Washington Nationals at Houston Astros, Jul 9, 2009 7:05 PM CDT
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Washington Nationals Thursday, Jul 9, 2009, 7:05 PM CDT Partly cloudy. Game time temperature around 95.
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This will be an interesting game following the complete of 05/04/09's rain out. I'm just excited because I scored a ticket to the twofer (of sorts). HLP already posted a mini-game thread for the 6:05 Game and I have this one se to role out at 7:00 PM for the scheduled game. I really am just confused as to how the logistics of the make up game will work, so I'm not sure what to do about this gamethread. It will be an interesting day for the Astros and for the denizens of TCB.
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Astros quickly losing main game.
Johnson with a hit, and advances on a WP, then goes to third as Pudge’s throw sails wide. A hit scores Johnson.
1-0.
Another wild throw??
grr
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
2-0 Nats now.
Carlos Lee misjudges long flyball by Dunn which goes for a double. At first television didn’t show Lee as he was behind the jutting wall in LF. Replay shows that the ball came down just behind him, and he appeared to misjudge it.
Pitiful defense
Lee almost misjudged another, i don’t agree with JD that he lost it in the lights….. thats Lees’ Defense.
people talk about the Nationals having a historically bad defense...
compare it to the first Mets team.
But really the Astros seem to want to say, “anything you can do, we can do better” (or worse as the case may be).
Berkman scores on Pence single...
Berkman might have been thrown out if Dunn had thrown more accurately.
why why why
Why couldn’t miggy have turned that dp in the first game??
Lannan with a double
Lannan is very slow, but when he saw that Carlos Lee was nonchalanting getting to the ball, he took 2d.
It's cool, Carlos
no need to try to get to that ball or anything.
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that was ridiculous...
first, Lee misjudged the carom, and then instead of running full speed to get to it, he was just doing a fast walk toward it…not even a jog.
This has been the most astounding display of fielding in baseball history.
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I'm thinking it was good
I missed the first four innings
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Astros taking nationals too lightly??
seems like a few of them are not really in the game(s)
yes, that thought crossed my mind.
in fact, I was kind of concerned about that before the games started—-particularly whether they would take the suspended game seriously enough. It kind of reminds me of that first game against the Padres, when it seemed like the Astros were taking that team too lightly.
seems like the defens and offense in particular play down
to the level of team they are playing… i do the same thing when playing my wife in pool. difficult habit to break out of when a really good team or in my case player comes along.
by Cor on Jul 9, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
you c lee
even the freakin pitcher ortiz is hustling…you are getting paid even more than him and you refuse to hustle
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 9, 2009 7:49 PM CDT reply actions
this game needs a theme song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVS3QqrXhD8
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Bourn swings at a pitch that didn't reach the plate
I love this team
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it's been an hour
And we’re still in the top of the 3rd?!
by littlevisigoth on Jul 9, 2009 8:04 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
stupidest. game. ever.
hbp to load the bases. inning ends on a freaking rundown.
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2 runs score on a single with bases loaded, 2 out.
Bourn’s throw was wild, and went past Pudge….Astros F’d up rundown and Nats F’d up base running until a runner was out.
Fulchino takes over now....
odd move, but I’ve come to expect that from Coop.
Fulchino can’t handle infield ball and it goes for a hit.
Ortiz out after only 68 pitches
Injury?
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs"
-Earl Weaver
I would boo too
They are booinmg because they see noone absolutely noone hustling. if he had started running from the box he would have had a stand up triple.
Blum has hamstring issues
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs"
-Earl Weaver
Blum does have hamstring issues
But again if had run out of the box instead of trying to turn it on at second he would have easily made it
I join the game in progress
Ryan Zimmerman showed why he deserves to be in the All Star game.
Reading this thread And having watched the part inningof the first game) it seems the Astros defense tonight is unexplainably bad
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2009 8:33 PM CDT reply actions
I think it's explainable
and it wears #15
This is not a new problem….and it ties in to bad baserunning, poor coaching decisions, mysterious personnel moves…which we have seen all season long.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs"
-Earl Weaver
Pudge getting battered behind the plate
A foul tip to the chest
A foul tip to the mask.
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2009 8:41 PM CDT reply actions
hunter thrown out stealing on 1st pitch
perfect throw to second
Pudge opens with a double
Can’t help but think back to the caught stealing at the end of the last inning……
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs"
-Earl Weaver
He's a fast healer
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I can’t say that I saw how fast he was running. But I will defend him if he has a hamstring problem that he is protecting. I don’t know how serious it is. But JD seemed to think that Blum was right for stopping at 2d earlier.
Also, stop sign was put on by the 3rd base "coach"
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs"
-Earl Weaver
on the double
Blum trotted out of the box and only kicked it in when he saw that the ball was not caught by the diving center fielder. He ran hard all the way on Keps triple. my only criticism was that the team as a whole (not just blum) were not seeming to run very hard. but its all a moot point now that we have the lead….
by Cor on Jul 9, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Bunt question
Would anyone out there say Let Michaels bunt since he is such a bad hitter and maybe he can bunt Keppinger home?
