Houston Astros at San Francisco Giants, Jul 5, 2009 3:05 PM CDT
Houston Astros at San Francisco Giants, Jul 5, 2009 3:05 PM CDT
The Big Unit's numbers are difficult to sort through this season. He brings a rather gaudy ERA for someone as heralded as himself, but his advanced stats are kind of all over the place in terms of evaluating how good he's actually been: 3.77 xFIP 5.01 tRA 4.39 tRA*. I guess you can just got a head and decide which of those stats you trust the most and use that as your evaluation. The Wizard was a wizard his last time out against the Padres and his advanced stats speak to the strong season that he is having: 4.02 xFIP4.10 tRA 4.32 tRA*.
At some point, one has to assume that the Astros will be able to put a crooked number up on the score board in this series, but after being bull dozed 22-0 in the last seventeen innings of baseball, I can't bring myself to assume anything.
Hopefully the rest of your Fourth of July weekend has gone better than the Astros has. If not, I am really, really sorry.
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I'm almost afraid to watch this game
When projecting how Astros wouldd fare in the last twelve games before the All Star game, I projected the Astro losing 2 of 3 in San Francisco; but I never saw them being lambasted. I cannot recall seeing such total dominance offensively and defensively a s occured the first two games ofthis series.
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 3:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
HOMERUN MIGUEL TEJAJDA
Send that man to the All Star game!
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 3:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good points for this game: Astros are good hitters against LHP, one of the best in the league against lefties. Tejada who just hit a HR is an example. Randy Johnson had a 7+ ERA vs. Astros last year.
Bad point: why in the hell would you play Michaels in a centerfield which is one of the toughest to cover in baseball.
by clack on Jul 5, 2009 3:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why keep Jason Michaels on the team at all?
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In Earlier NL Central Games
Pirates LOST 5-0
Cardinals BEAT Reds 10-1
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 3:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Broadcasters are blaming bad outfield positioning for the way Pence looked (like a chicken with his head cut off) in RF during Friday’s game. Starting yesterday, Pence pinches in to cover huge alley at this ballpark.
by clack on Jul 5, 2009 3:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Keppinger doubled to start the third
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nice....
Molina makes a bad throw!!!
"now you chunkin' in there.."
by jano4 on Jul 5, 2009 3:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
1st and 3rd
0 out
"now you chunkin' in there.."
by jano4 on Jul 5, 2009 3:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oswalt bunted
Giants tried to get Keppinger at third ; But bad throw. Astros have runners on corners with no outs
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Matsui
put the ball in play
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
weak....fly ball
why is he still on the team….jeez
"now you chunkin' in there.."
by jano4 on Jul 5, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
from the beginning of Matsui's at bat...
I was thinking suicide squeeze. would probably have worked. no pitch outs were made and Matsui is an excellent bunter.
by clack on Jul 5, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matsui has his moments
Comment may be more suited to Carlos Lee the past week or two
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fly out to shallow right
Keppinger stays at third
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if Keppinger had more speed he could have scored on that short fly to right.
by clack on Jul 5, 2009 3:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
damn...
the old master Johnson….showing while he has lasted this long in the league….
"now you chunkin' in there.."
by jano4 on Jul 5, 2009 3:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now Johnson gets to face the one Astros batter who hits lefties poorly…Berkman.
by clack on Jul 5, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Weak hitting
ways continue….
"now you chunkin' in there.."
by jano4 on Jul 5, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Astros could not score
after getting runners on the corners with no outs
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if I have ever seen Carlos Lee struggle this much at the plate.
by clack on Jul 5, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
HUNTER PENCE HOMERUN
Send that man to the All Star game
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 3:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
AllStar!!!
Hunter Pence….nice to see the players voted him in.
"now you chunkin' in there.."
by jano4 on Jul 5, 2009 3:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Michaels
what the hell!!!! was that…HR
"now you chunkin' in there.."
by jano4 on Jul 5, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Michaels with 1st HR of season....
do we have to take back what we said earlier in the thread, Joe?
by clack on Jul 5, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes - for today
but tomorrow is another day
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JASON MICHAELS HOMERUN
Send that man to the All Star Game
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And you guys criticized Cooper for playing Michaels
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't
take it back Joe…that is the blind squirell syndrome for Michaels…He usually hits 1 a year….
