Cecil Cooper out as Astros' manager: Did he get a raw deal?
The fallout from the firing of Cecil Cooper is beginning, and JJO has taken to defend Coop for the most part. Opening his article on the firing, Ortiz lets everyone knows where he stands right off the bat:
Cecil Cooper was fired Monday as Astros manager, falling victim to an underachieving, injury-plagued team with a bloated payroll and one of the worst starting rotations in baseball.
Eh. I don't even know if this team underachieved. A team that has one of the worst starting rotations in baseball will find it difficult to compete, especially in light of the lack of depth from the major league level on down. Sure, they were injury plagued and the payroll is bloated, but Coop is not without blame in this mess. Surely he isn't the biggest reason for the Astros' disastrous 2009 season, but he did little to work with what positives this club did have going for it.
Some good news exists on the potential manager front, as Ortiz lays out possible replacements for the manager's role held in the interim by Dave Clark:
Clark, former Phillies, White Sox, Blue Jays and Angels manager Jim Fregosi, former Nationals manager Manny Acta and former Diamondbacks interim manager Al Pedrique, who was promoted to be Clark’s third-base coach from field coordinator, are some potential candidates to replace Cooper. Brad Ausmus, who is currently playing for the Dodgers, Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio, are former Astros who could be candidates if the Astros go for box-office appeal.
To, Ortiz' point about mismanagement and a bloated payroll, Drayton McLane doesn't seem to understand why his team failed so miserably in 2009:
If you'll look, this is the most expensive baseball team the Houston Astros have ever had," McLane said. "It's a huge investment we've had here. It's over $100 million. And we invested it in players that we thought could be championship players.
Currently constructed, there are few Astros that could reasonably be thought of as heavy contributors on a championship level team. Surely Lance Berkman, Wandy Rodriguez, Jose Valverde, Roy Oswalt (when healthy) and Michael Bourn are excellent at their craft and have performed well within their roles. Carlos Lee's contract has eaten up much of the payroll flexibility the Astros might otherwise have.
Speaking of Carlos, he made a pretty on point statement concerning this team. It would have sounded even better if it wasn't so damn ironic:
I’ll tell you, you just got to have a good balance and a competitive team, left fielder Carlos Lee said. If you see the team across the hall right here, the St. Louis Cardinals, they find a way to do it. They’re not a big-market team. They don’t spend that much money. I guess just find a way to do it. That’s what we got to do, just find a way to do it.
Apparently, Carlos is either unaware of his own mammoth contract, or is willing to overlook his contribution to the Astros' top heavy payroll structure.
To sum, Cecil Cooper got fired not because he's the worst MLB manager ever, or because he led a team with high expectations to a 70-80 record. No, he got fired because his veteran team lost confidence in him early on in his tenure, his tactical decisions concerning things like bullpen usage, walking/not walking batters (think Nick Johnson to get to the much less fierce-some Hanley Ramirez), the utilization of the hit and run and stolen base as well as his total lack of communication skills all laid a little bit of dirt on his managerial grave.
More than anything, it was the lack of communication between manager and team that concerned me the most. As a general rule, most managers cannot consistently help their teams win games. Over the course of many seasons, the best managers are those that only cost their team a few wins per season, rather than a handful. Nobody expected a man with no major league managerial experience to take this team to the top.
I'll concede the fact that Coop was put in an extremely unenviable situation, one where it would have taken a ton of moxy, a great deal of luck and a supremely good media presence to wiggle his way out of an escape smelling like roses. Cecil Cooper may be a good man, an honest man, and a baseball man through and through, but there are qualities that professional coaches need to embody in 2009 in order to be successful, and he just doesn't have them (or at least never exhibited them).
Watching his post game press conferences, you almost got the impression that Cecil didn't enjoy his job. He wore the criticisms, the losses, the long nights like a all too heavy Snuggie. Sure, it must have been comforting to some extent to know that he had risen to the highest on field job in the majors, but at the same time, the whole experience seemed to much for him. Where some would have taken that warmth and security and used it to benefit himself and his club, Cooper went the other way. He seemed abrasive at times, and overly affected by criticism at other instances. From pinning misunderstandings on players (think Roy Oswalt) to mishandling pitchers in touchy situations- both injury related (Oswalt again) and role related (just about every pitcher I can think of, especially Felipe Paulino and Russ Ortiz). His owner was misguided in thinking that his $107 million team could compete, and he was equally misguided in thinking that Cecil Cooper could act as the captain to the championship vessel.
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Yes, he got a raw deal in terms of the team he was given to manage
But he still did an awful job of managing it. Even if he had done a good job managing, we wouldn’t have been a postseason contender this month… but we might have at least been at .500.
It’s ironic that Ortiz would be playing the “raw deal” song for Cooper now. Ortiz is the guy who wrote so many breathless “the clubhouse is toxic” columns. Zachary Levine has a very rational column on what he saw as the main problem with Cooper, namely playing each game today as if it’s the only game of the season. Levine points to the pitcher merry go round against the Brewers on Sunday as an illustration that Cooper continued to make the same mistake, even in a blow out loss of a meaningless game.
