Astros Spring Notebook
Lots of doings around the club lately, and none are more important than how this recent string of injuries will affect the 25-man roster. Here's a quick rundown of the positions with the most risk for turnover.
As for the catchers, everyone is weighing in this week. After Mills was quoted as saying "There's clarity," he added he didn't want to name a guy now because he hadn't talked to them. Does that mean Towles is the guy? He has certainly had the best spring of the two and gotten more playing time. I wonder if Mills tipped his hand when he put Towles into the game for Castro on Wednesday. I do expect Towles to start the season at catcher.
With Alberto Arias headed to the DL next week, there is a spot open in the Astros bullpen. Let's break this down, March Madness-style.
Last two in: Samuel Gervacio, Casey Daigle
First two out: Wesley Wright, Wilton Lopez
Next two out: Gary Majewski, Shane Loux
Need more time: Chia-jen Lo
With the performances of Chris Sampson and Jeff Fulchino this spring, the Astros have five of the seven spots sown up. You could make an argument that Tim Byrdak could be cut in favor of Wesley Wright, but the presence of another option year for Wright and the Astros desire to look at him as a starter mean he's probably ticketed for Round Rock. Daigle used an excellent spot start on Wednesday to vault into the lead, over a guy like Wilton Lopez.
Why? Just a hunch right now. Both guys have experience out of the bullpen in the minors. Both are older guys and both are out of options. Daigle seems to be used a little more by Mills right now, though seems like the reporters around the team have Lopez in the lead.
Majewski hasn't been bad, but also hasn't done enough to stand out. I wonder if he'll end up in the Round Rock bullpen as a possible late-inning partner for Lo. This also leaves out a guy like Yorman Bazardo, who was probably pushed out by Felipe Paulino winning the fifth starter's job.
With the middle infielders, there is some competition in the wake of Manzella's injury. Geoff Blum, Jeff Keppinger and Edwin Maysonet have been showing off their skills at short. Blum had a marvelous day on Monday while Keppinger struggled badly on Wednesday. Obviously, Kepp isn't going to be the everyday shortstop, but he's valuable enough on the bench. Blum will probably play more first base in the wake of Berkman's injury, leaving Maysonet with a clear shot to make the team. I also like the idea of him being a Billy Spiers-type utilityman who can play in the outfield as well as the infield. I don't like the idea of cutting Chris Shelton, who's had a good spring, but Maysonet gives the Astros more long-term flexibility.
As for the outfield, with Bourgeois missing even more time, it looks like Cory Sullivan has cinched the fifth outfielder spot. He's hit enough in recent weeks to justify his place and has played center and right field this spring. Plus, he's lefthanded, which we've established before is something the Astros need.
What's in a fifth (starter)?: Earlier this week, Marc Hulett over at FanGraphs posted a couple articles which talked about fifth starters. Basically, it talked about how there really isn't a guy who "should" be a fifth starter. Hulett suggested a rather radical theory to fix this problem: get three guys to start instead.
Now, two pretty respected baseball bloggers (Rob Neyer and Craig Calcaterra) both disagreed with Hulett's assumption. Their points are valid. Not every team will have a prospect, a Quad-A player and a journeyman. The Astros, however? They fit this bill nicely.
While it's great that Felipe Paulino has pitched well enough this spring to win the job, what's to stop him from regressing in May? I hope he breaks through this season and think he has a good shot at doing just that. But, if he only started 20 games, would that be a bad thing? The Astros could match up someone like Wesley Wright with some lefty-dominated lineups and occasionally throw out a guy like Daigle or Brian Moehler. They're still paying next to nothing for the starts and could maybe avoid any regression from Paulino.
I don't think I'd seriously like the team to consider this. At the same time, with the number of people involved in this race now, it's an intriguing idea.
Retro staffs: This article jumps in the Way Back Machine to look at some of the best rotations in history for various reasons. The Astros have a staff that popped up on the lists twice. The 1981 Houston rotation finished fourth in ERA+ at 135, even after being adjusted for park and league contexts. That staff was the best of the 80's and showed up on the list of fewest HR/IP with 0.33
The '81 season was shortened due to a labor strike. The Astros cumulative starting ERA was 2.34. The members of that rotation? Joe Niekro, Don Sutton, Bob Knepper, Nolan Ryan and Vern Ruhle. Also making starts this season were Joaquin Andujar, Bob Sprowl and Billy Smith. If you're counting, that's two Hall of Famers, three All-Stars and a future pitching coach. That's quite a bit of talent.