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2009 9:10 PM CDT reply actions
did I miss something...did Michaels bat already?
by clack on Jul 9, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
nah
id just let michaels take all the time, hope either for 4 balls or a HBP…im not sure how the F—- he has a job
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 9, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
and, as much as I like him,
at least we don’t have Dunn playing LF. Even Carlos is better than that.
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Adam Dunn, STL
(Slower than Lee)
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs"
-Earl Weaver
I think there about equal...
but maybe would pay to see a foot race….it might require a drink break midway in the run.
And a calendar to time it!
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs"
-Earl Weaver
triple to LEFT FIELD
Won’t see that often at MMP
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2009 9:12 PM CDT reply actions
nope
only bourn can do it…
btw i think he was out, but not by much
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 9, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not watching...
How did Bourn triple to left? Did Dunn do something dumb?
yes...misplayed.
Ball was off the LF wall…to high to catch, but Dunn apparently lost sight of it and was too close to the wall as it ricocheted back.
yeah
he either misjudged the ball’s flight badly or lost it in the lights. Then it bounced off the wall towards 3B. Bourn was really hauling ass and just barely avoided the tag.
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yes and no
dunn tried to act like it was going to be a sac fly, u can tell, when he took eye off ball to check if blum was still at 3rd…then dunn quickly turned around only to misplay ball off wall and it goes by him…meanwhile bourn is hustling to 3rd…bourn slides in to a safe call (tho it cud have gone either way)
btw i think if that was carlos lee hitting he wuda been out at 1st
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 9, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Well - yes
Bourn hit the ball high to left. Dunn stops about 20 feet in front of the wall looking up like it was a lazy fly; then it looked like he had no idea where the ball was . The ball hit the wall ; rolled about two thirds of the way back to the infield. By the time Dunn chased the ball down, Bourn was flashing to third (Close play at third though)
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe bill james needs to talk to Cooper about the shift.
he could speak like the chorus in that moneyball script.
because Cooper is going to show
some sudden inclination to learn about the mathematics of baseball?
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs"
-Earl Weaver
Miggy makes a spectacular play from the outfield grass
but can’t turn an easy DP in the first game to give it away. still fuming here to joe
A big bowl of popcorn and two tablespoons of Peanut Butter
and I mellowed
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
love peanut butter but it never mellowed me likea bowl of ice cream late at night
by Cor on Jul 9, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Whatever happened to
adult beverages and pharmaceuticals?
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs"
-Earl Weaver
the only way to survive
an Astros season!
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs"
-Earl Weaver
Had tro give up ice cream
but Blue Bell. cookies and milk used to be my favorite
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
What??
I’ve eaten across the street from some of the best restaurants in the world
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank God Dunn went to the NLE
Dude always has killed us.
relieved! and happy
Byrdak made it through the inning easily
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2009 9:25 PM CDT reply actions
Assuming we win tonight..
Who thinks we’ll find a way to lose tomorrow trying once again to get to .500?
Roy Oswalt pitches tomorrow
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
but Roy seems to have the strangest problems with the Nats
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I'm thinking tomorrow
the Nats will have problems with Roy
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
That makes me feel better
I was thinking it was BM. Roy will likely give us a chance but it seems like someone also finds a way to make us lose when we can get to .500
recently:
the beating in San Fran
The meltdown that gave the pirates 4 runs late/Keps DP with bases loaded
Miggys error today
this team is hard to predict.
but if they keep their heads screwed on right, they should win the series. The Nationals are a very bad team. They are coming off an embarrassing sweep to the Rockies where they stunk up the joint with bad defense, bad base running, bad relief pitching, etc.
We have the advantage of playing
the only team in the majors that has not yet won 10 games on the road.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs"
-Earl Weaver
and they
have the advantage of playing a team managed by one Cecil Cooper
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Cooper is going to start managing?
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs"
-Earl Weaver
that's exactly the problem
if he sat there and did nothing, the Astros might be over .500
(on the other hand, the astros are ridiculously outperforming their pythag record. I’m going to count this as evidence against the theory that managers explain that)
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by Only_A_Lad on Jul 9, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Actually, if you use the log5 method
to analyze the games the Astros should have won, they are 2 short. The advantage of log5 is that it takes into account the strength of schedule, and the Astros schedule has been weaker than average since the beginning of the year.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs"
-Earl Weaver
Fire Cooper
Hire Biggio. Yeah I know he wants to be around to coach his sons baseball team. Solution…sign Conner to a contract and put a traveling teacher in the contract for him. Assign him to the GCL that way Bidge can coach his son at the ML level. haha
nah, here's my list
1) Manny Acta (after he’s inevitably fired)
2) JD
3) Beg Larry Dierker to come back
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Whatever happened to the
“Magic 8 Ball” that you can ask Yes/No questions?
