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Pitching Mechanics, Brad Arnsberg and the Letter W: The effect of all three on the Astros pitching staff

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The SBN blog, DrivelineMechanics, our baseball scouting blog, had a post earlier in the week concerning the Toronto Blue Jays' pitchers and how they were a "pitching coach's nightmare". Well, it just so happens that their old pitching coach, Brad Arnsberg, is our new pitching coach. David wrote an extremely well done piece last year about Arnsberg, and I'm not going to try to add to it. That being said, this most recent post about the Jays links to a pitching mechanics web page that is extremely, extremely interesting in my opinion.

The author, Chris O'Leary, does a fantastic job of explaining one of the more common mechanical flaws that face pitchers: the "Inverted W". As someone who has never played organized baseball, I love to find articles and studies like this because frankly I like to learn about areas of the game that are not readily accessible to the common fan. O'Leary states his case thusly:

I believe that pitchers who make the "Inverted W" are at a significantly higher risk of experiencing shoulder -- and in some cases also elbow -- problems.

At first blush, one would assume that if this motion causes significant injuries to pitchers, it would most likely be a bad habit that pitchers pick up during their formative years, while they play for managers and coaches who lack the expertise to teach them otherwise. Rather, this is a motion that is taught with regularity and as O'Leary notes, is praised by those in the pitching mechanics industry. John Smoltz, Kerry Wood and Mark Prior are three of the bigger name arms that have this inverted W motion and have suffered serious elbow injuries. Whether this is coincidence or causation is left up to interpretation.

The preferred, in O'Leary's estimation,  motion for a pitcher is for the hurler to keep his elbows below his shoulders, thus creating the inverse of the Inverted W, a "Regular W". In getting into position to throw the ball, this motion reduces the amount of strain of the ligaments of the throwing shoulder, and lessens the force with which the pitcher's upper arm rotates outward. Essentially, this motion is 1) more compact, and 2) alleviates pressure on the upper arm and shoulder.

While the DrivelineMechanics post was made in January 2010, O'Leary's post was made in July of 2007. This is important to me because at the end of his post, O'Leary discusses the pitcher's whose motions he thinks are less prone to creating arm injuries, and those whose mechanics could potentially damage their pitching arm.

Pitchers whose mechanics were positive included veterans Mike Mussina and Roy Oswalt, a young pitcher named Dan Haren, and a pitcher who was in his first season of major league ball- Tim Lincecum. Exactly one year before SI writer Tom Verducci penned his now famous article about Tiny Tim and his ridiculous mechanics, Chris O'Leary had seen enough of Lincecum to believe that he had the sort of motion on the mound that would allow him to not only remain healthy, but perhaps generate the high velocity that a man his size possibly couldn't muster if he was an Inverted W style pitcher.

Anthony Reyes and Joel Zumaya were two other pitchers who O'Leary thought injuries may be in their future. In all both cases he was right.

Now, can Brad Arnsberg be blamed for the Blue Jays' problems, or could it just have been an organizational wide problem? After all, it isn't as if a pitcher is drafted and immediately dumped on the pitching coaches' doorstep. Most guys go through at least four pitching coaches before he reaches the bigs, so perhaps these negative habits developed long before these problem arms went north of the border. If nothing else, this is something to keep an eye on in our own pitchers this season, especially our young starters.

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A couple of the Blue Jays’ pitchers shown in that article were just acquired in 2009 (Drabek and Morrow). Another factor to keep in mind is that ML pitching coaches usually refrain from making major changes to a pitchers’ mechanics. Those issues usually are addressed in the minor leagues; and the major league coach is more likely looking to correct minor flaws in the pitcher’s motion. Most major league pitching coaches are more involved in teaching the mental/tactical aspects of pitching.

by clack on Feb 7, 2010 6:26 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I have seen lots of discussion on the inverted W. Smoltz is actually used as support for the method, since he was a great pitcher for a decade before he had any serious injury problems from it. It also is ‘supposed’ to help with things like velocity and movement, though I’m not sure that’s been proven more than anecdotally yet. I also agree that this seems to be something taught to a pitcher when they first enter the system or in amateur ball, instead of something a major league coach teaches them. I get the impression that a major league coach is more interested in maintaining mechanics that work, or by tweaking them just a bit when they aren’t.

Interesting read, though, while we wade through that commercial showcase tonight…

by David Coleman on Feb 7, 2010 10:21 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Needless to say, there is disagreement among pitching experts on mechanics issues. Mark Pryor was widely heralded as having the “ideal pitching mechanics” when he was drafted and through the early part of his career. He was coached by Tom House, who has quite a following among pitchers (including Nolan Ryan and Randy Johnson), and whom is widely credited with instilling Pryor with supposedly “ideal” mechanics. Anthony Reyes (another USC pitcher) was also coached by House. So, I have read some people who point to this commonality as a reason to question the ideal mechanics notion. Before we get to more recent notions about Lincecum’s mechanics, the most widely stated view of scouts when he first came up was that he is an injury waiting to happen. Personally, I don’t know who is right on most of these mechanics issues…I just know that people who think they are experts disagree.

I don’t know how much reliability we can attach to saying specific pitchers suffered injuries, and therefore they demonstrate the problem with specific mechanics. The intervening variable, so to speak, is that certain individual pitchers may be physically predisposed (by genetics, etc.) to breaking down or pitching a long time.

by clack on Feb 7, 2010 11:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Open mind

I think it’s important for young pitchers to keep an open mind when it comes to pitching mechanics. They would cut themselves short if they came in with an attitude like, “I’ve been pitching since I was 7 & I know everything there is to know about it”. They should be willing to learn more & be willing to take advice from someone who just might know what he’s talking about. Don’t EVER get to the point where you think you “know it all”. BTW, that applies to every aspect in life…not just baseball.

by titansfan4ever on Feb 7, 2010 10:23 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

nice work, baggs

feel free to give us your thoughts in a fan post. we’d definitely like to hear your thoughts.

The Crawfish Boxes, Astros blogging at its finest.

by Evan Hochschild on Feb 7, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This seems like a W

I like the concentration and determination though, which isn’t to say I don’t hope he goes Turnbow.

by ol Pete on Feb 7, 2010 12:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s hard to tell from that angle; he’s leaning over so that his shoulders are diagonal to the ground—see what I mean?

The elbow is higher up, but it may not actually be above the shoulders in the sense of how he’s bending his joints. Which, if that’s the case, is not an inverted W.

It’s hard to say from this picture though.

by OremLK on Feb 7, 2010 1:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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