"now you chunkin' in there.."
by jano4 on Jul 5, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just One Day - he earned a one day respite
Before the first game of the season I said I did not see any reason for either of the Jasons to be on the team. Jason Smith is gone. I keep expectingJason Michales to go any day, but it look l ike he just rented himself another month with the team
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well well...
maybe those last 2 games were just a blip….
"now you chunkin' in there.."
by jano4 on Jul 5, 2009 3:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is the kind of defenisve play that did Oritz in yesterday
Good to see the Astros benefit from it
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Do you think Randy Johnson did hurt his left shoulder when he batted ?
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 4:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have overextended my shoulder when I play tennis (I do it when I am near the net and I jump for an overhead). And it hurts like hell and forces me to slow down my serves during the match. Luckily, it goes away by the next day or so, for me.
It’s caused by swinging some weight without adequate support, so that the shoulder is taking all of the stress…which ic exactly how that swing by RJ looked.
by clack on Jul 5, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you jump
do your feet leave the ground?
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
when I overextended, yes. I have to consciously think, don’t do that, even if lands as a lob…I have to remember I’m not Pete Sampras, who was so good at that.
by clack on Jul 5, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I leap highin the air
I think I get to my tiptoes
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs BEAT Brewers 8-2
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 4:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
NL Central is getting tighter. It would be nice if we could pass a few teams this home-stand.
by Killer Bee on Jul 5, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Carlos Lee…the mean, lean, double play machine.
by clack on Jul 5, 2009 4:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Will Pence start the All Star game?
Jim DeShaies pointed out that two of the three outfilers voted to the NL team are injured.
(Either way I hope Pence does NOT participate in the Home Run Derby)
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it depends on the vote for the final spot and the players picked as replacement for injured players. Beltran is injured, and Pence is the only remaining outfielder with CF experience. Of course, Victorino or Kemp could win the final vote. Or Kemp or someone might be added as a replacement.
by clack on Jul 5, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about right field?
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am guessing Ryan Braun starts in RF....
I think several other RFers (Brad Hawpe, I recall) are on the team too.
by clack on Jul 5, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Braun is already a starter
Unless they add a starter, the three reserve outfielders currently are Hunter Pence, Brad Hawpe, and Justin Upton. Two of those three may start in place of the injured Raul Ibanez and Carlos Beltran
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know he is already a starter...
but Braun was mostly likely going to play RF if Ibanez had started. Without Ibanez, Braun could stay in RF and Upton could go to LF (that is his normal position, I think), or Braun could go back to LF and Hawpe could play RF. But of those players, Pence is the only one who could conceivably replace Beltran. However, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kemp or Victorino makes the team (either as replacement or voted in for the extra position), and they could play CF.
by clack on Jul 5, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want Hunter Pence to start!
Let me dream
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
GREAT PLAY Pudge Rodriguez
Bunt about 15 feet up the thrd abse line . Pudge runs it downand gets in throwing motion as he swirls into positon to nip the runner
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 4:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Left Shoulder Stain
Randy Johnson
That decrease in efficiency was enough for two Astros to hit homeruns off him
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 4:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Announcers not talking much about Roy Oswalt's performance today
He is shutting out the Giants through 7 innings
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 4:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have tro go run errands….hope the Astros lead stays right where it’s at (or gets bigger).
by clack on Jul 5, 2009 4:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
72 through 7
WOW that’s efficient
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roy's batting
Complete game in the works perhaps
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keppinger doubled Bourn home
Astros 5 Giants 0
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 5:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Roy Oswalt singled home two runs
Out trying for second.
Roy Oswalt now has as many hits in this game as the entire Giants team.
Astros lead 7-0
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 5:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Giants scored on homerun
7-1
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 5:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it doesn't look like Roy's ankle is bothering him
that slide he took into 2nd was nasty
by Joh on Jul 5, 2009 5:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't see the slide
I heard JD scream “No”
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roy was slow getting up
Giants announcers talked forever about how that the kind of mistake in sliding that leads to broken ankles…
by Joh on Jul 5, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LaTroy Hawkins to pitch the ninth
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 5:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ASTROS WIN 7-1
Great day for several players – Roy Oswalt leading the way.
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by Joe in Birmingham on Jul 5, 2009 5:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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