Know Your Astros Relievers: Matt Lindstrom
Let's look at the next reliever in our series, newly acquired right-hander Matt Lindstrom. The 30-year old Indiana native was traded from Florida to the Astros this winter for minor league right-hander Robert Bono and shortstop Luis Bryan.
It was the second time Lindstrom was involved in a trade, as he went from the New York Mets to the Marlins in 2006 with Henry Owens for Adam Bostick and Jason Vargas. Lindstrom made his major league debut in 2007 and was excellent, posting 62 strikeouts in 67 1/3 innings with a BABiP of .332, meaning he was slightly unlucky that season. Lindstrom came back with a strong 2008 season and was even installed as the closer going into 2009. However, an injury during the World Baseball Classic held him back. His ERA blew up as he blew saves and eventually lost his job at the back of the bullpen. The Marlins shut him down for a month, but Lindstrom bounced back to have a solid August and September.
We're going to refer to this scouting report, which Richard Justice got from Ed Wade. To review, here's Lindstrom's report:
| Skill | ||
| Fastball | 80 | 70 |
| Command | 50 | 45 |
| Fastball life | 70 | 55 |
| Slider | 55 | 60 |
| Change | 50 | 45 |
| Overall command | 50 | 50 |
Here are the writeups on Lindstrom. Let's see if we can prove these after the jump:
''Power reliever with closer stuff. Plus fastball that can be overpowering. Runs a hard tilted slider away from right-handed hitters. Primarily a two-pitch guy. Tends to run up high pitch count. Command can be inconsistent. Had a health issue which is resolved. Needs better command.''
Here's the second report on Lindstrom...
''Closing games. Big tall kid. High three-quarter delivery. Power arm. Quick delivery out of stretch. Often rushes, leaving fastball up in the zone. Gets hitters to chase, who will learn in time to stay off that pitch. Needs to get fastball down in the zone more often. Challenges hitters. Will use both sides of the plate. Fastball occasionally will have short cut action. Slider is his next-best pitch. Tight bite with tilt, primarily away from left-handed hitters and occasionally backdoor to lefthanders. Sliders to right-handed hitters when ahead in the count can be chaseable off the outside edge. Good arm. Still a bit of a thrower. Has trouble putting hitters away. Occasional spit-finger, some tumble out of the zone, primarily a show pitch. Still a work in progress as a closer. Like his arm and power.''
What we're looking for is a great fastball and average secondary pitches. Here's the breakdown of Lindstrom's 2009 season:
| Type | Count | Selection | Velocity (mph) | Max Velocity | Vertical (in) | Horizontal (in) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| FF | 606 | 73.9% | 96.3 | 100.2 | 8.35 | -4.93 |
| CU | 164 | 20.0% | 82.4 | 93.4 | -6.23 | 6.24 |
| CH | 39 | 4.8% | 86.3 | 88.1 | 6.12 | -8.01 |
| SL | 8 | 1.0% | 82.0 | 84.2 | -1.37 | 6.67 |
| SI | 3 | 0.4% | 90.2 | 93.0 | 5.19 | -9.16 |
That is an impressive fastball. To hit 100 as a max is the kind of thing we haven't seen around here since the days of Billy Wagner. The only thing that concerns me is Lindstrom uses his fastball a LOT. Almost three-quarters of the time. Which is quite a bit. PItch F/X lists his next pitch as a curveball. Let's look at his movement chart to see why that might be.
Referring to this handy chart, we see that most of his breaking pitches had a ton of vertical drop to them. Looks pretty easy why Lindstrom was described as having a curve. It's a power curve, for sure, since he gets it up there at 82 on average and 93 on occasion. Notice, though, that his slider and his curve have almost the same movement and the exact same speed. There must be something else going on. On to his release point:
Sure, this looks like many of the other release point charts we've seen. I thought so, too, until I looked at it's relationship to the strike zone. Lindstrom comes much more over the top than some of the pitchers we've seen so far. That downward arm action from his delivery would make it harder for a slider to 'slide' horizontally but would make it fall hard vertically. This appears to be what's happening with Pitch F/X's classification. Think of the pitch as a slurve, but with the arm action of a slider. I'm sure Lindstrom holds it like a slider. The ball probably just drops away more.
Another point I found interesting is the scouting report said he uses both sides of the plate. I guess you can see that here, in his average fastball top view.
Is it just me, or does his average fastball go right down Main Street? This is just fastballs to lefthanders, too. For a full top view of his pitches, look no further.
Yes, he does use both sides of the plate, but plenty of those fastballs are of the 'hit it if you can' variety. We all know what happens when you do that...
What about those control issues? Here's a look at his percentages on his pitches:
| Type | Count | Selection | Strike | Swing | Whiff |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| FF | 606 | 73.9% | 66.0% | 49.2% | 9.6% |
| CU | 164 | 20.0% | 50.6% | 30.5% | 10.4% |
| CH | 39 | 4.8% | 66.7% | 61.5% | 25.6% |
His strike rate is pretty terrible for that slurve. His swing rate is even worse but isn't surprising, since he doesn't throw it for strikes very often. He can at least throw his fastball for strikes with consistency but gets way too many swings at it without enough whiffs.
