Astros Draft Preview - Part Four
There's a little over a week left until draft day and baseball websites are in full swing trying to figure out who goes where. So it seems like a good time for another Astros Draft Preview!
We've talked a lot about what the Brewers did as a way of indirectly figuring out what Bobby Heck might do. But that doesn't really account for what he might do a bit differently now that he's king of his own scouting department. So here we'll try to draw some conclusions from a very small sample size: just the 2008 Astros draft. We'll also look at what the Astros management and scouting staff has said to determine an overall draft philosophy.
"We're gearing toward complete players. We do play in the National League -- we want players who can handle all facets of game. Not one and two dimensional-type players." -- Scouting director Bobby Heck.
Every team says they're going to take the best player available, and every year some team gets criticized by the baseball media for appearing to draft based on organizational needs. The real question is how do teams define "best player available"? I actually think that organizational needs can and should be a factor in making draft day decisions, though not necessarily in the way people usually talk about.
A team with a thriving farm system (like the Rangers) and depth at almost every position should have a different strategy than if they had a farm system that is largely considered the worst in baseball (like your hometown Houston Astros). The better-stocked team can place a higher value on players with only one exceptional skill (a power bat, for instance) because they have a safety net in case that tool doesn't pan out...they've got other guys in their system. For a thinly-stocked team like the Astros, however, you can't always count on someone else picking up the slack. Their safety net has to be somewhere else. They have to put more value on guys who can do more than one thing so that a player whose bat fails to completely live up to expectations, for instance, can still be valuable with the glove. The guy has to be his own backup plan.
The quote that begins this segment also pretty much explains last year's pick of Jason Castro when everybody else (i.e. Jim Callis, etc.) was screaming that we should have taken U. of South Carolina 1B Justin Smoak with the tenth pick in the draft. The quote shows that Bobby Heck was basically refuting the idea that we would take Smoak almost a month before the draft rolled around. Given Heck's criteria, let's take a deeper look at both Smoak and Castro:
Smoak was highly lauded (and rightfully so) for his mighty power bat. Here's what his milb.com profile said about Smoak's power potential:
"He's got plus power now and in the future, from both sides of the plate. He could be a 35-40 homer guy at the big-league level."
But there are more tools than just power, and some of them are much harder to develop as you move through the minors...here's what milb.com said about those other tools (my notes in brackets):
- Running speed: "below average"
- Baserunning Skills: "not quite a baseclogger" [AA: damning with faint praise]
- Arm Strength: "good enough for first base"
- Fielding: "he's not bad around the base" [AA: notice that they couldn't bring themselves to actually call it average or good]
- Range: "The lack of footspeed and heavy lower half provide very limited range."
They went on to say that, defensively, he'd be limited to first base. Even then, the reviews of his fielding prowess weren't all that great and many have speculated that Smoak is going to be limited to DH. This probably does not fall into Bobby Heck's definition of a "complete player". In fact, it seems like the very definition of the "one and two dimensional-type players" that they don't want to bring into the system, particularly since we're a National League team.
Now how about Castro? His power, according to milb.com, was average with a chance to be plus, and he's got "more speed than most catchers" (which isn't fast, but at least he's above-average for his position). When it comes to baserunning, he's got the "ability to take the extra base." Probably the most important thing, though, is Castro's defense. He's got average arm strength, but his pop times (the time from catching the ball to delivering it to second base) are trending faster. He does a "terrific job framing the ball," and he's good at blocking pitches in the dirt.
In short, Castro has "legitimate power, some hittability and an improving set of defensive skills." This was enough for the scouting report to say that he's got the chance to be a good all-around catcher. The only weakness they list is that he sometimes has trouble dealing with the changeup. And we also know from his summer in the Cape Cod league that, if all else fails, Castro can hold up defensively at first base, since his teammate Buster Posey got the majority of starts at catcher.
So when compared side-by-side, it looks like Castro fits the Astros' stated draft philosophy far better than Smoak does.
