Thursday Morning Astros, etc Round Up
Miguel Tejada has now been around long enough to have been a part of two golden ages of short stops.
As the August 17 signing deadline for draft picks approaches, Baseball Prospectus is featuring a two part installment on the draft and what can be done to fix it. As it stands, there are still 19 first round picks who are unsigned. The slotting system is partially to blame and the strength of the player's union stands in the way of any meaningful change. One interesting quote from an unnamed scout about the draft should hit home with Astros' fans
The good thing about baseball is that the system itself rewards preparation and intelligence and scouting, and punishes those who don't do a good job.
Joba Chamberlain is a tough guy to figure out:
In the Bizarro World that Joba Chamberlain inhabits, the better he pitches, the fewer times he'll get the ball, while the worse he pitches, the more starts he'll get between now and the finish line.
Come again?
TangoTiger looks at whether Pitcher Abuse Points actually work in determining the risk associated with pitch counts and starting pitchers. He basically shows that he can't prove that it does, and that people put too much stock into this theory.
I think it's safe to say that we have our fair share of free time on our hands. Do you ever think you'll have enough time to figure out the Astros' record based on the particular uniform worn? One guy did. It's amazing how little we wear our "primary" road unis: the grey uniform with black cap. I guess Drayton likes the red unis the most.
If Dustin Pedroia was the 2008 MVP, then Aaron Hill should be in the running this season. Oh, what's that? Pedroia plays for RedSawx Nation and Hill doesn't? Oh, well in that case. Yea, yea- I know Boston was a relevant team last season and the Jays are a middling club this season...but still.
***Trivia Question****:
I was listening to Mike and Mike in the Morning yesterday, and Jason Stark posed the following trivia question to the guys:
Can you name the six active major leaguers who have nine or more career seasons of 100+ RBI?
[**DQ Insert**]
Richard Justice checks in with Drayton McLane to see what this season's poor attendence holds for the 2010 Astros. What found isn't encouraging for anyone hoping for a splashy free agent signing:
With Chris Johnson showing little to actually no improvement in plate discipline at AAA this year and my inherient skepticism at Manzella's defensive ability at SS, I'm a little worried.
Miguel Tejada is apparently a tough cookie to bench. His argument is a valid one given that my inquiry into what an off day could do for Tejada at the plate revealed in December (that it really only helps his SLG); maybe he doesn't need one, provided the hits keep coming for Miggy. The article also notes that he's on pace to become the first Astro to collect 200 hits since Craig Biggio did it in 1998. There's also more explanation on Wesley Wright's trip to the DL. Note to Drayton: Please, please evaluate Coop's ability to manage his relief pitchers this year when considering whether or not to continue allowing him to manage the Astros.
Darin Erstad sings the praises of Michael Bourn's defense in this piece from Brian McTaggart. I was struck by Erstad's note that:
Erstad's evaluation of Bourn's defensive ability is consistent with what has previously been hashed out here at TCB. This discussion even took place over at BtB recently, where it was concluded that yes, Bourn is better than his 2009 UZR would indicate.
With one in the win column last night, Richard Justice concurs with my opinion that our Vitamin Puma deficiency was causing our skid and is starting the bandwagon back up again. He's even going as far to assert his belief that the Astros could still hit the 90 win mark that Coop predicted.
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early morning quick shots in the dark
Manny, Vlad, A-rod, Griffey, Thome, and… I don’t know, Carlos Lee?
I’ll cheat and do some research when I get to the office.
by littlevisigoth on Aug 13, 2009 7:34 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
early morning quick shots in the dark
Manny, Vlad, A-rod, Griffey, Thome, and… I don’t know, Carlos Lee?
I’ll cheat and do some research when I get to the office.
by littlevisigoth on Aug 13, 2009 7:35 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn'
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 13, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn't Berkman, Tejada and maybe Pudge Rodriguez be on the list? (as well as Carlos )
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 13, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what about pujols...
didnt he just reach that accomplishment…?
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 13, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ill give everyone a hint
there is one player in each of the six divisions
by Evan Hochschild on Aug 13, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my votes
NL Central – Pujols
AL Central – Thome
NL West – Manny
AL West – Vlad
NL East – Shefffield
AL East – Aroid
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 13, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry for the double post
i was brushing my teeth and might have hit carriage return, then clicked post.
anyway, Griffey wasn’t too bad a guess. he’s got 8, but with three other seasons in the 90s. too many injury-shortened seasons, i guess. Lee was a dumb guess, but it hadn’t occurred to me that Pujols was in his 9th season, and i thought maybe there would be an Astro in there (kinda like when they do the Aflac trivia and the answer is almost ALWAYS somebody in the ballpark). Jones should be obvious, but i try to avoid thinking about him at all costs.
four out of six ain’t bad, without really giving it much thought.
by littlevisigoth on Aug 13, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting to see the difference between Astros and Yankees......
The Yankees have a policy of holding young starting pitchers to an inning pitched per year increase of 50 innings. Therefore, Joba will be shut down in the regular season when he reaches 160 innings, as indicated in the linked article. Apparently, the Astros have no policy, and this means Norris will blow past 160 innings—-even though he pitched considerably fewer innings last year than Joba.
Again, I would point to Edison Volquez as the most recent reminder of why the Yankees’ approach is the safest way to go.
by clack on Aug 13, 2009 8:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
something else I'll point out....
Tango’s test of Pitcher Abuse Points doesn’t take the age of the pitcher into account. I think there is a distinct difference (in the theory at least) of pitch count issues for veteran pitchers and innings limitations for young pitchers who have yet to build up their workload tolerance.
by clack on Aug 13, 2009 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joba is correct
The Yankees approach should hit home with TCB regulars. It mirrors our discussion of how much should Bud Norris be used this season. The difference as Clack notes is that the Yankees restrict the number of innings that a pitcher can throw (it should be pitches an not innings (but who’s to squabble now).
Joba (and not HLP) is correct. If Joba is limited to 160 innings, and for discussion puroses let’s assume he’s thrown 120 innigs so far, that means the Yankees will limit him to 40 more innings this season.
That means if i he pitches well – for example 8 innings a game – he will make 5 more starts. On the other hand, if he pitches ineffectively – for example 4 innings a start – he could make 10 more starts (if there are enough games left in the season)
I need to read the article again to see if the 160 innings includes post-season.
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 13, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The 160 innings is for the regular season
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Aug 13, 2009 9:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My stab at it
A-Rod
Thome
Vlad
Carlos Delgado
Pujols
Manny
The Crawfishboxes
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by Stephen Higdon on Aug 13, 2009 11:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i have same as u...
except my NL east is Sheffield…
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 13, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
NL East is Chipper
everyone always forgets about that douchebag.
Your friendly neighborhood Dream Shake mod.
by Only_A_Lad on Aug 13, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was actually
going btwn chipper and sheffield…i was gonna put chipper in parentheses….
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Aug 13, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn you Chipper Jones
I wonder how many times I’ve had to say that in my lifetime?
The Crawfishboxes
A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
by Stephen Higdon on Aug 13, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sheffield's not a bad guess
but he only has 7 seasons (out of his LOOOONG 22 season career) with over 500AB’s. hadn’t realized that. like Griffey, he falls just short with 8.
by littlevisigoth on Aug 13, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait
i’m counting 9 for Delgado as well… is it six OTHER than Pujols?
by littlevisigoth on Aug 13, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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