Looks like we're three-for-three on scouting reports. This is where we veer off, though, because I'm most interested in seeing how Lindstrom responded to his injury history last season. We've mentioned before that Lindstrom suffered an injury during the World Baseball Classic that hampered him early in the season. You can see his monthly splits here and here is a chart of his velocity and movement over the past two seasons.
| Count | Velo | Vert | Horiz. | Whiff% | |
| Apr-08 | 73 | 96.8 | 7.66 | -3.23 | 6.8 |
| May-08 | 86 | 96.4 | 9.19 | -2.58 | 14 |
| Jun-08 | 93 | 95.9 | 9.61 | -2.61 | 9.7 |
| Jul-08 | 110 | 97.9 | 8.48 | -2.63 | 10.9 |
| Aug-08 | 157 | 96.6 | 9.13 | -3.5 | 9.6 |
| Sep-08 | 113 | 96.2 | 8.7 | -4.11 | 1.8 |
| Apr-09 | 143 | 95.5 | 8.97 | -3.41 | 7 |
| May-09 | 165 | 96.9 | 8.5 | -4.5 | 6.7 |
| Jun-09 | 92 | 96.9 | 8.02 | -5.91 | 13 |
| Jul-09 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Aug-09 | 108 | 96.2 | 8.16 | -5.65 | 13 |
| Sep-09 | 104 | 96.1 | 7.75 | -6.1 | 10.6 |
His velocity stays pretty constant, around 96 MPH. He's missing data for July because of a DL stint. He came back in August throwing the same gas but with more movement. In fact, starting in June, his horizontal movement increased by about an inch and a half from -4.5 in May to -6.1 in September. This means his fastball was tailing in on right-handers more than it had at any time in the previous two seasons. He also had slightly less vertical movement, meaning he had more natural sink on his fastball.
Combining both more horizontal movement and more vertical drop meant his whiff rate on the fastball sustained itself over 10 percent for the first time in his last two seasons. I really wanted to look at 2007 as a base line, but couldn't find the data. As it is, we're left with the possibility that either the injury or an adjustment to the pitch is giving him more life and a better whiff rate.
Does that sustain itself over both seasons for all his pitches? Why did he throw the slider more in 2009? Let's look at the two seasons' worth of data.
| Selection | 2008 | %Selection | Whiff% | Strike% | 2009 | % Selection | Strike% | |
| FA | 632 | 77.4 | 8.7 | 68.7 | 606 | 73.9 | 9.6 | 66.6 |
| CU | 98 | 12 | 10.2 | 51 | 164 | 20 | 10.4 | 50.6 |
| CH | 35 | 4.3 | 17.1 | 57.1 | 39 | 4.8 | 25.6 | 66.7 |
| SI | 26 | 3.2 | 3.8 | 38.5 | 3 | 0.4 | 12.5 | 33.3 |
| SL | 26 | 3.2 | 23.1 | 69.2 | 8 | 1 | 33.3 | 50 |
| Max FF Velo | 101 | 100.2 | ||||||
First off, I have to mention the fact that Lindstrom hit 101 at one point in 2008. The kid has some serious gas. His whiff rate on fastballs is very similar as it is for the slider. The changeup was just as underused as in 2008, but got a better whiff rate in 2009 (it helps that he threw it more consistently for a strike). I wonder how good he could be if he learned to harness that change instead of the slider. While it looks like the slider is a wicked pitch, his success rate with the change and the way it looks so similar to the fastball in movement leaves me to suspect it could be a killer pitch for him.
But, the main question we see here is that there appears to be no ill effect in his pitching because of the injury. He's just as successful in 2009 as the previous season and there were no lingering issues after he returned from the DL last year.
That makes four-for-four on the scouting reports, huh? What do you see? Are you excited to see a fireballer that may only have two pitches? Could you see him learning a better changeup?
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Good use of the pitch f/X data to examine the period returning from injury.
I liked this trade when it was made. Lindstrom has some risk issues—injury history and command questions—which allowed the Astros to pick up a guy with a high ceiling at a discount. And if he works out, the Astros have a good closer under team control for a couple of years. I think the Astros wanted to trade for Lindstrom in 2008, but when the Marlins traded their closer to the Cubs, the Marlins decided to keep Lindstrom.
Similar to a few closers...
Nice work.
He is similar to several closers. Power arms with an average 2nd pitch. He actually reminds me of Valvede. Jose had a nice fastball with a below average 2nd pitch (‘07 split, ’08,’09 fork), although Jose had better command of his fastball he also used it about 75% of the time.
If he can develop that CH into something close to decent I think he could make some serious progress. plus less stress on arm. He has shown that when healthy he is very effective (FIP: ‘07/2.85, ’08/3.27)
His main concern is base runners, which is a product of BB’s, cut down the WHIP and you have a very respectable closer. I think Lindstrom is the type of guy Arnsberg gets excited about, a high reward project.
I’ve said before, I see him as the sole closer by the ASB.
I hope you're right about Lindstrom, baggs....
I don’t think there’s as much to worry about, health wise, with him as there is with Myers.
by titansfan4ever on Mar 3, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
Good Gamble
There is some high upside here. His fastball is strong but he has to develop a mean secondary pitch and work on command. When he’s on he’s on but when he’s off he’s really off.
I’d like to see him be the set up guy for at least the first half of the year until he demonstrates that command. That’s the route a lot of teams take with these mercurial pitchers. The Cubs did it with Marmol for instance last year, though he’s still a hit or miss thrower with basically one pitch.
Hopefully, Lindy can take the next step. He’s still a pretty valuable arm and a good gamble.
A lot, or most, of the movement changes...
…are sampling issues – no two parks have the same PITCHfx set-up. One approach is to use the relative movement between pitches instead. That is also helpful when you consider that’s what batters experience.

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