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ST Game No. 16: Houston Astros vs. New York Yankees

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Grapefruit League record (thought meaningless): 8-7

Today's starters:

Lineups will be posted as soon as we see them.

Listen to the game here. If you are in the Houston area, you can listen to the game on 790 KBME.

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Yay! It's on Fox Sports today.

By the way, I think the team record you show is incorrect.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 12:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Dave sets these to post ahead of time

So he didn’t know what the record would be

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by Evan Hochschild on Mar 20, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

and on MLB.com

with JD and Bill Brown commenting

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yankees Brett Gardner starts off with a bunt off Myers. (Brett vs. Brett.)

Quintero picks him off at first base.

JD and Brownie point out that his game is in the Astros’ complex, but you would think it was the Yankees home ground. Lots of Yankee fans.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 12:06 PM CDT reply actions  

2 straight walks

Myers with rough start

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Myers with early control problems. Walks Nick Johnson and Texeira.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

A-Rod hits into GDP. Good quick work by Manzella and Matsui, although not a really hard play.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Michael Bourn nursing slight injury not playing today

Michael Bourn, Jason Bourgeios and Carl Crawford were on same little league team!

I could coach that team

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 12:15 PM CDT reply actions  

wow

Someone should see if one of the parents has a picture of those guys.

by ol Pete on Mar 20, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brad Mills being interviewed

This may be the first time I heard him speak (except maybe when he was introduced as a manager). He said the expected – good spring – team coming along good. Berkman doing well,.

Patty a with Drayton – the whole crew in town

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 12:27 PM CDT reply actions  

First in-game interview with Mills. He seems like a matter of fact guy. Asked about his philosophy (small ball vs. wait for HR), he says he hopes he can’t be pegged with a particular philosophy. He said it will depend on whatever helps score the most runs, given the particular line up each day. It might depend on things like how the wind is blowing. He wants to do the most with the talents and skills of the players who are available. He said the Astros have a few players who can run playing today, they might allow them to run—-but we don’t want to make too many outs on the basepaths.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 12:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Astros batting lineup

1.Bourgeois, CF
2. Matsui, K, 2B
3. Pence, RF
4. Lee, C, LF
5. Johnson, C, 3B
6. Sullivan, DH
7. Shelton, 1B
8. Manzella, SS
9. Quintero, H, C

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 12:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Gardner (Yankees) tripled to left

Carlos Lee slow gettinG to the ball in the corner.

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 12:37 PM CDT reply actions  

2 run double by A-Rod. Carlos Lee loping lackadaisically allowed an extra run to score.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 12:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Bah

A-Rod goes down and makes weak contact with a sinker…two runs score

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by Evan Hochschild on Mar 20, 2010 12:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Lee

Man it kills me watching Lee play in LF. Possibly the worst fielder in the game

My first mistake was assuming you knew what I was talking about.

by Shamus on Mar 20, 2010 12:44 PM CDT reply actions  

That would be Adam Dunn (assuming you limit it to guys who actually play a position on the field).

by OremLK on Mar 20, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Myers with strike 3 on Cano. Nice looking breaking pitch. Myers’ stuff looks pretty good today, even if the results don’t.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 12:45 PM CDT reply actions  

What would happen if a starting pitcher

tells the manager he would rather Lee not play left when he pitches?

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 12:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Myers

He also looks like he was very upset with both of those plays by Lee. He was raddled but came back well. I don’t like when pitchers whine on the mound. Hope that doesnt become a problem

My first mistake was assuming you knew what I was talking about.

by Shamus on Mar 20, 2010 12:47 PM CDT reply actions  

hahaha

JD’s dad is a hardass

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by Evan Hochschild on Mar 20, 2010 12:59 PM CDT reply actions  

JD delivers birthday cake to Patty in the Astros dugout

Cake was dropped a few mintues before delivery and looks a little disheveled

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 1:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Grounder which Chris Johnson fails to corrall. Lee tries to make slick play, but it bounces out of his hands for a little embarassment. Run scores. 4-0.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 1:01 PM CDT reply actions  

NCAA update

St Mary’s leads Villanova 38-31 at Halftime

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 1:04 PM CDT reply actions  

and he steals 2d.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pence doubles him home. First pitch swing.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lee singles him home. 4-2.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

A-Rod doubles toward Carlos Lee again (who is getting a work out). runners on the corner with 1 out.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Myers still pitching in the fifth inning

Is this the farthest any Astros starter has gone this spring?

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 1:26 PM CDT reply actions  

as best I can recall. JD guessed he would be allowed to throw 90 pitches.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Keppinger doubles. Looked initially liked a HR to left to me, but it just missed going over the wall.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 1:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Manzilla

If I had to guess his injury, I think it is the dreaded hip flexor or upper-ham/glute. I suspect him to be out for more than today.

