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Phil Rogers whispers about the Astros...

Let's get this out of the way.  Someone will bring it up.

Chicago Tribune writer Phil Rogers has a "whispers" column.  He suggests that the Astros will sign Adam Dunn to play RF and replace Bourn with Pence in CF. 

I believe this will happen. Not.

But here is his quote:

Houston is planning a sneak attack on the Cubs and might improve its chances of success if it signs Adam Dunn to a one-year deal before camp starts. Dunn, a 40-homer man for five straight seasons, would allow the Astros to move Hunter Pence to center field and Michael Bourn to the bench. That would mean a huge lift to run-production. Dunn has multi-year offers on the table, including one from Washington, but clearly isn't crazy about them. …

If you have seen some of my previous posts about Phil Rogers, you know that I am not a fan of his columns.  Sometimes it seems like he just makes crap up.

Let's see the problems with this rumor.  First, Adam Dunn and Carlos Lee in the same outfield should never happen.  Pence isn't great in CF, either.  The resulting defensive alignment would be untenable.  I have liked the idea of Dunn as an Astro hitter for some time, but I have to accept the fact that it is unlikely to happen as long as Lee holds down LF.  Second, anyone who has heard Wade talk about the Astros' budget constraints has to say, "who have you been talking to, Phil?"  The Astros don't seem to be willing to pay $3million, much less the high figure that Dunn might command.

It's not that I don't think Dunn's offensive profile wouldn't look good in the Astros lineup.  The anti-OBP lineup could use a dose of Dunn's OBP.  And the HRs would help too.  But the Astros don't play in a league with a DH.

If the Astros were to acquire Dunn (I know, I'm probably entering fantasy land), I would probably put Dunn in LF, Berkman in RF, and Lee at 1st base.  The outfield defense would still be very sub-par, but that it probably the best to make of it.  Dunn is an amazing -64 runs per 150 games in RF, according to UZR (yeah, that is a smaller sample size, but you get the idea: he has been more damaging in RF than LF).  Dunn also hasn't played 1st base well when he has done that.  Lee has hardly played 1st base, but he does have some infielder background.  Berkman in RF would be somewhat of a risk, but recall that he played an acceptable CF for the Astros earlier in his career.

OK, forget about it.

 

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Dunn deal?

Way back when, say 2006, I first heard rumors about Dunn coming to Houston.It seemed like a sure thing we would get Dunn at the 06 deadline, but we decided to pick up Aubry Huff. Then in 07, the Astros were on the verge again, but then we got Wiggington. There have been times when I really wish Dunn was up at the plate for the Astros, but don’t worry anti-Dunn people, because it won’t happen.

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by hunterpencefan on Feb 8, 2009 12:23 PM CST reply actions  

I remember rumors back in 2005.

Purpura should have done it back then. Oddly enough, Dunn has been more productive than Lee has (from what I remember, he even slightly edged out El Burro in defense last year), and he would have come at a fraction of the cost.

Oh, and Rogers is obviously talking out of his ass on this one.

by Only_A_Lad on Feb 8, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

One reason Dunn has been linked to the Astros so much...

is because he is from the Houston area and he has friends who are on the Astros. In 2005, Dunn caused a stir because he openly said he would welcome a trade to the Astros. Prior to Carlos Lee, the general assumption among many fans in both Houston and Cincinnati was that he would sign with the Astros when he became a free agent. Lee foreclosed that option, it seems. I recall an Astros fan who was beside himself, because he felt the Astros were so stupid to give Lee that much money when they could sign a stopgap in 07, and then sign Dunn in free agency.

by clack on Feb 8, 2009 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Recalling those Dunn trade rumors of old reminds me.....

of one of Jim Deshais’ better lines. It was 2005, near the trade deadline, and the rumors of a Dunn trade to the Astros are such a hot topic that Deshais and Brown are talking about it during the game. One of the Chronicle writers, either Justice or McTaggert, had written a column arguing that a Dunn trade would ruin the team’s chemistry. Brown said, ‘Some people worry that the Astros might upset their team chemistry." Deshais’ response: “I think 40 HRs and 120 RBIs creates a lot of team chemistry.”

by clack on Feb 8, 2009 4:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't be so sure

I know it seems like it shouldn’t happen, obviously due to a lousy outfield defense, but don’t be surprised if Uncle Drayton throws down some money to get another local boy into the lineup. I am not saying I agree with it, I just wouldn’t be surprised. Our OBP would definetly be better with Dunn than Bourn but our defense???

by mitch4ya on Feb 8, 2009 1:16 PM CST reply actions  

well...it would be interesting to watch...

if it happened. With the “interest” and “fascination” running the gamut between watching lots of runs score on both offense and defense. (I mean, there is even a fascination with train wrecks..) To that extent, it probably would increase fan interest.

by clack on Feb 8, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe...

We could finally convert Lee back to 3B, throw Dunn in LF, and then have the worst left-side defense imaginable.

I’ll be shocked if this happens that I’ll pee myself.

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by Stephen Higdon on Feb 8, 2009 1:38 PM CST reply actions  

let's do it

replacing the offensive black hole that is MBourn has to be worth it.

by lnewcomer on Feb 8, 2009 4:58 PM CST reply actions  

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