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Milwaukee Brewers at Houston Astros, Aug 7, 2009 7:05 PM CDT

Milwaukee Brewers at Houston Astros, Aug 7, 2009 7:05 PM CDT


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Carlos Villanueva

#12 / Pitcher / Milwaukee Brewers

6-2

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Nov 28, 1983

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2009 - Carlos Villanueva 2-8 45 2 0 0 3 5 52.2 57 36 35 8 21 44 5.98 1.48

Bud Norris

#31 / Pitcher / Houston Astros

6-0

225

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Mar 02, 1985

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2009 - Bud Norris 1-0 2 1 0 0 0 0 10.0 5 1 1 0 5 9 0.90 1.00

 

Brew Crew Ball

Brewers vs Astros coverage

I know it's a little early for the game thread to be posted, but I have the MPRE (ethics exam for lawyers) this morning and the Astros game tonight, so I won't be by a computer all day. DQ posted his optimized lineup article yesterday in the PM, but his schedule is hectic as well. Basically, I just wanted to be sure that the thread got posted in time. Also, this will be a nice place to get some Friday afternoon discussion going before everyone heads home from work, or wherever you are.

Some links to fill the day:

Zach Levine begs the question: is anything going right for the Astros right now?

The Astros have a pretty old AAA team.

Rest easy, Astros fans. We're not the easiest team to beat in the majors. That distinction lays with the KC Royals. Yuniesky Betancourt apparently was not their panacea.

James Taillon, a RHP from The Woodlands High School, will participate in the Under Armour All Star Game on Saturday. Congrats to the local product.

Taken from BrewCrewBall: Jason Kendall is quickly falling from the ranks of major league caliber players.

Don't worry Brewer fans, Humberto Quintero is the 300th ranked player in terms of VORP (for players with at least 100 PA), at -1.6, and Pudge Rodriguez comes in at #280 at -.6. It's gonna be a matchup of offensively inept backstops this weekend at the Juice Box.

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I don't think that is what the Hardball Times article says about the Express...

The Astros have a pretty old AAA team.

As I read the article, the Astros’ AAA team is almost exactly “average” in age for MLB AAA teams. The average AAA age is 27.0 and 27.2 for pitchers and hitters, and Round Rock’s average age is 27.2 and 27.2. Now, the Phillies have an old AAA team.

by clack on Aug 7, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll be in attendance tonight

I’m looking forward to seeing Norris in person. Free t-shirt, rookie making his home debut, division rival, friday night fireworks… a “W” would make this about the most ideal night to take in a game.

Go Astros!

by littlevisigoth on Aug 7, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ditto

ill be sitting on the first level, first base side

by Evan Hochschild on Aug 7, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

would be going

but cant…went to 2 SFG games….

Hope Norris’s home debut works out just as well BETTER than his road debut!

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 7, 2009 5:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

woah

didnt work out there…

meant to cross out “just as well” write next part…oh well…another failure using that…0-2

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 7, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

John Smoltz released by Bosox; Doug Brocail on DL again

Looks like some standard bearers are leaving the game

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 6:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

But Daryl Ward is a survivor

Washington Nationals picked him up from White Sox this week

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carlos Villanueva

Per Brew Crew ball:
Carlos Villanueva (2-8, 5.98) is coming off his best outing of the season, five scoreless innings with just two hits in his second start of 2009. He’s still in the process of getting stretched out, and will probably be good to go for 85-90 pitches and 6 innings or so tonight.

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 7:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Would anyone else prefer Erstad in CF over Michaels?

by clack on Aug 7, 2009 7:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Braun doubles down left field line

Counsel gunned down at the plate

by timmy_ on Aug 7, 2009 7:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bullet by Tejada

First, Tejada went fairly deep down left field line for the relay throw
Secod, He turned and fired a bullet to Pudge at home.

Pudge for his part blocked the plate to keep Counsel from touching home.

