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Astros going forward….a look into the possible future

I believe the Astros need to answer a lot of questions for their future. We hear a lot about pitching but whether you believe it or not there are 8 other positions on the field. The Astros need to get serious in their draft about power this year. They also need to identify who is a contender and who is a pretender for the future of this franchise. Here are a few questions I think need to be answered.

1)     How much more does Roy have in the tank? Is there a rotation in the making? Is Wandy legit; or did he pitch for a contract? Can Bud Norris move into the #2 role; could he be an ace? Most of these questions will be answered in 2010. Now for the future. Is Seaton, Lyles, Bazardo, etc. going to ready to step in and contribute to a quality starting rotation? The time to find this out may come as early July or August of this year. If the Astros are out of the race by the All Star break it’s time for some OJT for the kiddos. To leave these guys in the minors with the Astros out of it would be counterproductive in my opinion. You have to see how they react under fire in meaningful (semi-meaningful) games at the ML level.

2)     Where do the Astros get their power from when Lee and Berkman are gone? Where will the power numbers for this team come from? As we sit today the Astros are experiencing a power outage. That is not to say a player could not be drafted in 2010 and 2011 that could come up with good power but I think we are going to have to wait to develop a heavy home run hitting/RBI producing player. As the team sits today; Berkman, Lee and Feliz are your most likely candidates to produce significant power numbers. Hunter Pence has some power but is more of a doubles guy in the mold of Biggio. The future power that is in the organization now is in the hands of (age-level-position) Gaston (23-A-LF), Pellegrini (25-A-1B), DeLome (24-AA-LF), Clemens (23-A-C) and Locke (26-AA-OF). Do you notice the "advanced" age of these players? This is a symptom of an organization with a bad minor league system and the overall poor health of the franchise. Obviously you don’t have to have a bunch of guys banging the ball off the wall all day but a few in the lineup help. Around the horn today; Manzella looks like the only guy who we will have as an everyday player come 2012 and forward. If he can give the Astros .250 with what is expected from his glove he’ll be fine, the rest of the infield……Ed Wade has some serious work to do. The Astros would be wise to start asking about Jorge Cantu’ from the Florida Marlins or possibly Billy Butler before they become a Yankee or Red Sox in free agency. If he’s willing to try to make the change to 1B, Brian Bogusevic could be an option. So far Brian has done whatever the organization has asked him to do and last year as an outfielder he hit the most HR’s of his short career (15).

3)     What do the Astros do if Castro is closer to a Towles than the impact catcher that they think he could be?  In football; you drop back 14 yards and punt. In baseball you move on to the next guy. Who’s the next guy? The next guy could be Koby Clemens…but I doubt it. I believe the Astros will turn their attention to Maxwell Sapp (A-Lex). He’s only 21 right now and may become the Astros "next guy" if Castro can’t get past Towles and Quintero.

4)     If you go off current numbers; what does the Astros 2013 opening day lineup look like? Is there really hope without grabbing a top free agent? I’ll answer the last first. No. The Astros are not in good enough shape right now to believe that they could field a championship team by 2012. It wouldn’t take much but I believe they will (once Lee is off the books) need to go get a big banger to settle into the middle of this line up. If no move is made; this is how I see it in 2013:

1)     Michael Bourn – CF

2)     Chris Johnson – 3B

3)     Jonathon Gaston – LF

4)     Hunter Pence – RF

5)     Brian Pellegrini – 1B

6)     Jason Castro – C

7)     Tommy Manzella – SS

8)     Edwin Maysonet – 2B

                Pitching rotation:

1)     Bud Norris

2)     Wandy Rodriguez

3)     Jordan Lyles

4)     Ross Seaton

5)     Yorman Bazardo

The future for the Astros isn’t bleak. With solid drafts and a few free agent pickups here and there they could be back among the contenders in a couple of years if not sooner. This is not time to panic; it’s fun (yes a bit frustrating also) to watch these kids develop. But let’s not forget about 1991; the early years of Biggio, Bagwell, Schilling, Caminiti, Finley and Gonzalez when we had these good young players coming up and traded them off before they reached their potential. Remember in 1971 (for the older fans) when the Astros helped create the "Big Red Machine" for Cincinnati by sending them Cesar Geronimo and Joe Morgan.  Let’s not let that happen again.  