My first mistake was assuming you knew what I was talking about.

by Shamus on Mar 20, 2010 1:34 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought maybe ankle sprain…but I may be projecting my own ankle sprain (which I’m still getting over)…

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

strained right quadricep is the diagnosis.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Matsui with groundout RBI….Matsui barely beat throw to prevent DP.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kepinger scored

Yankkees muff the double play attempt. They get the lead runner at second but Matsui beats the relay

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 1:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Surprise Surprise

Astros lead on 2-BRBI double by Hunter Pence

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 1:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Lee hits groundball up the middle for a single, and rampaging Pence scores as the throw comes home.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

2 run double by Pence...Astros lead 5-4

I thought that ball was over the fence, but it bounced back onto field. Line drive…no cheapie at all.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 1:40 PM CDT reply actions  

6-4 Houston

as Lee singles home Hunter Pence

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 1:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Daigle pitching for Astros

Struck out first two batters

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 1:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Astros have 44 players in camp

Have to cut 19 before opening day

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 1:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Yankees get two hits off Daigle

Quintero throws out runner trying to steal third to end the inning

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 1:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Sullivan with pretty bunt hit and then a stolen base...

Don’t think he didn’t notice Jason Borgeois’ stolen base earlier.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 1:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Manzells

Strained right quadricep

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 2:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Quadricep is a series of muscles upper leg

Could be a strain or tear -Depending on severity , Tommy Manzella will be out 2 or 3 days or up to 6 to 10 weeks .

It didn’t look too severe as he left the field, but no official report yet on the severity.

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is what I found (about strained quadriceps)

Grade 1

    * Some stretching with microtearing of muscle fibers.
    * Recovery can be complete in 10-21 days.

Grade 2

    * Partial tearing of muscle fibers.
    * Recovery can take up to 1-2 months.

Grade 3

    * Complete tearing (rupture) of muscle fibers.
    * Recovery can take more than 3 months.
    * Surgery may be needed to repair the torn muscle fibers.

I’m assuming it’s grade 1 or 2 because it didn’t look that painful. Hopefully just a mild strain and he can be back in there by opening day.

by OremLK on Mar 20, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Different research results

The info I found said 2 or 3 days for Grade 1 or 2 and 6-12 weeks for Grade 3.

2 or 3 days is big difference from 10 to 60 days

Let me try again

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

here's one (yet another range of days)

How long does a quadricep injury take to heal ?

Torn ligaments and tendons require as long to heal as fractured bones do.
The average healing times are: (1) mild strain – 2 to 10 days, (2) moderate strain – 10 days to 6 weeks, (3) severe strain – 6 to 10 weeks. The complications listed above are more likely to occur in the case of repeated injuries.

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

So it could be anywhere from 2 days to 2 months based on this? I’d guess it’s not very severe, in any case… I bet he’ll be fully healthy opening day.

by OremLK on Mar 20, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's my feeling

Probably sooner

but it is a reminder how quickly a player can be sidelined

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Daigle gets out of it with a K. I’m not sure what pitches Daigle throws…but some of his breaking pitches look like a forkball or similar pitch.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

NCAA Upset

St Mary’s 75 Villanova 68

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Yankees muff another double play

Get Bourgeois at second then bad over throw to first

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 2:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Yankees’ 2d baseman was overturned by the Astros’ runners down the line (I think it was Maysonet as the PR). I think that had an effect.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Surprised that Daigle came out for third inning. Yankees score a run on a sac fly.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh, I suppose that was Bourgeois running down the line who roughed up the 2d baseman.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 2:28 PM CDT reply actions  

T.J. Steele drops a ball in CF and Yankees get runner on 2d. It wasn’t an easy catch, and Steele was showing good speed, but the ball went off his mitt.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 2:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Did they call that a hit?

by jmike on Mar 20, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it was ruled a hit. I don’t see any errors in the boxscore.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

starts off with a hot shot off Loux’s body….ball rolled in front of mound and both Loux and Q ran into each other getting to it. Q tried an off-balance throw and threw the ball away, with runner to 2d.

Ruled hit and error.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry, that wasn’t Q in at catcher…Kevin Cash is catching.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yanks score on sac fly. Good running catch by T.J. Steele.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

infield hit gets just past Meyer at 3d. Meyer is upset as he lays out for the ball.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Final out on a very good diving catch in CF by Steele.

by clack on Mar 20, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

great play

showing some of that athleticism everyone has been talking about

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by Evan Hochschild on Mar 20, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Astros WIN 8-6

Nice having JD and Brownie and Patty back (and TV and a win)

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 2:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Hmm... maybe worse than we thought for Tommy
Mills called it “a pretty good strain.”

“I tweaked it, so it’s going to be a little bit sore, but other than that, I’m just going to kind of wait,” Manzella said. “I think tomorrow I’m going to be able to tell how sore it will actually be. But I just iced it a bunch, so it’s going to feel stiff from doing that. I’m just going to see if it loosens up tomorrow.”

Link

by OremLK on Mar 20, 2010 3:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Brad Mills much more pessimistic about Astros’ Manzella than the shortstop himself. Manager things he’ll miss at least a week. -Z

Link

by OremLK on Mar 20, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Houston Chronicle report

Tommy Manzella is expected to miss at least a week..

The Astros expect to know more about Manzella’s condition on Sunday, but general manager Ed Wade said trainer Nate Lucero gave an early indication.

“Nate said we’re probably looking at a week to 10 days,” Wade said.

Manzella said he was not sure how much time he would miss.

" we’ll see how it goes day to day," Manzella said. “It didn’t feel like I got it too bad.”

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by Joe in Birmingham on Mar 20, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

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