 I thought Carlos Lee was a lackadaisical in his thow to Tejada

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 7:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

On replay

Carlos not so lackadaisical.

 Mea culpa

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as pointed out by JD, it’s interesting that the Brewers’ 3d base coach was positioned where he could not see Lee in the corner at all, yet he was waving Counsel on like all get out.

by clack on Aug 7, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

probably an assumption of not great speed and not great arm

Really nice plays by all 3 Astros got the out. The decision to send seems logical, but…

by ol Pete on Aug 7, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What else could he do?

The ball disappeared.

His man was rounding third and no sign of Lee or the ball; and two outs.

I think Dave Clark would have sent him too

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying there is much he can do.

but I was surprised he was waving him so enthusiastically when his runner was just past 2d base.

by clack on Aug 7, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

astros’ bats looked like weak noodles in the 1st inning.

by clack on Aug 7, 2009 7:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Struck out this time

(as did Matsui to start the inning)

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pirates up

on Carpenter and the Cards. I wonder if they can hold on. If I gambled on baseball, I’m pretty sure I would lose.

by ol Pete on Aug 7, 2009 7:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bud Norris get's a K to end the 4th inning

Pudge caught the ball but it popped out, home ump ruled no contact was made by batter.

by timmy_ on Aug 7, 2009 8:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

correction

catalanotto K’s to end the top of the 4th inning

by timmy_ on Aug 7, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So as long as Norris doesn't pitch more than 50 innings

he’ll still qualify as a rookie next year

by timmy_ on Aug 7, 2009 8:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ryan Braun steals a double from Carlos Lee

Line drive tothe wall and Braun somehow got his glove up at the wall to catch it

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bud Norris

All I have seen him throw are fastballs and sliders. If he develops a changeup he can be one of the top pitchers in the league.

by HtownBoy1999 on Aug 7, 2009 8:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought Jason Kendall was washed up and not fit to be a major leaguer

He’s a hall of famera against the Astros

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 8:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lol

Its one of those seasons.

by HtownBoy1999 on Aug 7, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He and JJ Hardy

have that weird sort of groundswell of energy as the designated hated players this year. I don’t know if I’m describing it well. Hardy has always had a core of hatred. Now that he’s having a down year, tar and feathers!

by ol Pete on Aug 7, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bill Hall

From a recnet news Mewspaper article :" That’s a big gulp, without question. But, in essence, Hall is done as a meaningful player with the Brewers. He’s not in their plans"

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

probably see him tomorrow in RF

not that that contradicts what the article says

by ol Pete on Aug 7, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's kind of past that

now the hate is for the manager every time he puts him in the game. There are some people who think he should still get playing time. The guy I don’t get who has a big following of people who love him is Dave Bush. I sure don’t get that one. People talk about crying or having to deal with him being out of the lineup.

by ol Pete on Aug 7, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

JASON MICHAELS HOMERUN

Jason Michaels is two players , He’s reasonsbly good batter as a starter ; but a horrendous pinch hitter

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 8:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

MIGUEL TEJADA HOMERUN

Astros leads 3-2

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 8:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Geoff Blum's catch of foul ball in the stands an inning or two back

made the MLB.com Highlights and wasn’t even mentioned here at TCB.

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 8:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

The stros actually made it on ESPN. Thats weirds, aren’t the Sox and Yankees playing now?

by HtownBoy1999 on Aug 7, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good job Bud

That should be it for him.

by HtownBoy1999 on Aug 7, 2009 8:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Everybody believes Bud Norris is through for the night

as he leaves leading 3-2 after six innings

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 8:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And using a reliever as a starter and a starter as a reliever, IMO.

by ol Pete on Aug 7, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Sampson pitching in relief

How many times did the Round Rock Express score 6 runs for Bud Norris?

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 8:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

more like...

how many times did the Round Rock Express score 6 runs, period.

by clack on Aug 7, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

After two strikeouts

Brewers get back to back singles

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 9:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

another single

This one drives in a run.

