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How the Astros Can Make Lemonade in 2010

DQ wrote a great post last Thursday about what could go wrong with the Astros in 2010. We had originally discussed writing two companion pieces as 'season outlooks,' one positive and one negative. He jumped on the grenade that was the negative approach and clack wrote an excellent positive article, giving us a nice perspective on the 2010 season.

What I want to do here is a little different. As clack talked about in his comment on DQ's post, there are ways in which bad things can happen to the Astros in 2010 but still have good outcomes. That's what I'm setting up here: five potentially damaging scenarios and how the Astros can turn them into advantages. Heck, they may even be able to use them to fuel a contender.

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Scenario 1 -- Roy Oswalt is injured: Yes, this would be every bit as damaging as DQ laid out. What if it didn't mean Brian Moehler picked up his slack, however? I linked to a story on Thursday about Farmstro Fernando Abad being a darkhorse rotation candidate this spring. What if the Astros moved him into the starting rotation with this kind of scenario in mind? Abad does many things that transition well to the majors. He has great control and doesn't give up many home runs. He's also a 'crafty' left-hander, which gives some added balance to the rotation.

What if the addition of Abad works like Dontrelle Willis' meteoric rise in 2003? Let's say Abad slaps up a line of 3.50 ERA, 120 innings, 100 strikeouts and 30 walks. Those numbers are right in line with his minor league performance. In fact, his walk total is higher than the last couple seasons at Lexington, Lancaster and Corpus. Even the increase in innings pitched isn't outrageous, as it would only be 30 or so over his 2009 total.

It would make one heck of a good story, no?


Scenario 2 -- Brandon Lyon misses the season: This would probably tax the back of the bullpen quite a bit. If he or Lindstrom went down, the Astros would be left struggling for options. Good thing they have a couple of cracker-jack relievers down in the minors, right?

Best case here is either Chia-jen Lo, Daniel Meszaros or even sleeper candidates like Michael Schurz or Ashton Mowdy make a jump to the big leagues. All four have the stuff to be late-inning closers. All four could be ready in a hurry, as Meszaros, Schurz and Mowdy all have extensive college experience and Lo has pitched for his national team. Plus, we're only talking about filling in for 50 innings, tops. If Lyon is slated to close games, he's not pitching any more than that. If both of them go down, there's always guys like Wesley Wright, Matt Nevarez, Henry Villar, Evan Englebrook and Wilton Lopez who could fill the gaps. Lest we forget, Slammin' Sammy Gervacio could easily fill those Lyon innings with or without an injury.

While having a solid bullpen could be a cornerstone of this team, relievers are definitely its most fungible part. With the quality of arms waiting in the wings and Ed Wade's penchant for finding good ones anywhere, I think even a worst case scenario in the bullpen will work out just fine. 


Scenario 3 -- Tommy Manzella is ineffective; Kaz Matsui is hurt: One of two things happens here: Wladimir Sutil gets called up and does a yeoman's job or the Astros make a trade. Jeff Keppinger gets pressed into service for a while, but I'm sure Brad Mills wants him on the bench, not as an everyday guy.

Sutil is who he says he is. With great range and a solid arm, Sutil plays good defense at short. He also has experience at second and third base, so he could easily slot into Kepp's bench role if needed. You're probably only going to get a line like .250/.320/.320 out of him because he has absolutely no power. He doesn't strike out much and takes his share of walks. Overall, he's every bit the player Edwin Maysonet is and could have a higher ceiling.

Imagine both of them manning the middle of the infield? I guarantee their production would just about equal what Manzella and Matsui would produce together if healthy. If nothing else, the Astros play a zero-sum game here and are no worse off than before this scenario happens.


Scenario 4 -- Carlos Lee is injured: Losing our cleanup hitter would be devastating. DQ didn't even get around to mentioning this. Lee provides protection for Berkman and clogs the bases ahead of Pence, meaning Hunter can't steal bases willy-nilly. Both are equally important roles.

What happens if he goes down? Most likely, Jason Michaels slides into his every day role. What if Collin DeLome get the call? The Buna native has prodigious power but strikes out a ton. He's more athletic than Lee and could combine with Bourn and Pence for the rangiest Astros outfield since Luis Gonzalez, Steve Finley and Eric Anthony.

