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The Astros head to Kissimmee, A Challenge from Kansas City, Jason Castro's value and the Youngsters can walk

It's been a long time in coming. Too long, I'd say, but "Truck Day" came and went for the Astros yesterday. Not exactly the most exciting day of the baseball season but it's a benchmark if nothing else. Baseball news is baseball news, and after a long off season filled with pessimistic projections, hyperbolic analysis, and everything in between, it's an invigorating feeling to know that the popping of mitts and the cracking of bats is not too far into the future. 

Here's a pretty funny article from the Kansas City Royals blog, Royals Review. One of their writers asked the straightforward question: Which team will be better in 2010, the Astros or the Royals. I think this goes back to my point that it can be hard to make the offseason interesting sometimes. The Astros aren't the most talented team in the majors...but it's the Royals we're talking about. I guess we're fair game, although the Royals have had one winning season in their past sixteen while the 'Stros have had five losing seasons total in that same period. Meh. Can't begrudge them all that much. Misery loves company, and it's doubtful those folks have had much to smile about over the past well...decade and a half.

I can think of one definite reason as to why they're confident that their club is better than ours: Scott Podsednik might be their center fielder. Yeah, this Scott Podsednik:

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That's not coming back, guys.

Pods is like David Eckstein...but with one fewer World Series ring.

With Jason Kendall at catcher, Yuniesky Betancourt manning short, and 'Stache Ankiel in centerfield, I can see why RoyalsFan is confident this season. Plus their ballpark is a beauty.

Project Prospect released their Top 50 prospects list last week with Jason Castro crouching in at #47. The scouting report is nothing new:

Already outstanding defensive C; simple LD swing doesn't generate much power

If you see the glass half full, Castro has displayed a strong tendency towards plate discipline in his minor league career, while simultaneously improving his K% as he's climbed the organizational ladder. While he will most likely never hit 20 home runs in a season, CHONE has him as a .313 OBP guy right now, before he's ever hit in the majors. Imagine a year from now, with a season's worth of AAA and Major League (most likely) at bats under his belt...

One forward thinking defensive measure says Castro could be one of the best defensive catchers in the majors when he is called up. I assume that the better baserunners in the big leagues will offer Jason a bigger challenge than what he's seen in the minors. Hopefully, he adapts well. Heading into the future, defense will be the least of my concerns with Jason Castro.

The glass half empty has it that Castro doesn't have the sort of bat that will truly separate him from the pack. Before his 2009 breakout campaign, even a batting title didn't earn Joe Mauer as much fanfare as he received last season when he started to smack home runs at a greater clip. This is the skill that can turn a good player into something special, and it appears unlikely that Jason Castro will become such a player. After a terrible 2007 draft, the popular refrain is that the Astros wanted a sure thing in 2008 and Castro offered just the sort of low risk proposition that the organization wanted. On one hand, you can't blame the Astros for thinking this way. On the other....we all pretty much do.

In the end, Castro will become the team's first First Round selection since Chris Burke to play a game for the Astros. As Burke never exactly panned out (besides that one tiny postseason HR), Castro will in all likelihood become the first first-rounder since Lance Berkman to become a starter as a position player in the majors. Let that sink in for a second. Stings in all sorts of ways. No wonder why the Royals are taking shots at us. Even I'm getting a little down in the dumps writing this, and I'm supposed to be the overly optimistic one around here!

Optimism...optimism...where can I find some of that? Even something that may never make a bit of difference for the Astros in the long run, but for now looks pretty good...

A-ha! This will do. No link to the exact info, but sign up SABR's Emerald Guide to Baseball 2010, and a free PDF with more stats than you can imagine will be yours forever and ever. Therein is the optimism that I've been grasping for. Like most treasures, I had to dig deep to find it, but there it is waaay down in the Rookie League, in our Greenville affiliate. In the Appalachian League, four of the top six players in total walks were Astros property: Jonathan Meyer (36), Miguel Arrendell (35), Jio Mier (30) and Aaron Bray (28). So there ya go. Let's end on a positive note.

