Armchair General Management: The 2010 Astros Roster
So here we are, in mid-September, an inch away from elimination and now in fourth place in the division. Hindsight is 20/20, and this post is not about pointing fingers. But the fact remains that the Astros could win every remaining game and still finish the season as a mediocrity, many games back even from the wild card, let alone the division title. So now it's time to look forward to next year. Changes clearly need to be made, to the roster and to the management; this article is about the former. This is my first FanPost here; I hope you like it.
The Houston Astros are rumored to have $90 million to work with next season, give or take. This is a substantial drop even from this year. It's not a bad payroll, qualifying the Astros as a mid-market team, but past management decisions have taken their toll, and a troubling $50 million or so of that is tied up in a few core players whose performance this year has not matched their price. So unless Drayton McLane suddenly decides in the offseason that his first priority is winning, we are effectively a small market team that must pinch pennies to have any hope of success.
The problem? Our farm sucks. This means that several key roster spots must be filled with marginal-to-decent prospects who have as much chance of burning out and turning into AAA lifers as they do of succeeding at the big league level.
Otherwise, we are going to have to shop for bargains and take some risks on the free agent market. No top free agents; no John Lackey or Chone Figgins. We will have to look for a couple of guys who are not in as high of demand, and fill our other positions with unseasoned rookies.
So without further ado, here is my suggested 2010 Houston Astros roster.
Position Players
2. Catcher. Top Pick: Jason Castro. Backups: Chris Coste, J.R. Towles. Ideally, this position will be filled by the Astros' 2009 top prospect, Castro. This does, however, depend on his performance in spring training. Chris Coste batted .263 last year with the Phillies; although he is already fairly old, he may bounce back from this year to some extent, and he seems like a good clubhouse presence. If Castro must go to AAA, Coste should be our primary catcher, with J.R. Towles serving as his backup. Humberto Quintero should be traded to somebody in need of a big league-ready backup catcher, ideally for a class A infield prospect (or two) with some upside--obviously not anywhere near a top prospect, but a player who might develop.
3. First Base: Top Pick: Lance Berkman. Backup: Jeff Keppinger. The Big Puma isn't going anywhere. Hopefully he will bounce back and simultaneously avoid trips to the DL in 2010.
4. Second Base: Two-Way Tie: Kazuo Matsui and Edwin Maysonet. The contrast between Maysonet's big league and minor league numbers is so stark as to make me doubt that he can come anywhere close to sustaining this year's performance. Nonetheless, he has earned himself a chance to compete for the job. Matsui's contract continues through 2010, and we are unlikely to find any takers for him on the trade market, so we're stuck with him. His defense has been competent and he has shown late signs of improving at the plate; allow him and Maysonet to compete for the job, with the loser backing up the starts of whoever performs better.
5. Third Base: Top Pick: Adam Kennedy. Backup/Platoon mate: Jeff Keppinger. Adam Kennedy has had a good year both offensively and defensively with the Athletics; he would be a significant upgrade over Geoff Blum, and I would argue that he would even be better than Miguel Tejada. He batted .285 with a .347 on-base percentage this year. At the age of 33, he is younger than Tejada, and his performance is not likely to significantly decline. He doesn't offer the slugging that a third baseman should provide, but then, neither do any of our other options. He hits much better against righties than lefties, making him the ideal platoon mate for Keppinger. Why not Chris Johnson, you ask? It's not that I want to rule him out for the future, it's just that his AAA numbers were not good enough for third base even if he matched them at the big league level. He needs more development time on the farm, not a year of failure on the Astros roster.
6. Shortstop: Top Pick: Tommy Manzella. Backup: Wladimir Sutil (40-man roster only). Manzella deserves a shot at the big leagues. A full year, and even if he fails, spring training of the next. Look what happened with Michael Bourn. His defense would be a subtle but worthwhile upgrade to the performance of our pitching staff, and his .289 batting average this season at AAA suggests that he might be able to hold his own at the plate as well. As long as he cracks the Mendoza Line, let him play (and even if he doesn't crack it at first; everyone slumps sometimes).
