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Flashback to 2008: Was Michael Bourn the Worst Regular in Baseball?

In light of a recent post on Fangraphs that detailed the disastrous 2009 season of Brian Giles, I thought it may be interesting to jump in the Astro-TimeMachine to take a look at the 2008 campaign of Michael Bourn. Now, this may be a little painful for the young or the overly-squeamish, so paper bags and take signs will be your friend.

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This is indeed a strange worldfor those of us who have witnessed Michael Bourn's 2009 performances. Just a year prior, Bourn hardly ever walked (7.3% of total plate appearances), did not hit much for extra bases (19 for the entire season), and as a result had a sub .600 OPS.

In all of MLB last season where did Michael Bourn rank in various offensive categories? Well, in terms of distance from last:

Stat Category (Value) Rank
OBP (.288) Last
OPS (.588) Last
wOBA (.276) Last
WAR (-.1) 5th to Last
Value ($-.4) 5th to Last

 

That value stat tells us that he was worth -$400,000 to the Astros last season. Essentially, if you consider his salary that season, he had a net value of -$796,000. Luckily for Bourn, a number of players on the list of least valuable players in 2008 had big enough contracts to compensate for their meagnerness in actual value to their teams. So Kevin Millar, Ken Griffey, Jr. and others: a big thanks, courtesy of Michael Bourn.

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The results of that were not intuitive to me. I actually thought there’d be a lot more regulars around replacement level.

Interestingly, yesterday, the Fan Blogger at the chron was evaluating Wade’s trades. And I was looking at the numbers, and I think that, in terms of WAR, we’re going to win Lidge for Bourn.

Last year, as dominant as Brad Lidge was, 41-for-41, he was only worth 2.2 WAR. Bourn had a rough season, but I saw the Lidge-Bourn trade as one for years…trading a guy with only one year left before free agency for a gut with a lot less time on his clock. Anyway, a quick look at what Bourn has provided us with so far this season…2.0 WAR. That trade looks much better since Bourn flipped the switch.

by AstroAndy on Jun 19, 2009 8:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bourn is returning to the ability he showed in Philly...

He has improved because his plate discipline is similar to what it was in Philly and at AAA. From that perspective, it’s hard to criticize Wade. All you can expect from Wade is to make a good trade based on the available information at the time. And Bourn’s performance this year is more in line with what the available information showed. That information would indicate that Bourn has some flaws as a hitter which will keep him from becoming a superstar, but that he is good enough to be valuable.

If you criticize the Lidge-Bourn trade, it has to be based on claiming that Wade should have gotten more for Lidge. And it’s hard to know whether that is true or not. Last year, I said I would have preferred trading Lidge to the Mets for Milledge…but at this point in time, I look to be wrong (even though I still believe Milledge can be a good major leaguer—he is still very young—if a team manages his development better).

by clack on Jun 19, 2009 8:49 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Statistics aside though Philly won a World Series after the trade, that will hang over the trade unless the Astros win a World Series with Michael Bourn. From a financial and statistical stand point the Astros might come out on the better end of the trade, however in the grand scheme of things the Philly’s won a championship.

by timmy_ on Jun 19, 2009 9:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that doesn't make any sense.

What if the Red Sox had won a world series with Larry Andersen? Would any of us look back on that and say, “Dammit, we should have kept Andersen. We never won a championship with Bagwell, after all.”

At most, a world series win like that can be used to mitigate the loss of a younger player. Had Boston won it all that year, and had Andersen been a key part of that, then Red Sox faithful would be able to say, “This trade was bad, but a lot of good still came out of it.”

Your argument only makes sense if you think that the presence of Lidge in the Astros bullpen last season would have won the Astros a championship (well, and if you believe that the Phillies won because of Lidge, too. Lidge was important, and he was a great reliever last season, but he wasn’t what did it for the Phillies last year). And, no, Lidge would probably not have gotten the Astros into the playoffs, let alone into the World Series.

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by Only_A_Lad on Jun 19, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm as surprised as anyone

to what Bourn has turned into. He’s better than he was in the minors…and after watching last season, I was very skeptical that he would ever turn out. He’s been a little lucky so far this year (.376 BABIP) but with his speed and skillset he should be able to maintain a higher than average……average.

by AronV on Jun 19, 2009 10:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I love seeing what Bourn is doing

but unfortunately his .376 BABIP screams regression to the mean. By looking at 3 year averages in all the the MLB the highest has been Chipper Jones and Manny at .360, with most of the “High BABIP” guys resting in the .330 range. Regressing Bourn back to the the .330 BABIP range will drop is BA to the .250-260 range. Regressing him the the “norm” of .300 is even worse and hopefully because of Bourn’s new high LD% we will not have to think a bout that.

Is Bourn still worth being an everyday player with a .260 BA and a .320 OBP. Of course with his stellar defense and speed on the base paths. The problem is that a .320 OBP guy is not someone that should be the lead off man.

Hopefully he and Tejada keep this type of “Luck” going all season, but in the long run they will regress back to the established norms of BABIP and therefore so will their production.

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by laxtonto on Jun 19, 2009 10:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

see, it's that line drive rate that's key.

On the one hand, it’s unlikely that he can continue to hit line drives 23.4% of the time. On the other, MMP line drive rates are depressed, historically (and I think we all decided it was just a thing with the scorekeeper), so it might be that he’s hitting something a little higher than that. So maybe if he regresses, we still see him having a pretty great babip.

I think he’s just hitting the ball harder this year, he’s making better contact, and so his BABIP is skyrocketing. Yeah, he’s probably getting a little lucky, but we’ll see down the stretch.

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by Only_A_Lad on Jun 19, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't expect Bourn to have an average BABIP...

Michael Bourn is going to beat out more groundballs than Manny Ramirez. Its not unreasonable for someone as fast as Bourn to have a high BABIP. Will it be .376? Probably not. But .340 isn’t unreasonable, especially with his LD%.

by seanbergmanrules on Jun 19, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's one of the reasons my post above concentrated on plate discipline stats...

rather than just his batting average. His BB% is the highest it’s been since AAA. His K% is still too high, but it’s below last season and more in line with his season in Philadelphia. He is swinging at fewer balls outside the zone than last year, and more in line with his last season as a Philly. Pitchers are giving him fewer balls in the zone than in previous seasons and he is swinging at at lower percentage of them, but when he does swing at them, he makes a higher rate of contact. Those seem to me to be good fundamental signs.

ZIPS update projects Bourn wth a .348 OBP this year, which would be good enough to lead off.

by clack on Jun 19, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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