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs"
-Earl Weaver
Didn't Bill Veeck
once have a game (either with the White Sox or Browns) where he allowed the crowd to vote on the strategy during the game? Why don’t we do that? Couldn’t be any worse.
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I think you are right
that actually happened. I can’t argue with the idea, except to remind you that a camel is defined as a horse designed by a committee.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs"
-Earl Weaver
If the committee is the CrawfishBoxes
It’ll at least look like a horse (but maybe it’s knees will be backward)
Infield hit question
Why was Matsui ’s hit an infield hit.? It was picked up by centerfielder.
(JD asking the same thing – Let him coach and let me broadcast )
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2009 9:46 PM CDT reply actions
97 mile fastball on the elbow
Ouch
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2009 9:47 PM CDT reply actions
JD
I’ve always said that I’d like him as a manager. His knowledge seems to be pretty good and he always questions Coop on his stupid moves.
He has also very carefully
talked about the morale problems – which may be the entire issue.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs"
-Earl Weaver
you think JD would take it?
seems like he is to smart to take a managers position.
He's under contract to the Astros
Same situation as when Dierker was broadcasting.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs"
-Earl Weaver
Do ya'll think JD would make a good manager
Also, do you think Dierk would come back? A la Cito Gaston
Absolutely JD would make a good manager
Don’t know if Dierk would come back
by Cor on Jul 9, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
what u guys think
of phil garner?
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 9, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
or y not let
someone like tim bogar or heck CRAIG BIGGIO take the job!
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 9, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I doubt Dierker would come back
he’s, what, in his 70s? And he was already run out of the job for bad reasons. Coupled with health concerns, I think that his previous experiences with Drayton would prevent him from taking on a management role.
Might come back as an announcer, though.
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Hire J.D. as manager
and Dierk takes his place in the booth with Brownie. I’d like that trifecta of moves. Although I would miss J.D. in the booth. Brownie doesnt exactly have the skills to make you laugh.
Berkman 3 run homerun
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2009 9:50 PM CDT reply actions
haha
when that pitch went past bard i knew lee wasnt runnin
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 9, 2009 9:53 PM CDT reply actions
Not counting tonight's game
the Astros are 28-6 in games when they score 5 runs or more.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs"
-Earl Weaver
The last time they lost one of those
was four hours ago
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Not technically correct, but I see your point.
Astros are 7-30 when the opponents score 5 runs or more.
And analysts advocate a return to small ball?
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs"
-Earl Weaver
"We're really bad at getting on base
“so, therefore, we need to give away more of our outs! Yeah, that makes perfect sense.”
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we have had 34 now 35 games of 5 runs or more???
Never would have thought that!
by Cor on Jul 9, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
5 runs a game is just a touch above average
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs"
-Earl Weaver
and that's what's so remarkable about the Astros doing that
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Point well made!
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs"
-Earl Weaver
Other NL Central games
Cardinals beat Brewers (Five run 8th )
Reds lost
I think Cubs and Pirates took the day off
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2009 9:54 PM CDT reply actions
both cubs and bucs
are off, u r correct!
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 9, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
must say
as i usually do with coops decisions, i disagree with bringing valverde in…
closers not so effective when not in save situation…
hope valverde does fine tho
(throwing 96…sweet!)
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 9, 2009 9:58 PM CDT reply actions
and...
to me, valverde seems very off tonite, got lucky with previous hitter swining and missin…
valverde missing very high tonite
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 9, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Has Barry Bonds officially retired ?
just curious
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2009 10:05 PM CDT reply actions
not sure
if i had to guess, id say no
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 9, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think so
but Frank Thomas recently announced he was close to officially retiring.
I thought that was hilarious.
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ASTROS WIN 9-4
This game was a tale of two Astros teams – the Keystone cops version in the first three innings and the professional Astros team the last six innings
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 9, 2009 10:08 PM CDT reply actions
Post-game show
Ortiz seems really upset with the way he’s been handled. Did not like being pulled when he got pulled tonight, and it sounds like he thinks he’s being jerked around by a manager who doesn’t like his pitching style.
to be fair
when your “pitching style” is “walk a bunch of dudes and give up runs,” then you should expect to be pulled.
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that was Ortiz's pitching style, even when he was he a good pitcher.
He has always had a bend but don’t break style. It was very frustrating when he pitched against the Astros, because it always seemed like you had lots of base runners but couldn’t get many runs. In this game, pulling Ortiz was utter stupidity. Use up your bullpen and piss off your pitchers, Cooper. In the long run the team will regret it. In his post game press conference, Cooper gave no good reason for pulling Ortiz, other than he felt like it, and he said, “I know it’s not a popular thing to do.”
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