7. Left Fielder: Top Pick: Carlos Lee. Backup: Reggie Abercrombie. We're stuck with El Caballo, and barring a trip to the DL, he will play for us every game in LF. Abercrombie should join the Astros on the bench as a pinch hitter and backup outfielder. He will be 28 years old and is not a starting prospect of any kind going forward, which is an intentional choice on my part. We don't want to damage the development of somebody like Brian Bogusevic or Drew Locke by sitting them on the bench all year. Perhaps Abercrombie will bat .200 or so as a third or fourth pinch hitter--regardless, he is the kind of low-cost option we will need to settle for next season, while letting go of more expensive veterans like Darin Erstad and Jason Michaels. Unless Drayton opens up the payroll a little more to allow the purchase of a better backup, that's the situation as it stands.
8. Center Fielder: Top Pick: Michael Bourn. Backup: Reggie Abercrombie. Bourn is, again, a given. I again have little confidence in Abercrombie, but hopefully we won't have to see him as more than the occasional pinch hitter.
9. Right Fielder: Top Pick: Hunter Pence. Backup: Reggie Abercrombie. Let's all cross our fingers and hope this is Hunter's big year. He's due for breakout year sometime soon, the way things usually pan out for young players.
Total Estimated Cost: $55.5 million
Pitching
#1. Wandy Rodriguez. Wandy's breakout year qualifies him for opening day in 2010. Unfortunately, it also qualifies him for a lot more money in arbitration, but you can't get performance without paying for it.
#2. Roy Oswalt. Roy's back condition is troublesome, and his resulting numbers this season were worse than any previous year. But we're stuck with him and his high-priced contract through next season, and we're going to have to hope he can pull it together and give us legitimate #2 performance.
#3. Choose one: Ben Sheets, Justin Duchscherer, Rich Harden, Joel Pineiro, etc. The decision for a #3 free agent starter is probably the most complex and risky of any of these choices. I won't weigh in specifically--this is something that Ed Wade's scouts and penny-pinchers are going to have to figure out--but I will say this: Get somebody relatively young who might still have a career year left in him--early thirties at the oldest. And take a risk, because that's the only way we're going to afford somebody who is capable of putting up ace numbers. Don't settle for a Doug Davis or a Jon Garland type; if we wanted reliable mediocrity, we could exercise Brian Moehler's option and get a better value. Bet big and roll the dice, but only for one year--it's going to take a lot of luck to compete in 2010 regardless, so you might as well play it for all it's worth.
#4. Bud Norris. He has the stuff. He has the composure. If he can find the refinement and consistency, he could be a very important part of our rotation, and exceed the expectations of his #4 slot. Or, being a rookie, he could bomb as often as he succeeds. Even if that happens, he's demonstrated that he's ready for the big leagues, and this is the only place he's going to be able to grow. Give him the full season as a starting pitcher.
#5. Felipe Paulino. He has the stuff, perhaps even moreso than Bud Norris, but he doesn't necessarily have the composure, and he sure as heck doesn't have the refinement or consistency. Still, his stuff is lightning, and the other things just might come with experience. Don't leave him in doubt, like this year: Give him, too, one more chance--a real one, an entire season, and let him grow.
Backup starters: Wesley Wright, Polin Trinidad, Yorman Bazardo. There's been a lot of talk that Wesley Wright will be groomed for a starting job in winter ball and spring training; that should be enough to back up the rotation. In the event that disaster strikes, Bazardo and Trinidad should also be available, at the least to be called up for a start or three.
Closer: Jeff Fulchino. He has excelled this year, with a hard fastball, a good slider, and a split finger pitch that has shown a lot of development. His stuff still can't match Jose Valverde's, but it--and his performance--should be enough to hold his own as a closer, blowing as few saves as he did innings this year. Sure, LaTroy Hawkins is also a viable option as closer, but why spend as much as he will demand when Fulchino is almost as good, while also being cheaper and younger?
Bullpen: Tim Byrdak, Chris Sampson, Alberto Arias, Sammy Gervacio, Wesley Wright, Yorman Bazardo, Wilton Lopez. Half of the bullpen should be strong next year, while the other half will be more of a question mark.