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Royals' fans are pretty generous, throwing around 100 loss projections...

for the Astros. The Astros have never had a 100 loss season in the team’s history. The Royals have had four 100 loss seasons in the last eight years.

by clack on Feb 13, 2010 7:27 AM CST reply actions  

There are some pretty confident fans over there

I had seen that article, but I didn’t want to mention it and seem like a rabble-rouser. There isn’t an article, but some ’Rats fans are sounding the same.

by ol Pete on Feb 13, 2010 7:42 AM CST up reply actions  

I thought about popping in to crush their hopes and dreams with a cold dash of reality, but I don’t have the heart.

by OremLK on Feb 13, 2010 7:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, you guys get to play them. We get to play Rangers, Angels, Ms and Twins. Me no likey. Is there a system with interleague? I know the regional opponent thing has blown lately. I sure am glad the Twins are bloating their payroll to never before heights.

by ol Pete on Feb 13, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

My favorite response was the first one

 
" I’d love to see a best of 25 game series between the Stros and Royals "

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Feb 13, 2010 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

best of 25

play the games at a neutral site in Arkadelphia

baseball war

by Will McDonald on Feb 13, 2010 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

That would be glorious

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by Stephen Higdon on Feb 13, 2010 12:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Regarding Jason Castro...

I’ve heard other scouts and prospect writers say that they’re puzzled that his swing didn’t generate more power in 2009. And others who think he’ll have more as he develops. This is from memory, so no links, sorry, but it’s possible he could be more than just an OBP guy.

But even if something like .275/.350/.375 is all we can hope for from him in his prime years, that’s better performance than the team has had from the catcher position in quite some time.

I’m still hoping Towles can eventually come close to his minor league performance with the big club, too. A platoon of the two seems like the ideal solution to me.

by OremLK on Feb 13, 2010 8:04 AM CST reply actions  

It's sorta funny

how the percentages of the poll have gotten closer and closer to 50/50. When I set this article to post yesterday evening, it was 62/37, now it’s 56/43….how it only adds up to 99% I do not know

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by Evan Hochschild on Feb 13, 2010 10:58 AM CST reply actions  

don't get me wrong

most of us at Royals Review think the Royals will be horrible

apparently many people also think the same of Houston

by Will McDonald on Feb 13, 2010 12:53 PM CST reply actions  

eh, no sweat

Sometimes Astros fans (namely: me) have trouble reconciling we’re not on top of the heap anymore

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by Evan Hochschild on Feb 13, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

CHONE projected standings

make it more interesting… they aren’t he last word, since we’re talking about which team is better, which is different than “who will finish with the better record.” I mean, we’d have to take into account which league is better and stuff (ahem).

Anyway, it’s just one take, but according to the Rally’s ‘optimistic projection’, the KC is projected for 73 wins, and Houston for 72.

According the ‘depth chart method,’ Houston will win 73, and KC will win 76.

Usual caveats apply, the it’s not an unreasonable proposition. Of course, there is usually a greater-than-projected spread, because of injuries, random variation from true talent, etc. And, of course, some teams “sell” during the season and get worse… of course, both the Astros and Royals are run by people too stupid to know they should be sellers…

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 13, 2010 2:17 PM CST reply actions  

i gotta ask

you’re a royals fan, i’m guessing. and judging by royals review’s site visits, there are a good deal of royals fans online.

so i must ask- how do you stay a royals fan? i get loyalty to your city, or that you grew up with them, and you can’t leave them…and it’s not like the astros have been as successful as the yankees, but at least all of us can remember the post season, and hell- consistent winning.

what is it like to deal with losing records year after year? are you any less into the royals than you were when you were younger?

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by Evan Hochschild on Feb 13, 2010 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not a great person to ask about that stuff

as I’m not a typical Royals fan — meaning that I’m way more into baseball in general as an adult than I was as a kid, and didn’t grow up a big “baseball guy.” It’s incredibly frustrating, still, of course, and for me, personally, it’s frustrating because I don’t think the situation is “hopeless,” but the more time the team is run by morons, the less hope there is.

I should also say fans can be pretty irrational — some of these RR polls last year were pretty funny. I don’t know why people voted the way they did on this one, but for me, it wasn’t out of any animosity . Before CHONE/PECOTA come out with there projections, I did my own, and was shocked when 1) The Royals weren’t the worst team in baseball, and 2) the Astros were the worst (the bottom four are KC, Pit, TOR, HOU). Astros have some good playoff runs in the recent past to remember, and it’s pretty shocking to see how far they’ve fallen. But looking the Pythag from last season… things could get ugly. We’ll see, though. But really, the only assets the Astros have are Oswalt, Wandy, Berkman, and Pence. Carlos Lee is still an okay player, but his hitting doesn’t really make up for his defense, considering his contract, so they’re stuck.