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I agree, with another solid draft (like the last 2), the farm will be healthy again. Luckily, in the short term, Houston has few pending free agents and nobody appears to be about to fall off of a cliff production-wise. The only free agents we’re losing are Moehler (5th starter), Feliz (3B), and Matsui (2B).

1.) I think Norris tops out as a #3. If you keep the current guys (O, Wandy) through their contracts, you have time to develop an ace or 2. Guys currently in the system who have that high of a ceiling: Lyles, Seaton, Bushue, Dydalewicz, and Keuchel. There are also a lot of guys who have middle-back rotation ceiings: Trinidad, Wright, Bazardo, Perez, Chacin, Arguello, Abad, Cespedes, Duncan, Greenwalt, Hicks. That said, I think high-ceiling starting pitching (think high schoolers) should and will be a priority in this draft.
2.) Pretty much agree with your assessment, although I’d say look out for J.D. Martinez. Gaston, DeLome, Clemens, and Pelligrini are all guys we will learn a LOT about this year.
3.) If Towles and Castro both fail to pan out, Houston will have to look to free agency, future drafts, or trades to fill their everyday catching job. None of the other guys in the systems appear to have the talent.
4.)Here’s my 2013 roster:

Lineup:
CF Bourn
2B Mier
RF Pence
LF Lee (signs 2 yr extension)
1B Clemens (assuming Berkman retires after 2011)
3B Johnson
C Castro
2B Manzella
OF Bogusevic
UT Maysonet
C Towles
IF Sutil
OF Locke

Pitching:
Lyles
Bushue
Norris
Keuchel
Abad
Wright
Urckfitz
Sampson
Gervacio
Fulchino
Nevarez
Lo

by Snake Diggity on Feb 12, 2010 3:40 PM CST reply actions  

edit: Replace Nevarez with Alberto Arias. Also, my roster assumes everyone except Lee leaves as soon as they are eligible for Free Agency, meaning Lindstrom, Lyon, Quintero, Keppinger, Myers, and Wandy all would be gone by 2013, and O, Blum, Byrdak, Michaels, and Berkman would be retired.

by Snake Diggity on Feb 12, 2010 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Why are you counting Paulino out? He has legitimate top of the rotation potential…and he is a lot closer to achieving that potential tnan any of the other young pitchers.

I wouldn’t pick Sapp as the Astros’ future catcher at this point. He had a terrifying near-death experience with meningitis which caused him to lose memory, and it will be a credit to him if he can resume his minor league career. Here is a quote from Bennett last month on some current obstacles faced by Sapp:

“He’s lost probably 40 pounds,” Bennett said, estimating Sapp is down to about 195 pounds. “He’s still on medication, he’s still getting his memory back. There’s a lot of things that he has to relearn; a lot of baseball stuff that he has to relearn. Things are starting to come back to him, but it’s going to take some time.”

Lyles, Seaton, and Dydaliwicz are too young for a major league call up this year. I would hate to see it happen because it would be taking too big a risk with their future.

I agree that we will learn a lot about some of the Astros’ minor leaguers who had great seasons last year, such as Clemens and Gaston.

by clack on Feb 12, 2010 5:34 PM CST reply actions  

Paulino

To be honest I believe Paulino has a million dollar arm and a ten cent head. “Stuff-wise” he’s probably the Astros best young pitcher….but he doens’t possess (right now) the mental toughness to get through a game. I would love to see Paulino come out and be strong and blow everyone away. That would mean for this season we would have:

- Oswalt with a deep desire to have a bounch back year.
- Wandy wanting to prove that last year was no fluke.
- Paulino wanting to prove he is a MLB starter
- Norris wanting to prove he is the best pitching prospect for the future.
- Meyers wanting to prove he is the guy early in his career who was the opening day starter for a WS contender.

This adds up to a very nice pitching staff right now.

by AstrosBill on Feb 16, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

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