Total Estimated Cost: $35 million
Overall Estimated Cost: $90.5 million
Can the Houston Astros succeed next year with this kind of lineup? There are so many unknown variables. Does Roy Oswalt's back hold up? Does Wandy maintain this year's performance, or was it an aberration? Will the #3 starter we sign pitch well and stay off the disabled list? How about Bud Norris, Felipe Paulino, and the young, rookie-filled bullpen?
Will Lance Berkman and Kazuo Matsui bounce back from bad years? Will Jason Castro live up his billing as the Astros' top prospect, or will he need more time on the farm? Was Tommy Manzella's decent offensive season at AAA a fluke, or will he be another J.R. Towles at the big league level?
It would take an alignment of the stars for most or all of these questions to have good answers, answers that result in success for the 2010 team. But I know one thing: It would be a much younger, much more interesting team to watch.
How about you? What are your thoughts? What changes would you make to the lineup?
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DeRosa a viable 3B platoon option?
I know he’s going to have to go through surgery on his wrist at some point, but with his performance (or lack of) since going to St. Louis he might be attainable for a reasonable price and is versatile enough to backup in the outfield. Would probably need to be a one-year deal with several incentives to protect the club. Also, while not quantifiable, he’s always had a good rep as a clubhouse guy and with Miggie not in your 2010 roster — it might be another factor to consider.
Disclaimer: haven’t had a chance to look at his numbers against right-handers, so this may be a moot point from a platoon perspective. I just saw Abercrombie’s name as your primary OF backup and thought it would be nice to kick around a utility name that has proven ability in both IFand OF.
Nice post, really enjoyed it.
by dallastros_fan on Sep 17, 2009 8:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DeRosa would be better than a platoon player (at least on offense…someone else will have to comment on his defense). Even in his down year, he’s still putting up better numbers than Geoff Blum (at least in the slugging department). He’ll probably run between $5M and $8M per year, and you’ll probably have to sign him for multiple years (not that we couldn’t use him for more than just a year or two). Given that we wouldn’t sign Wiggy last year for that amount, I’d think the odds are fairly slim that we sign him this offseason.
by AstroAndy on Sep 17, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't trust a Fulchino as closer....
Inability to close out games will utterly destroy a team, and make them unwatchable. (That’s how I felt about the 2000 Astros after Wagner went down; after awhile I refused to watch the team, because the inability to hold leads made watching the team excruciating…I think that is how Nationals’ fans must have felt this year.) I think there are veteran relief pitchers available who have some experience closing games. Hawkins is a possibility, and I’ve mentioned Sherrill and Howry as examples. Young guys like Fulchino and Arias should get experience as set up pitchers this year before determining whether they could be a closer next year. If Valverde or Wagner would return at a discount, I would consider one of them.
by clack on Sep 17, 2009 8:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure, Fulchino is a riskier proposition
And if the Astros have a $95 million payroll instead of a $90 million one, I’m all for bringing back LaTroy or hiring some other dedicated closer. But in all likelihood, there won’t be that much money to spend.
So who do you cut in favor of a closer?
This is another situation where we’re simply going to have to gamble and hope it pays off. Every closer has to be converted sometime. It’s mostly a psychological jump—just as often as not, middle relievers deal with the heart of the order, while closers deal with the back end.
Jeff Fulchino has gotten a lot of work this year, including some as a setup guy and plenty of situations where he’s pitched the 9th inning without the lead. He’s done well under pressure. Could he fail? Absolutely. But I should remind you that even high-priced closers aren’t sure bets—look at Brad Lidge last year and compare it with this one. I think he could handle the job.
by OremLK on Sep 17, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you can get a B grade closer for $3 million. Both Sherrill and Howry are currently paid $2.5 million/year. However, I think Hawkins should be offered arbitration, in order to get the extra draft picks if he leaves. However, there is a risk that he will accept arbitration, in which case you might be forced to pay $4.5 million for a closer (Hawkins). But I think you have to take that risk in order to try and get the extra draft picks. I think I would come up with the $3 million by cutting costs at 3d base (I’m not sold on Adam Kennedy and I think I might search for a cheaper option) and replacing Byrdak with a cheaper LOOGY.