What does this mean for this year's draft? I went through a bunch of names and identified a handful of "one-trick ponies" that various sources have suggested could go in the first round. These are some guys that Bobby Heck is not likely to take in this year's draft because they basically have a single tool (albeit an exceptional one):
- Jiovanni Mier - A high-school shortstop with exceptional defense, but questions still linger about his bat
- Rich Poythress - Tremendous raw power, but defensively limited to first base (Justin Smoak part 2?)
- Angelo Songco - A pure power player whose lack of speed essentially limits his effectiveness on the bases and in left field..maybe you get another Carlos Lee, but can you risk the possibility that his bat doesn't translate?
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This might make people mad
but could we trade Oswalt to a cross division rival, but for a few extra players. I know the Brewers want more starting pitching, and they might give up a little extra considering that the player is coming from a cross division rival
Big Numbers
personally, I don't like the idea of trading Oswalt to a division rival.
maybe, that’s just me…even though a look at the comments on Ortiz’s blog make me think a lot of people in the Astros’ fan base hate the idea. I would have a hard time thinking about Oswalt coming back to pitch against the Astros in a divisional match. Also, even though Ortiz mentioned that Oswalt might agree to play for the Cubs or Cards, he did not include the Brewers. For whatever reason, Peavy didn’t include the Brewers on his list of teams he would agree to play for. Also, my understanding is that the Brewers might have a problem picking up Peavy’s contract. And, if that’s the case, Oswalt’s contract would fall in the same category.
How does a team decide between position player and pitcher?
Astros seem to have drafted a high percentage of catchers early the past few years.
What do you expect this year to be the early choices this year? Fielders who can hit and run? Hitters who can field? or pitchers with hard stuff?
is there a hard hittingh top-drawer shortstop available anywhere?
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on May 31, 2009 10:30 PM CDT reply actions
Middle infield is really really really weak this year. It’d basically be a major reach to take any 2B or SS who is available at our spot in the draft.
There will be a lot of college pitchers taken between spots 5 and 20. A lot. But I think that category will be depleted by the time slot 21 rolls around.
There’s a lot of center field talent available this draft, too, though, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see us snag an all-around solid CF like AJ Pollock or Tim Wheeler. Also, given Heck’s love of athletes, LSU’s Jared Mitchell might be possible.
Didn't you write on a previous draft analysis
that Astros (and Heck) historically like high school pitchers over college pitchers (Or am I imagining things again?)? If so, any high school fireballers Astros may like?
Before I forget, I’ve enjoyed your draft previews.
Astros fan for life
by Joe in Birmingham on May 31, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Heck definitely seems to prefer not to take college pitching early. However, it’s not clear what he’d do if the best player available is college pitching, and this year’s draft class is exceptionally strong in college pitching. That being said, here are some high-schoolers that seem to fit the profile:
Garrett Gould seems to me the kind of guy that the Astros would be interested in…94 mph fastball, with a well-developed curveball, and he’s tall with room to fill out (and thus get more speed on his pitches).
Bryan Berglund also fits the mold, even though he doesn’t appear as well developed as Gould.
If they want to break with their “early RHP” tendencies, I like Tyler Skaggs, a high school lefty. Tall, skinny frame, good fastball, plus curveball.
My question is how do you get around the fact that a large portion of scouts
considered Smoak and excellent defender with the possibility of becoming a GG 1B?