That's a heck of a rotation. The Astros were 61-49 and finished third in the NL West. The Astros also had 23 complete games and 13 shutouts, including five by Bob Knepper. The best game of the bunch was by Nolan Ryan, though, as he tossed one of his seven no-hitters on Sept. 26, striking out 11 and walking three. Don Sutton followed that up with a two-hitter on the 27th, striking out nine while walking one and giving up a solo home run to Steve Sax. The next highest game score that season was an 89 by Bob Knepper, when he three-hit the Mets on Sept. 2, striking out nine and walking one.
Of course, this same staff had 17 tough losses, when the starter left after a quality start and his team still lost. That might have been because the Astros were eighth out of 12 teams in runs scored that season. They finished six games behind the Reds. This makes those Oswalt, Pettitte, Clemens staffs look lacking in comparison, no?
McTaggart on Mills: When we ran the interview with Brian McTaggart a couple months ago, one of the commenters asked that we get back with him during spring training to see if his opinion of Mills had changed. Here's what he had to say:
Everything you read about Mills’ enthusiasm and energy is true. There is definitely a new atmosphere in camp, and I have to think it’s going to translate onto the field once the season begins. It’s hard to quantify how much difference a manager can make. We’ve yet to see Mills pull strings late in games that count or handles his bullpen, but I have to believe he’s going to make a difference in the W-L columns. At the end of the day, though, it comes down to talent.
Isn't this much better to hear than all the stuff that surrounded Cooper last season?
Walking wounded: No rest for the injury list right now, as the Astros still are missing Michael Bourn, Lance Berkman, Jason Bourgeois, Alberto Arias and Tommy Manzella. Sounds like Yorman Bazardo might be back just in time to be put on waivers, while Manzella, Bourgeois and Bourn all should be back at any time. With three more games on this road trip left, I don't figure we'll see any of them in a spring game until the team is back in Kissimmee on Sunday (if they are able to play by then). Mills said after Wednesday's game that Bourn could be back as early as Friday.
This has been a bad couple weeks for injuries, as we've well chronicled. Interesting question: is there anyone on the team that you have no real injury concerns with? I mean, anyone can get hurt on an awkward slide or a hard-hit ball, but is there anyone who strikes you as less prone to injuries? For instance, I'd think a guy like Hunter Pence is one long fly ball away from crashing into the wall and missing six weeks. Kaz Matsui, on the other hand...
Minoring in PT: Here's an updated list of minor leaguers who have appeared in a spring game so far: Evan Englebrook, Jose Valdez, Fernando Abad, Josh Banks, Henry Villar, Chia-jen Lo, Brian Bogusevic, Chris Johnson, Jason Castro, Edwin Maysonet, TJ Steele, Drew Meyer, Kevin Cash, Alex Romero, Brian Esposito, Lou Santangelo, Koby Clemens, Wladimir Sutil, JB Shuck, Drew Locke, Marco Cabral, Brandon Barnes, Matt Kata, Michael Garciaparra, Mark Ori, Jimmy Van Ostrand, Patrick Urkfitz, David Cook, Daniel Meszaros.
If you haven't seen either of Farmstro's excellent songs he's written this spring about the minor leaguers, here's the first and here's the second. One about The Legend of Jordan Lyles is set to drop Friday. Looking forward to it!
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Hope Shelton makes it....
Looking at the roster, oh and thanks for the article….
The last bullpen spot is going to come down to Daigle and Sammy G. Both are having good springs, but I think Sammy makes it and Daigle goes to RR with Wright to be in the starters. Byrdak is a vet and will get it together and be the lefty specialist IMO.
I agree that Sullivan appears to have the 5th OF spot locked up. Though I have hopes that some how Sutton gets that spot.
If Manzella is ready to go I think Shelton gets the last backup infield spot. He can play first if Berkman is not ready, and looking at potential pinch hitters of Kepp, Blum, Michaels, Sullivan, there is very little power there. Shelton gives the Mills a power bat on the bench.
Maysonet is probably headed to RR, and I hope he gets time at SS, as I’m still not sold on Manzella’s bat.
"now you chunkin' in there.."