An additional complication is that the Astros may be forced to pick up Moehler’s option. He has some sort of innings based vesting for his option. I don’t know what it is, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he has vested.
by clack on Sep 17, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair points
The trouble with cutting offense that third base, though, is that we won’t have Miguel Tejada anymore, and we’d be lucky if Manzella even managed .700 OPS. The reason I suggest Kennedy is mostly because he has a strong tilt towards right-handed pitching, hitting over .300 against them. Between him and Keppinger I think we could count on .825-.850 OPS at third base.
by OremLK on Sep 17, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kennedy is not an illogical option...
but I just don’t trust his offensive stats this season. I may be reacting too much to the dislike that many Cards fans at vivaelbirdos.com have for Kennedy. I also find it odd that Kennedy is posting his highest OPS since 2004, after two straight sub-.700 OPS seasons with the Cardinals in 07 and 08. It makes me a bit skeptical. That’s why I think there may be cheaper options with a similar risk. But I don’t mean to sound too critical of your suggestion; it makes sense, and you obviously dug something up I didn’t know—that Kennedy has been getting 3d base experience with the A’s.
by clack on Sep 17, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True.
Remember though that he only got about 600 ABs between those two seasons, which may be part of the reason his performance suffered. Every season he’s gotten over 400 ABs he has done much better. I seem to remember reading he was dissatisfied with the Cardinals because they wouldn’t let him start regularly and that’s why he asked for a trade.
by OremLK on Sep 17, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Farm system
If the team were mine, I’d cut salaries to $80million and spend the other $10million to upgrade the farm system. Let’s hire the best management. Let’s double our scouting. Let’s upgrade our minor league facilities. Let’s hire the best pitching and hitting coaches. Let’s go find international prospects and run them through a baseball academy.
Do this and 3 years from now the Astros will be back on top. Keep on like we are now and we will do well to go .500.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
by Caradoc on Sep 17, 2009 10:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
#3
Those are definitely high risk, high reward choices. There is no way that Piniero gets a 1 year deal. I’d pass on Harden. He can be awesome or a notch below mediocre. I think this year was the first in quite a while that he didn’t have a significant injury. He seems like a guy who would be a good closer.
Last night on the Cubs/Brewers broadcast they actually mentioned Ben Sheets. I was taken aback. There was some sort of negativity in the parting between him and the team, I know not what. The analyst guy who is pretty well connected put the odds on him coming back at 50/50. That seems high.
by ol Pete on Sep 17, 2009 11:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wasn’t there an issue over whether the Brewers would pay for Sheets’ rehab or not? I recall that they said the issue would be decided by MLB, and I don’t know what the resolution was. But I could see that causing some frayed feelings with Sheets.
by clack on Sep 17, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harden is an intriguing player, but ultimately I don’t think his price will be appropriately discounted. If a team signs Harden, they have to commit themselves to arranging their rotation such that he gets 6 days rest. Some managers won’t want to do that out of stubbornness. (Cooper, I’m talking to you.) You may end up with only 20 starts on the season, but 90% of those starts may be very high quality starts. He also won’t last much beyond 6 innings, which also distracts from his value.
by clack on Sep 17, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever it was started well before that. That probably wouldn’t have helped.
by ol Pete on Sep 17, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I vote for us getting Justin Duchscherer if he is ready by next year.
by Astrosws20 on Sep 17, 2009 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I second this, we could get him pretty cheap too
by 04'-05'-glorydays on Sep 20, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...
Lets scratch the Kennedy option and start Johnson at 3b, and use that money on Lackey (use the kennedy moeny and wtvr money you would use on the other number 3’s…)
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Sep 17, 2009 7:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Offensive suicide
Offensively, we could get away with either Manzella or Johnson, but I don’t think we could make it with both. We’d have three .600-something OPS guys in the infield every day (Matsui/Maysonet, Johnson, Manzella).
