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Ed Wade admits that he at least tried to sign another pitcher...he just made low ball offers at the last second and hoped that would work...

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Looper signed for only 4.75 million with the Brewers...

so Wade must have hoped he could get an even better deal. What do you guess? $3 or $ 4 million?

by clack on Feb 14, 2009 1:20 PM CST reply actions  

There are incentives that bump it up about a million I think plus the buyout on year 2. FWIW, Looper lives in Chicago so he can kick it with the family now and then and I think there is a suite that families can use if they head up to Miller. I wonder if signing him will be a good thing or a bad thing. He’s a career reliever who did pretty well starting for two years with the Cards who didn’t offer him arbitration. Most comments I read is that it is a great signing but what if he is Suppan version II?

by ol Pete on Feb 14, 2009 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

The Suppan comparison...always possible.

But Looper does have a better strike out rate than Suppan, which is always a good thing for a player that age. When the Brewers signed Suppan, I was not as high on him as many other people (I recall some fans who wanted the Astros to sign Suppan). Suppan had declining K rates, and he really lives and dies with his team’s defense. As a groundballer, Looper also depends on his defense, but he has better stuff, as indicated by the fact that he can get a K now and then.

by clack on Feb 14, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

From what I gathered

Wade probably underbid by a million-ish and then put in the mutual options…which makes no sense. Obviously these guys are seeking one year deals for a reason.

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by Stephen Higdon on Feb 14, 2009 5:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I should add that it's hard to say whether it is bad negotiating....

or just a very tight fisted owner. Wade may not have been able to go any farther.

by clack on Feb 14, 2009 1:22 PM CST reply actions  

Wade did say that had they signed either Wolf or Looper, they would have had to free up payroll somehow.

by AstroAndy on Feb 14, 2009 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Wonder who he had in mind?

My guess is that he would try to trade a relief pitcher. The Astros are well stocked in that area, and a guy like Geary is high priced, if you are going to use him as a middle reliever.

by clack on Feb 14, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

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