DeLome has enough power to protect Pence and Berkman in the five hole, but is probably best suited for the sixth spot. Bumping Pence and Feliz up a notch would take away power behind Berkman, but might raise the OBP just a tad. Overall, it might not damage the offense as much as you think.

Just think: if DeLome really gets into a groove early in major league time, he could make quite a splash. Home run hitters always get noticed. If he hits five in two weeks, how much confidence would that give the Astros? How much defensive value does he provide over Carlos?

If it happens, it'd be disappointing. More than any other position, though, the Astros are prepared for this.


Scenario 5 -- Young pitchers (Norris, Paulino, Arias, Fulchino) don't pan out: Talk about disappointing. A Bud Norris/Felipe Paulino collapse could be just as damaging for our collective fan psyche as if Nolan Ryan had left for the Yankees or Braves or something. And yet...

What if the Astros saw something like this on the horizon and traded a guy like Luis Cruz or Villar for Toronto's Dustin McGowan? The Astros automatically get a pitcher with major league experience who pitching coach Brad Arnsberg is familiar with. If he cuts down on his walks a bit, McGowan is every bit the third starter. As it is, I'd take a 4.00 ERA in 160 innings in the fourth or fifth spot in the rotation. Since he' s out of options, McGowan wouldn't cost as much as you'd think.

While this situation would be disappointing for the young guys, it is exactly the kind of thing that Gerry Hunsicker used to do. These shrewd little under the radar trades in spring training for guys like Billy Spiers, Mike Lamb and Brandon Backe can pay off in a big, and unexpected, way. Wade has shown tentative signs of doing this in the past couple seasons, but this season could prove it beyond a doubt.


I wrote this article pretty quickly, not because I didn't put enough time into it. Instead, it was just easy to envision these scenarios. After all, every baseball team has these lucky bounces during the season. Guys like Ben Zobrist appear out of nowhere to save a season. The Astros haven't had any luck in this department the past couple of seasons. With a couple feel-good stories, I could definitely see them flirting with .500 and a wild card berth come August. Of course, it's also the spring and everyone knows that Hope Springs Eternal. I just hope my optimism will stand the test of the next six months.

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Your description of Carlos Lee’s role in the lineup made me laugh.

by clack on Mar 1, 2010 7:25 AM CST reply actions  

Scenario 4 seems like a bit of stretch, but not out of the realm of possibility.

Scenario 5 I think dooms the season no matter how you look at it, unless someone like Abad steps up, and you still have Moehler taking over a starting spot in the rotation.

by timmy_ on Mar 1, 2010 10:21 AM CST reply actions  

Scenario 4—I think it depends on who is hitting well in AAA. Most likely scenario for Lee injury: Michaels becomes primary starter in LF, and Astros choose from Bourgeois, Alex Romero, Bogusevic as call up for back up duty or occasional starting. Bourgeois and Romero have major league experience and might be most likely call up if they are hitting well. (But they would have to be added to 40 man roster…so maybe that works against them.) DeLome may be less likely, since it’s his first year in AAA, but if he is hitting a lot of bombs, who knows? ZIPS doesn’t think much of DeLome: projected at .208, .267, .359, and lists Reggie Abercrombie as his most similar player. (And Reggie did get called up in 2008 when Lee went down…)

by clack on Mar 1, 2010 10:49 AM CST reply actions  

And that’s the thing. It’s not likely at all that a guy like DeLome or Gaston suddenly makes a breakthrough and gets called up to the majors. But, it’s at least a slight possibility. It’s the kind of thing people talk about when they say a team would rather be lucky than good.

by David Coleman on Mar 1, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

stockpile of OF in RR

I think the front office has tried too hard to get some major league experienced OFers to compete for the 5th spot and will now dampen development. We now have delomme, locke, and bogusevic developing and needing to play everyday at AAA but we have romero and borgeouis and ramirez needing the at bats so they are prepared for call ups…thats already 6 OFers and i think there are others that im forgetting about but cant look it up cause im sitting in class on my phone…I know it was discussed that borgeouis might be switched to 2nd, so does this abundance at AAA and the 2nd base vacancy from vallejos injury really open up this opportunity?

by Subber10 on Mar 1, 2010 11:16 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

When the Astros initially picked up Bourgeois off waivers, they mentioned that he may be able to play some 2d base. So, I would think that could be a possibility. Assuming Sutil plays short in AAA, who is available at 2d base? German Duran and a minor league pick up from the Mariners, Oswaldo Navarro, seem to be the only other candidates.