Even this year we’ve been losing too many quality starts and winning too few slugfests. And that suggestion would be a major offensive downgrade.
by OremLK on Sep 17, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
defensive suicide this year
alot of the losing blowouts was we had a horrible defensive left field. I agree we cant have both johnson and manzella because offensive suicide. I think we need to rely on a rotation of oswalt/wandy/bud/moehler/paulino, spend the money on miggie for thirdwith manzella at SS. That defensive upgrade at both positions and that combined with hopefully development of bud and paulino who have both flashed briliance. Give valverde and hawkins arb. And pray they decline and get a cheap closer like the B grade ones mentioned earlier. Dont spend the money on starters and show some confidence in the few arms our system has produced this year. Thats where we can save the money. And groom fulchino or arias as the closer…or wright as a set up man or even a closer
by Subber10 on Sep 17, 2009 8:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
We need some experienced closer
whether that’s B grade or whatever. I think relying on fulchino in that spot would be absolute bullpen suicide. I would actually rather see Norris be thrown in as closer although I don’t think that’s smart either. we need a bat at SS or 3B and stick TM or CJ in at the other position. get some type of closer and then if we have money left over we try to get a starter. A thought is also to bring Moehler back at a discounted rate if you can get it because of his surgery. If you get a discount you could possibly stick him at #4 too. Who knows.
by Astrosws20 on Sep 17, 2009 9:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What's your reasoning?
As far as I’m concerned, closer is a third priority. Look at the Phillies’ woes closing games—now look at their record. The Reds have one of the best closers in the game, and look where they’re at.
The way I see it, the closer is the icing on the cake. A winning team will win a handful more games with an elite closer, but a team just trying to put itself together (that’s us) should focus on the rotation and the lineup.
by OremLK on Sep 17, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In some ways, I think it is more important for borderline to teams to have a competent closer. When a closer repeatedly fails, it is totally demoralizing to a team and has a holdover effect which can last beyond the game. A team like the Phillies can withstand that perhaps…even though it is questionable whether the Phillies can succeed in the playoffs if Lidge isn’t replaced. But I think a competent closer can make a mediocre team competitive and a terrible closer can send a mediocre team’s season into ashes. That, in fact, was the Padres’ theory which allowed them to compete and win NL West titles in the early/mid 2000’s. The Padres relied on a good bullpen and very good closer to accompany a remaining team which was mediocre.
by clack on Sep 17, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any middle relief arms in FA
who might be able to take a shot at closing? Decent closers are easy to acquire (see David Aardsma, who’s been brilliant for Seattle, Leo Nunez who’s been useful…remember Chad Qualls? Yeah, he’s been pretty good too), even if elite ones cost a lot. Right now, unless they put Hawkins there and pray he survives the whole season, if they really need a closer, go find a middle-reliever with enough stuff to do the job. Don’t spend mega-bucks getting Valverde again.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
by jonthefon on Sep 18, 2009 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with the importance of having a competent closer. Even Valverde, who has been very good for us, has given the fans a number of “heart-attack moments”. Regularly blowing saves puts a lot of pressure on the starting pitching staff and the offense to build a big cushion. That’s not good on a team that is already pressing.
That being said, on a cash-strapped team with a lot of holes to be filled, I’m not sure you’re going to get the best bang-for-the-buck by getting an elite closer rather than a good, but not elite closer.
by AstroAndy on Sep 18, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you think Fulchino would be a bad closer?
He has good stuff and good command of it. His stats as a middle reliever suggest that he would be decent as a closer; not as good as Valverde or (perhaps) even Hawkins, but as good as many “B grade” closers out there.
I still think ‘closer’ is a role of artificially inflated importance in modern baseball. Thirty years ago any manager in MLB would have looked at you like you were crazy if you asked them who their closer was. A “save” is a completely arbitrary statistic, and the pressure on a closer is mostly psychological, created by the importance that has been placed on the role.
And even if you buy into it—every closer has to become one at some point. We aren’t hesitant to try untested starting pitchers, so why not do the same with the closer?
by OremLK on Sep 19, 2009 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know that he would be a bad closer. I think there is a risk of it though.