Baseball America’s draft report
A switch-hitting first baseman with power, Smoak draws natural comparisons to Mark Teixiera. Drafted out of high school in the 16th round by the Athletics, he has started every game for South Carolina since arriving on the Columbia campus, doing nothing but produce. After batting .303 with 17 home runs, Smoak earned Freshman All-America honors. He followed that with a .315 batting average and 22 home runs in his sophomore year—enough to be tabbed as a third team All-American. He also competed for Team USA last summer. As a first baseman, Smoak has Gold Glove-caliber actions and soft hands. His footwork and instincts around the bag are advanced and his arm strength is adequate. As a hitter, he is consistent from both sides of the plate, and he has superior pitch recognition. A power threat against any pitch, Smoak has the ability to hit to all fields. Smoak proved his power translates to wood when he hit 11 home runs in 39 games while playing in the Cape Cod League following his freshman year, though he struggled with Team USA last summer. He is thought to be the best combination of offense and defense at first base in this draft class.Link
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Hotprospects.net
The Rangers were delighted to see the former South Carolina Gamecock and 1st team All-American fall to them at the 10th slot of the ‘08 draft. Smoak continued his torrid hitting at Low-A Clinton (.304 3 HR 6 RBI in 14 games) and in a brief stint in the Arizona Fall League. His smooth swing and easy power from both sides of the plate evokes comparisons to current MLB sluggers Mark Teixeira and Lance Berkman and, similar to those two, many baseball scouts think Smoak will have 35-40 HR power with a high average and solid plate discipline in the major leagues. Defensively, Smoak is a highly capable first baseman with an average arm, a very good glove and above average footwork around the bag. The biggest downside to Justin’s game right now is his below average speed on the basepaths. Given his profile as a run producing middle of the lineup hitter, this is a very minor detal.Link
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Baseball Intellect
The downside with Smoak is that he basically is what he is. He could add a little more weight to his frame, but he is already physically mature. He also will be solely limited to first base or DH if he is drafted by an AL team. While he may not have great range, he does show off pretty good hands and some even tout him as a great defensive first baseman.
From various scouting reports, Smoak does have good plate discipline and pitch recognition, though some think he does have some problems with off-speed pitches. Either way, coming into this year, he had walked more times than he struck out, which does indicate very good plate discipline.
Smoak should also have no problems transfering his power from aluminum bats to wood bats. His power is legit no matter what material the bat is made of.
I understand the worry about him being a 1B only player, but the implication that he is going to be slated towards DH or be a non complete player because of his defense is false.
He has legitimate power from both sides of the plate, an above average defensive resume for his position and an above average approach at the plate. There is no way he falls into the “1 trick pony” avenue of thinking. He was the best player available at the time and should have been the pick.
Nice write up on drafting philosophy, but to try and imply that Castro’s selection was totally based upon team strategy and noting to do with Smoak’s price tag completely ignores the huge elephant sitting in the corner. Is the team going to stay with or close to the slot recommendations or be willing to go over? That is the first question, before anything else can be decided.
Guess I got caught using only one source. Don’t know what happened there…usually I double-check milb.com’s scouting reports with pgcrosschecker and BA. Sorry I dropped the ball on that. I still stick by the generalities, but I agree with you that the Smoak/Castro example is not actually the best way to illustrate them.
That being said, I think there’s still good room for debate about whether Smoak was the best fit for the Astros with that pick. I’ve made my case here before, but I’ll rehash it. I agree that money probably played a disproportionate role in the decision-making process. The Astros do tend to stick close to slot money and Bobby Heck spent a lot of time as a scout for a team that didn’t really go over slot (Brewers). Smoak ended up signing for $3.5mil, but who knows what he told the Astros scouts that he wanted before the draft took place.
Another factor that probably played into the decision is that the Astros already had a powerful switch-hitting 1B in the majors who happens to be a franchise icon. And we’ve got a lumbering ox in LF who probably should be manning the first sack already and who shows no sign of going anywhere soon. Given how fast Smoak’s been moving through a well-stocked farm system (he’s raking at AA already), we would have had a logjam on our hands very quickly, particularly since we wouldn’t have a DH slot available to us. Could we trade him? Sure, but we couldn’t have gotten a full return for him since everyone would have known about our logjam. With all of the holes the Astros have to fill in their system, 1B was not one of them.
And finally, we can infer that Bobby Heck’s scouting crew factors positional rarity into their grading of potential draft picks. They’ve practically said as much in interviews. Good catchers tend to be much harder to find than good 1B. I don’t know how much of a positional adjustment is actually warranted, but my gut says that some kind of premium on the more difficult position makes sense.
It’s possible that Smoak turns out to be a once-in-a-generation talent, but the odds are that if we’d have drafted him, we wouldn’t have gotten to take advantage of him.
A large discount factor has to be applied to the value of a 1st baseman only player,
even if they are above average defensively at that position. A first baseman is easier to find and catchers are harder to find. If you look at the positional adjustments for Wins Above Replacement, the positional adjustment is more than 7 runs higher, comparing a catcher to a first baseman.



























