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Wandylicious.

First off, a tip of the cap to Wandy Rodriguez who was named NL Pitcher of the month for July. A 4-0 record with a microscopic .75 ERA.

Darin Erstad is on his way back! He's in AA now either working on some fake punt plays, or rehabbing for his return to the Astros..either one is possible.

Ex-Astro farmhand Cody Ransom isn't exactly tearing it up for the Bronx Bombers, and one Yankee fan has had enough. I dunno how someone can be so upset at someone who so little was expected of to begin with.

Hump Day got ya down? Take a look at this bit of comedy, courtesy of Ryan Howard and Jimmy Rollins. If that doesn't make you chuckle, then look for the Will Farrell video where the baby curses at him.

Count Hank Aaron among those people who think that releasing the names of those players who tested positive for steroids in the now infamous 2003 test will help MLB.

Among the other notable injuries to ML players, Edinson Volquez' name sticks out for fans of NL Central clubs. The righty could be lost for all of 2010 in addition to the rest of the 2009 season.

Asst. GM for the San Diego Padres, Paul DePodesta, has his own blog. Yesterday he opined about some of the youngsters that the Padres are playing.

Speaking of those guys, they apparently nixed a blockbuster of a trade that involved Adrian Gonzalez and Felix Hernandez all changing addresses.

Baseball + brains = this.

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We've talked about steroids a lot recently

but this was posted over at BTB in the link you posted, and I thought it was fairly interesting. As a philosophy student, I tend to spend a lot of time thinking about moral problems, and the steroids issue is probably the only moral issue that really intersects with my love for baseball (well, that and some collective bargaining issues, but by now I’ve been trained to look at those through an economist’s eyes).

Anyways, the author (Goldwater) attempts to come up with a moral principle explaining why so many people think that steroid use is wrong. He settles on what I think is a fairly accurate description of how people think the universe operates:

Many people operate — implicitly, probably — with what I’ll call the "religious concept" of the person. This religious concept holds that there is a Way People Are, and this Way is Natural and Right. This Way, perhaps crafted in the image of God, is immutable and unchanging, an essence, if you will (and even if you won’t).

If the Natural is Right, then the Unnatural is Wrong. If there is a Way People Are which is natural and right, then there is some other deviant Way People Could Be, which is unnatural and wrong. And because this Way People Are is Essential, and so unchanging, the religious concept of person believes that tampering with- and so changing- what is natural is itself unnatural and wrong.

I think that’s a pretty good description of a certain view of the difference between the “natural” and “unnatural.” I’m not sure that that is how people really operate – while the vast majority of people seem to have a moral problem with steroids (that’s not to say that they have the same “Off with their heads!” attitude that many in the media have), they are also quite willing to do a lot that would seem to cross that natural/unnatural divide. And (and this was brought up in the comments section of the article) they don’t seem quite as upset about football players using steroids.

In philosophy, we have this tendency to see defining principles where there probably isn’t any such principle. The exercise that Goldwater engages in is similar to what philosophers try to do with the “Trolley Problem” and other such thought experiments that seem to reveal people’s inconsistencies. I don’t think most people are really rational when it comes to ethics and morality. They don’t say steroids are bad but performance-enhancing equipment is good because they have really thought this thing out – they do it because one thing is alien and the other is familiar. Trying to find some principle in this is just a silly exercise. Really, I think the guiding principle for people in steroid use is that it just seems wrong. But that’s no reason to ban it.

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by Only_A_Lad on Aug 5, 2009 11:47 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Aren't there opposing views of man (oversimplified)

Some believing man is basically good, and society should punish those who stray.

The other being man is basically evil; and society should punish those who don’t control their natural evil instincts.

Reminds me of an irrelevant joke I heard the other day, “If men are from Mars and women are from Venus, where are teenagers from?”

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by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 5, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steriods are Illegal

Aside from medical use, Steriods are illegal. How are players getting steriods? Other countries and unethical doctors writing them prescriptions for steroids when they don’t need them for medical reasons.

by timmy_ on Aug 6, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

See, that's the point of the article.

Laws are founded on some sort of moral principle. We make things illegal because we think it’s wrong to do them. And yet people can’t seem to explain why they think steroids are wrong, and so the law is unfounded, and so there’s good reason to just repeal the law.

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by Only_A_Lad on Aug 6, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BUT you have to think of the children!

=P

I thought you were just talking in the context of MLB. =)

by timmy_ on Aug 6, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But the law has yet to be repealed

whether laws are founded on some sort of moral principle or not is irrelevant. The law says that it is wrong and until the law is repealed it will remain illegal to use steroids (or PED’S if you prefer)

by Professional Assassin on Aug 6, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cecil Fielder and the Dodgers

Dodgers pitcher plunked Prince Fielder with 2 outs in the ninth as retaliation for Brewers hitting Manny Ramirez. Fielder after the game stormed toward the Dodgers locker room, to be stopped before he entered the locker room. Here’s a recap from the Brew Crew of the ninth inning aprt:

Sure, the Brewers lost 17-4 and that sucks and is also really embarrassing (it was the most runs by the Dodgers at home since 1979), but the bigger story is the inexplicable drilling of Prince Fielder in the top of the 9th with two out.

Former Brewer Guillermo Mota was on the mound. The Dodgers were up 13 runs and had one out to go and HAD A PITCHER WARMING IN THE BULLPEN.

Then Mota drills Fielder in the leg and immediately heads towards the dugout, with a bit of a chest puff out, glaring and generally preening.

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by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 5, 2009 11:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what's with

the Brewers’ players getting all pissy when the other team retaliates for something they or their teammates did?

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by Only_A_Lad on Aug 5, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

going through the boxscore, Kuroda hit Cattalanotto, then Smith hit Ramirez, then Swindle hit Pierre, and then Mota hit Fielder. Looks nice and even to me. Maybe those others weren’t intentional, but LA obviously felt that they had reason to throw at Fielder.

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by Only_A_Lad on Aug 5, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN says Ramirez hit but "less purposeful":

The trouble started when Manny Ramirez was hit by a pitch in the seventh while Los Angeles had a nine-run lead, but it didn’t boil over until Guillermo Mota was ejected for drilling Fielder with two outs in the ninth. Dodgers catcher Russell Martin acknowledged it was a response to Chris Smith hitting Ramirez with what appeared to be a much less purposeful pitch.

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by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 5, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They didn't have a reason

Russell Martin even admitted it wasn’t about the Brewers, it was about protecting Manny’s feelings. It reminds me of the Pirates throwing at Braun’s injured back up near his head and then pointing out that Dave Bush later hit batters. Of course Bush was throwing his twisty soft junk and some of the HBP were brushing jerseys. Is it ok to throw a 100 mph fastball at Roy’s lower back because some reliever brushs a jersey?

by ol Pete on Aug 5, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

crap

Bourn won’t be in the lineup tonight.

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by Only_A_Lad on Aug 5, 2009 11:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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