By the way teams had the equivalent of closers 30 years ago (they used to be called “relief ace”), and they were used differently (sometimes working 2 or 3 innings to close out a game). Frequently a lefty and righty would share time (think of Lyle and Gossage for the Yankees or Sambito and Smith for the Astros). Closers won the Cy Young during that time period (Mike Marshall).
Back to Fulchino…I like him, and wouldn’t mind seeing him compete for the No. 5 starter slot. But he doesn’t have the kind of dominating stuff which is the normal closer profile (his K/9 is good, but not great). Fulchino is only a year off the minor league scrap heap; I don’t feel comfortable yet predicting how he would perform as closer. Closers frequently face the highest leveraged situations and should be your team’s best relief pitcher, and one of your team’s best 2 or 3 pitchers. Yes, there is psychological pressure on the closer, mostly because the weight on them is that the game is over if they fail. (Go back and read Sampson’s quote about realizing that closing out the 9th is “more difficult” after he earned a save in the 9th for the first time this year.)
The safest thing, in filling the closer slot, is to use someone who has had that experience before, and the next safest thing is to use someone who has experience as a set up man in the 8th, which is frequently high leverage too. The Padres’ Towers who puts together cheap bullpens with young/retread pitchers says one rule to follow is not to immediately place the pitchers into high leverage roles, but rather to give them progressively more experience in more difficult roles until they graduate to the highest leverage role. Otherwise, you risk shattering the confidence of the pitcher when they blow saves, get booed by the home crowd, and become the butt of sports talk radio attacks. If the Astros think that Fulchino is closer material, I would suggest using him as the 8th inning set up man next year to see how he fares, before considering him as closer. But it’s not clear to me that he is the best choice even for that role; Arias and Gervacio may be better relief pitchers, for instance. In terms of what I have seen, I would tend to pick Arias as the one with closer stuff. even though his overuse caused his K/9 rate tail off over the last month.
by clack on Sep 19, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see Arias get further experience in high-leverage situations.
Get Hawkins to close out games to start, have Arias and Fulchino work set-up situations, and if Hawkins does struggle, give one of the two a shot.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
by jonthefon on Sep 19, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably a good plan.
Fair points about the psychological pressure, clack. That’s the one thing that is actually different about being a closer, I suppose.
Let’s just hope Drayton at least offers a $95 million payroll.
by OremLK on Sep 20, 2009 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All these 2010 hypotheticals pretty much end up agreeing:
-let all the free agents walk
-sign a #3 starter
-patchwork at closer
-pray
I would much rather let Miggy go and have a closer by committee and get a 3rd ace than have another crummy rotation.
by Snake Diggity on Sep 18, 2009 10:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
but can you get a 3d “ace” for the money you save? You are suggesting either high risk guys who could be an ace, if healthy, like Sheets, or else decently mediocre veterans (Garland or Davis), who may not be that much better than our alternatives. There are risks going either direction on the starters….is the probability that Sheets will return to “ace” status next year higher or lower than the probability that Norris or Paulino has a breakthrough season? Heck, if I know.
by clack on Sep 18, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I guess let valverde walk? Not a bad idea, we would get a compensatory draft pick for him, I would think?
by 04'-05'-glorydays on Sep 18, 2009 11:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Alright, but....
I would make a few minor tweaks:
2cd base: trade kaz for a A ball player and pay 2 mil of the remaining 5 left on his deal; this saves 3 mil: New 2cd base, jeff kepinger and edwin maysonet
3rd base: JOE CREDE, he has nice pop and will only cost about 4.5 mil, also bring Geoff Blum back for the bench for about 1mil, he is versatile and really good off the pine
backup outfielder give andrew locke a chance, he is already 27 and he earned a shot in AA this year, the only reason he wasnt a september call up is because he broke his hand
Catcher: you will be able to get a guy like john buck for relatively cheap, him and coste would make a nice right and left handed platoon; let castro participate in spring training and start in triple a and play his way up from there
Strarting pitching: roy, wandy, Bud, Sheets, and the cheapest option between brett myers, daniel cabrera, justin duchscherer, and jose contreras
bullpen: arias, sampson, fulchino, gervacio, wesley wright, byrdak, best rule 5 pick available
Closer: Rafeal Betancourt, Octavio Dotel, or Fernando Rodney (cheapest option) start with one of them and make a change if need be during the season
by strosfan31 on Sep 18, 2009 11:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No possible way we can afford Crede, Sheets, another decent starter, another catcher and a set up man outside the program to use as closer.