In my post above, I forgot to mention Locke, who also could be a candidate for LF call up if Lee were injured…again, depending how well he is hitting in AAA. I had almost forgotten the Astros had Alex Romero until I was looking at the ZIPS player projections. He probably has the best ML projection of any of the AAA outfielders, although that’s not saying a lot. Romero is only 26 years old, and he had a good AAA season last year (.800+ OPS), and it earned him a call up for the second half by the D-Backs (where he wasn’t great).

by clack on Mar 1, 2010 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Mitch Einertson

May also factor into the mix as well. He wasn’t impressive at AA with a .710 OPS but AA will just about be full as well with OFers. Gaston, Steele, Shuck will all be in AA and be taking most of the starts but guys like Brandon Barnes and Josh Flores will likely be back at Corpus as well.

Another guy i didn’t think about with 2nd base is Drew Meyer. Former 1st round pick by i think Texas, i’m not gonna bother looking it up, but he’s much older, currently 28 yrs old. But, he did perform well this year with .362 OBP in 120 games. Not bad. I wouldn’t consider him a prospect by any means but i’m sure he’ll be getting similar amount of starts at 2nd this year in RR if he continues to play like that.

by Subber10 on Mar 1, 2010 5:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Is Einerston still with the Astros’ organization? I’m not clear what the Astros’ intentions would be after his drug suspension last year. I didn’t see him on Farmstro’s list for the Astros’ minor league spring training camp.

by clack on Mar 1, 2010 10:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I looked it up on the hooks website, hes not listed on the teams roster, and the last transaction was he was removed from active roster. So, your right he may be done. But i forgot about Nick Moresi and we signed Ray Sadler to a minor league contract at the same point. I don’t know if he will still be with the organization this year.

by Subber10 on Mar 1, 2010 11:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Alright i need to do more research before i post. Sadler is gone via minor league free agent and Moresi was drafted in rule V minor league phase. But, i forgot about signing cory sullivan, david cook, and freddy parejo to minor league contracts.

by Subber10 on Mar 1, 2010 11:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Drew Meyer

Here are his minor league numbers.

He’s been an up and down kind of guy, but I like him as an option in case Manzella falters. He’s going to have to light up AAA though to get a look though.

by timmy_ on Mar 2, 2010 7:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Wade mentioned Bourgeois' infield flexibility....

in today’s article on Bourgeois.

“We’re going to continue to look at him in the outfield, because we know he can play some infield positions, and if he increases his versatility he might be an alternative to consider,” general manager Ed Wade said.

I was intrigued by Wade’s reference to infield positions—plural. Over his career, Bourgeois has played the following games at these non-outfield positions:

SS 119
2d 540
3d 6

Most of the shortstop work was prior to his initial AAA season in 2005. But he has been used occasionally at 2d base in recent years.

by clack on Mar 3, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Interesting.

I’m skeptical that he has the glove for shortstop, but I could see him being an average defender at 2B, maybe. Projection systems like his offense compared to our other second base options (depending on where you think Kaz is going to land)… they have him at close to MLB average, and based on his minor league stolen base numbers, he’s very fast. He’d be a good #2 hitter.

by OremLK on Mar 3, 2010 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

I hate to admit it, but....

scenario #5 seems like the most likely to happen. Just don’t say, when it happens, “Man, if we only would have had any idea”. We need to be making preparations NOW!!!

by titansfan4ever on Mar 1, 2010 5:26 PM CST reply actions  

This isn't really related, but...
“I thought Fulchino was the second most valuable pitcher last year behind Wandy [Rodriguez],” Wade said.

Oh, Ed. Why do you have to make it so hard to love you.

Nothing against Fulchino, but man, what a stupid statement.

by OremLK on Mar 2, 2010 1:27 AM CST reply actions  

Didn’t they give Fulchino some sort of Astros MVP award? Maybe Rookie of the Year?

by David Coleman on Mar 2, 2010 8:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Rookie of the Year

by timmy_ on Mar 2, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Wade loves his relievers and he loves his grit.

by clack on Mar 2, 2010 6:14 AM CST reply actions  

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