Prince Fielder to bat.

Pitching change (Byrdak relieves Sampson)

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sampson still not right.

by clack on Aug 7, 2009 9:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Byrdak pitching to Fielder as tying run.

Not a good feeling…..but Fielder doesn’t like lefties.

by clack on Aug 7, 2009 9:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

.302 against lefties

.301 agaisnt righties

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Fielder struck out

but the umpire called it a ball instead of a strike and they said he didn’t swing . They could have rung him up either way; but didn’t ; and he walked on the next pitch

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Typical Byrdak…..walks the batter he was put in to face.

by clack on Aug 7, 2009 9:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

dang it

ball 4 .. bases loaded … I thought Byrdak usually wore glasses..must have contacts…and here comes Fulchino ..

And I understand why Coop is changing relievers the way he is .. but it still something I dont totally agree with..we’re up 6-3 and this is our 4th pitcher of the game… the brewers have used 2 so far (or is it 3? I think just 2.)

Strike 1 to Cameron. 0-2 to Cameron. Come on Fulchino

by strosfannate on Aug 7, 2009 9:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pitching change

Jeff Fulcihino (I think)

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 9:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hey clack

RJ Swindle and his 55 mph curveball cut and picked up by Rays. Did great in minors, but gave up runs when called up.

by ol Pete on Aug 7, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

interesting pitcher....

trying to be another Doug Jones? I am intrigued by someone throwing really slow to major league hitters…just like I’m intrigued by knuckleballers.

by clack on Aug 7, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he threw a lot of low 80s stuff

the curveball was his out pitch and it worked great. A couple guys smiled after he K’d them. He just couldn’t get to it.

by ol Pete on Aug 7, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

was it Spahn who said..
 “hitting is timing; pitching is disrupting timing.”

by clack on Aug 7, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Strike Out

Fulchino Ks Cameron..

Brewers leave ’em loaded

by strosfannate on Aug 7, 2009 9:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't even realize bases were loaded

that was a BIG strikeout

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carlos Lee thrown out trying to stretch single to double.

by clack on Aug 7, 2009 9:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Blum squeezes a double into a single

by ol Pete on Aug 7, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh. probably right about that.

and if he was on 2d, the DP wouldn’t have been in order.

by clack on Aug 7, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blum’s pop up fell in for a hit. I had a feeling that would happen after Lee was thrown out. Always does.

by clack on Aug 7, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lead off single in the 9th for Brewers.

by clack on Aug 7, 2009 9:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Red Sox - Yankees scoreless in the tenth

They need Jason Michaels

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 9:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If Valverde walks Counsel, Braun and Fielder would be up as tying runs.

by clack on Aug 7, 2009 9:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

GIDP after 3-0 count….maybe JD was right.

by clack on Aug 7, 2009 9:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

GIDP

makes it look easier

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 9:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Consistently throwing FBs to Braun, but his command of the FB hasn’t been good lately.

by clack on Aug 7, 2009 9:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Got Him

K to end the game!!

Astros win 6-3 :D

by strosfannate on Aug 7, 2009 9:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ASTROS WIN 6-3

Memorable game for Bud Norris and Jason Michaels

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 7, 2009 9:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How can we get Michaels more playing time?

"A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings." ~Earl Wilson

by hunterpencefan on Aug 7, 2009 9:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

pretend all of his other games never happened.

Your friendly neighborhood Dream Shake mod.

by Only_A_Lad on Aug 7, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How can we get Michaels more playing time?

"A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings." ~Earl Wilson

by hunterpencefan on Aug 7, 2009 9:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bud Norris

I like Bud Norris so far …. he does seem to walk his share of batters, but other than that he seems to pitch very well so far … and remains calm and focused for the most part …..

by strosfannate on Aug 7, 2009 9:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sorry about double post.

"A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings." ~Earl Wilson

by hunterpencefan on Aug 7, 2009 9:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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