Just dont have that much money. do u guys realize how much we’ll be giving pence and wandy?
by Astrosws20 on Sep 19, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they are both getting a huge pay increase. Catcher is pretty much settled, your gonna see a combination of towles, Q, or coste. Maybe another rule V guy might get thrown in there. But no money for a free agent. We’re stuck with matsui…just face it. But we’re gonna need his slightly above average defense at 2nd. I think at least one of our 4 and 5 outfielder will come out of the system though. I’d prefer both so we have a little more cash to spend else where. I wouldn’t mind seeing moehler, paulino, bazardo, and wright compete for the rotation to join with bud wandy and roy. use the money for the rotation in a B grade closer and keeping miggy for 3rd.
by Subber10 on Sep 19, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually i do....
i know full well that wandy and pence, and michael bourne for that matter are due for a payday, but do you know how much they are projected to make in arbitration?
wandy is projected at 6 mil, pence at 4, and bourne at 3.
ive mathematically looked at what it would take to hypothetically sign all those players, i didnt just throw random names out there. With some of the projections ive made the total team salary for the team i threw out would be at most 93 million, which is almost a ten mil decrease from this years salary and right about drayton said he wants it.
if you look at it: Ben Sheets, with his injury no one knows what he’ll make in free agency but it is going to be at most 6 million, and probly more around the ballpark of 4 1/2 to 5
Crede: he got a 1 year deal with the twins for 2.5 million; next year he will be a year older and be coming off some back issues, i projected it would cost around 4.5 million to sign him but it will likely take far less than that, he is making this year around the same amount as boone, blum, erstad, and brocail
decent 4th starter; this one is a little trickier to predict but of the guys i threw out there; myers, davis, millwood, contreras, Duchscherer, penny, hudson, cabrera, garland or wolfe, you are definitely going to be able to get one of those guys for the 4 mil i set aside for one of them
also if your dont like the signing sheets and one of those other guys for around 7 to 10 million, you could also take that money and offer 7 to 10 to a higher end option like lackey, pineiro, bedard, or brandon webb if he makes it to free agency and then have paulino or moehler as your number 5 guy
john buck is going to be nontendered by the royals, he isnt exactly going to be in high demand this offseason, but he is the perfect guy for the astros; buck who is already familiar with the stros organization as he was in the trade that brought back beltran, would be a great left handed side to a lefty righty platoon at the catcher spot, it will probly cost around 2.5 mil to grab him, so again not exactly ultra expensive
and set up man to transition, this is likely hawkins spot as im betting he will accept arbitration if the stros offer, i hope he doesnt because the stros could really use the draft pick and he is a type a player but my head says he will; if he does im guessing he will make around the 3.5 mil range in which he has maneuvered in the past couple of years, even if he makes 4 mil, that is exactly the amount i set aside for a closer next year so its all good
so no need to worry astrosws20 ive got it all figured out, if only drayton gave me ed wade’s job we could be back on our way to the playoffs next year
by strosfan31 on Sep 20, 2009 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The trouble with calling up Andrew Locke
Is that his performance at AA was truly exemplary and it would actually harm his career to bring him up only to sit on the bench and pinch hit every once in awhile. Sure, he will be a little old for his level at AAA next year, but only by about a year (he is 26 now, not 27). He could have a future as a starting outfielder and it would be a shame to waste that.
by OremLK on Sep 20, 2009 3:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know what I wouldn't mind seeing
is us carrying 3 catchers next year. I know we did for part of this year and I generally hate it but if we can keep coste he can play 1B also and then Castro and Towles. This way we can give Castro his shot and give Towles another shot and we’d have Coste there if they’re both faulting.
by Astrosws20 on Sep 20, 2009 12:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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