack”

by ol Pete on Apr 12, 2010 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would take you up on that, Evan.....

but…..that whole “Rip Van Winkle” look doesn’t really work for me.

by titansfan4ever on Apr 12, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

What should women do?

Not shave their legs?

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Apr 12, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

How about this?

Nobody eats until the Stros win. I need to lose some weight, anyway :-)

by titansfan4ever on Apr 12, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

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