I don’t think Daigle makes the team out of ST. The obvious locks are Lindstrom Lyon and Fulchino along with Byrdak. Your right that Gervacio has performed well enough for a spot and they’ll keep sampson. Theres six and your giving that last spot Daigle but i think they’ll give that spot to Moehler as the long reliever.
Wade would not...
eat that contract of $3 Million on Moehler. Which may go down in Astros history as one of the worst deals ever….Still can’t get why he did that. If anyone has an idea why let us know….
"now you chunkin' in there.."
The Astros as an organization have a history of being loyal to players, and have that same reputation around the league as Preston Wilson pointed out when he signed several years ago.
by Timothy De Block on Mar 25, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
thanks...
That does make sense then and may be why they sign him, however if they are only trying to maintain a precedent of loyalty I don’t know if this was the right choice. I wonder then if this is why Wade gets bringing in players with ties to the Phillies? In my humble opinion if you wanna show loyal to players you do it by signing your younger players to longer term deals before they get to free agency. Wandy, Pence, and Bourne come to mind. Showing loyalty to a 38 year old spot starter with an almost 5 era doesn’t seem very cost effective.
"now you chunkin' in there.."
opps on the gramatical errors....typing at work probably not prudent either..:)
"now you chunkin' in there.."
Neither does it make sense for a 41 year old second baseman trying to reach 3000 hits.
by Timothy De Block on Mar 25, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
to answer that
In Biggio’s case it did make sense as he was a local icon who played his entire career here, and was striving for a baseball record very few have achieved. That is hardly the case with Moehler. I didn’t say loyalty to players was a bad thing, just that you should pick and choose your opportunities better.
"now you chunkin' in there.."
Also, there were odd circumstances surrounding Moehler’s contract. His contract for this year was automatically set in stone once he pitched 150 innings last year. He only accumulated that many innings because the rotation and bullpen absolutely collapsed and he had to be counted on to take the ball every fifth day.
I certainly wouldn’t have expected Moehler to pitch that many innings last year…I expected him to be a swing man, handling long relief most of the time and making spot starts. And if one of Mike Hampton, Russ Ortiz, Yorman Bazardo, or Felipe Paulino had been able to absorb more innings last year, Moehler could have stayed in a lower-profile role.
Also, there’s value in knowing that Moehler can handle being in the bullpen or in the rotation without Shawn Chacon-style drama…particularly this season, when we’ll be leaning on two young, unproven pitchers (Paulino, Norris).
I think the Astros both like Moehler’s “clubhouse” impact and think he has value, despite his ERA. They probably think he is capable of producing at a level closer to 2008 than 2009, and I would argue with that notion, but if you accept that view, then Moehler seems like a good safety net for the rotation, given the uncertainties associated with Paulino and Norris.
Berkman
What’s his status? I haven’t heard about it in a while. Been busy with the job and school. As for Daigle, well, I watched the highlights of his outing yesterday. He looks like he has some good stuff. I would actually consider having him on the team Opening Day. I can’t think of anyone better to be honest.
Go Astros
Berkman is improving.
Daigle would only be good on the opening day roster so we can see Jenny Finch in the stands.
by Timothy De Block on Mar 25, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 25, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Berkman also had his knee drained again…I’m thinking he might miss all of April potentially.
by David Coleman on Mar 25, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
second base
2nd base… weak spot on team…lots of choices are better than matsui….can he be traded? would anyone want him?….what about towles at 2b…castro starting…at catcher…we have a good backup catcher…i would keep daigle and moehler in bp…for obvious reasons… wesley wright has not impressed me as starter and he is a marginal reliever…except for lee. the of is going to be fast…bench is looking good… bp is looking good…. sp is looking good…. shelton is a good hand…good hitter…it would be nice to find a place for him… blum is very good…i like him as a super sub… keppinger is good..geez…astros are looking GOOD…i have been fan for 35 years.. and think this is as good a team as any we have had…maybe the best….magnus
I would disagree with your assessment of matsui vs. the other choices (although I’m sure others would disagree with me). Kaz is having a pretty good spring training, and if he can perform as well as he did in 2008 for the Astros, he will be better than the Astros’ other options. Is he tradeable? Given his salary, no. Given Matsui’s injury history, you have to think there is a good chance that other players will get their opportunities to play 2d base if he repeats that pattern.

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