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 13, 2010 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Michael Bourn isn’t an asset?

by seanbergmanrules on Feb 13, 2010 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Michael Bourn was a 4.2 WAR player last season, and I would regard him as a good player. CHONE’s projection for him is ridiculously low. One reason is that CHONE doesn’t do a good job with the defensive metrics. CHONE projects Bourn as a negative defensive player, which is crazy. Both UZR and Fielding Bible show him to be a strong positive defensive player. I think anyone who has seen him play any length of time would agree with that. (Bourn made more Out of Zone plays then anybody in the majors last year.) The Astros have some good young players who are likely to be in the rotation (Norris and Paulino), and I would regard them as good assets. Carlos Lee is productive, but overpaid. I think CHONE overstates how bad he is defensively. He ranges around -4.2 to -5.4 on UZR during his Astros’ tenure, which isn’t good, but is better than the CHONE -8 projection. I’m not sure how CHONE projected his defense, but unless a adjustment is made for the Crawford Box wall, the Astros’ LFer will have a defensive rating worse than it should be.

by clack on Feb 13, 2010 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah

sorry, forgot Bourn on my list of assets, which was off the top of my head. My “power rankigns” like Bourn, so that was part fo the projection.

I didn’t use TZ for my defensive ratings, I used UZR.

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 13, 2010 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

What about Paulino and Norris, too?

They’ve been pegged for great gains in strikeout rates, have outstanding SIERA numbers, better xFIP, etc. So that’s a reasonable assumption for an upgrade in terms of RA, right? Sure, the offense will degrade, but I’m not convinced it’s going to bottom out. Either way, I don’t think it’s a dire as CHONE has it—at all. CHONE had the Astros as the worst team in baseball last year, another caveat to throw in, too.

Pythag numbers from last year have a run differential powered by Mike Hampton and Russ Ortiz combining for an absurd amount of innings (Brian Moehler, too). I get that the Astros weren’t a good team last year, but there’s a number of bright spots/room for improvement in 2010. 75-76 wins seems like a pretty reasonable assumption/safe bet. Given that, it’s a coin flip decision between taking the Royals and the Astros from what you’ve described. I’d still take Astros, just because they play in the NL.

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by Stephen Higdon on Feb 13, 2010 7:27 PM CST up reply actions  

sure, I'm just throwing it out there

both terrible teams — if we’re talking about “who is better,” I’d go with the Royals, maybe, by a hair (again, that surprised me), but I can see the Astros MAYBE having a better record because of the NL… the Cubs looks surprisingly decent despite Jim Hendry’s usual idiocy, so the “top half” of the NL Central (SLN, CHN, MIL) could make things rough for the Astros.

I have to say, this is a surprisingly rational discussion…. if this were between Royals and [team name redacted to protect myself], it would be really ugly

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 13, 2010 10:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd like to think we're capable of some enlightened discussion

There’s not a lot to get excited about when arguing over whether your team, or another team is going to be the worst team in MLB, possible. And, TCB prizes itself on trying to base arguments in some kind of objective manner and your a sabermagician so there’s not a lot of room for emotions and irrationality.

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A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.

by Stephen Higdon on Feb 13, 2010 10:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Reds have a lot of nice players

Depending on how their young players step up, playing them isn’t exactly a gimme. I think the idea that the NL Central is weak is an assumption that may not be true.

by ol Pete on Feb 14, 2010 8:10 AM CST up reply actions  

true enough

The Mets and Nationals aren’t exactly monsters of the East

And, like the ROyals, Houston doesn’t get to play themselves

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 14, 2010 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

irrational fans

No shortage of those in any fanbase. Sadly, many seem to go on to host sports talk radio.

by ol Pete on Feb 13, 2010 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for the link!

I just wanted to drop by and thank Crawfishboxes for all the links it has thrown our way over the last 6+ months…very much appreciated. This is a great community!

I’ll be heading to Astros minor league camp this time next month! And I’ll be Tweeting all about what I see, publishing video and scouting.

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by Adam Foster on Feb 13, 2010 7:28 PM CST reply actions  

Keep us updated

Some of us still don’t tweet

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Feb 14, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Royals vs. Astros

I thought it was no contest, Astros over Royals, but maybe I read too much Joe Posnanski and not enough Astro bashing articles.

by timmy_ on Feb 16, 2010 10:53 AM CST reply actions  

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