In my view, Cooper’s No. 1 failing was the inability to handle pitchers, including the “miscommunications” about injuries which became so numerous that it was more than a misunderstanding. The second failing was his poor leadership in the clubhouse. All of the other stuff, like bad in-game strategy or batting order issues, is a relatively minor issue.
One event—the way Cooper handled the lineup card mistake—showed me why Cooper lacked the respect of his players. Coop never owned up to his mistake. He hid in the dugout when Bourn was on the verge of being thrown out because the young player was confused about what happened. Geoff Blum had to go onto the field to explain it to Bourn. Where was Cooper? And then after the game, Coop blamed his mistake on the bench coach.
by clack on Sep 22, 2009 8:58 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Ortiz is taking advice from Justice… Hence why Levine is the only writer I read from the Houston Chronicle.
by Timothy De Block on Sep 23, 2009 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions
really?
I think the main point here is that this season wasn’t all Coop’s fault, but he certainly didn’t do much to make it any better. It never felt like we had good leadership. The NL Central was relatively terrible this year creating an opportunity that a decent, motivated team could seize. It was frustrating that the Astros couldn’t.
I’m glad he’s gone because I think we need a fresh approach, especially if management is at all serious about planning to rebuild.
I’m fascinated by the idea of bringing Ausmus in to manage. Something like Justice’s column back in April:
Maybe Drayton would listen to you guys. You certainly bring more credibility to those jobs than anyone the Astros have had since Phil Garner and Gerry Hunsicker.
And of course Drayton has plenty of validation available:
“There’s no question he can be a manager,” Joe Torre said. “He’s a smart cookie, everybody knows that, and he has an engaging personality.”
But, I just want to call out one part of your post here:
He wore the criticisms, the losses, the long nights like a all too heavy Snuggie.
Really, a Snuggie? This Snuggie?
It helps if the hitter thinks you're a little crazy. - Nolan
i felt it necessary to work a snuggie reference into at least one of my posts
by Evan Hochschild on Sep 22, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The snuggie/WTF blanket
Will go down in history as the most underrated and trivialized inventions of all time.
In all seriousness, though, Coop didn’t get a raw deal. Yes, he was dealt a terrible hand, but he did jack to make the most of it. Whether it was his asinine managerial tactics, his complete inability to handle the pressures and responsibilities of the job, or his incredibly damning miscommunication with pitchers regarding their health and status he did not merit holding his job.
This team needed someone to maximize every ounce of talent and production to capitalize on the NL Central this year after the Cubs injuries dealt everyone a free chance—not handicap it.
Hopefully Ed and Drayton will seek such qualities as intelligence, savvy, and composure for the next manager; instead of just prizing veteraniness in their candidate.
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A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by Stephen Higdon on Sep 22, 2009 10:34 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It's possible to misplay a mediocre hand...
and that’s just what Coop did.
When we criticize Carlos Lee for various things, we don’t say “but you can’t really blame him, our starting rotation was so bad!” Same thing should go for the manager. If I were being just results oriented here, then I wouldn’t be pulling for Manny Acta.
A good manager helps to maximize the team’s record over the course of the season. I just don’t think Coop had much sense of the long term. Sure, anyone was going to have at least some trouble managing the bullpen with such a weak starting rotation, but a good manager wouldn’t have run the bullpen into the ground. And it’s not like his in-game decisions were great either.
by BTastros on Sep 22, 2009 7:21 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
the roster is very similar to last year that should have made the playoffs. yeah we don’t have wiggy out there at 3rd nor ausmus at catcher. Wiggy was a significant loss, ausmus not really cause he was replaced by pudge. But, we had a huge leap into greatness from bourn. While their contributions at the plate are in different ways, i’d take bourn in the line up over wiggy. we also had more contribution from blum this year than last. The rotation and bullpen are different. But i like this years bullpen a little bit more. The rotation really isn’t much worse than last years. Yes we played out of ourselves some last year, But the talent level isn’t much different. Plus we had break outs from bourn and wandy all season. So i don’t really see why we shouldn’t have been equally successful this year as last year especially with how the cubs played this year. It has to be a lot on Coop. The way he lost the clubhouse created the distraction that ruined the season. The big difference between last year and this year is the contributions from Roy and Lance. Neither had a good year. I think a lot of it has to do with Lance pouring all he had into keeping this team together. He started off great, then the team started showing signs of problems and he went into the slump. He is the team leader, he knows it, and he knows its his responsibility to keep some sort of order in the clubhouse. With the team meetings hes called, that was obviously on his mind and suredly effected his play. New manager that makes the team happy and keeps the club together, i think you’ll see a better berkman, better team as a whole that produces a few more wins, roy becomes happy and performs as well.
Very good analysis - Thanks
I do think you underestimate Brad Ausmus – not in batting , but in handling pitchers. More specifically, Ausmus would conduct pre-game meetings with pitchers to analyze the opposing batters. My understading is these were invaluable. Also his reputaition as a game caller is excellent. I often wondered if Ausmus’ routine would have saved many a poor first inning; or helped a reliever or new pitcher.
Ausmus new team doing well on the moujnd I understand. I wonder how much he contruiburted to their success (even when he does not play).
That aside, Subber10 makes some excellent observations not mentioned enough .
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Sep 23, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions

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