Astros close to Lindstrom deal...maybe...well...you know how it goes
by Stephen Higdon on Dec 9, 2009 4:30 PM CST
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[UPDATE] Gammons is reporting that Lindstrom is flying to Houston for a physical with team doctors. Still no word on the players involved in the trade. (h/t) OremLK.
So the news has been spotty all day with this Lindstrom deal. There's absolutely no word on who the prospects would be. There's no word on if it would just Lindstrom from the Marlins. There's just knowledge that the Astros are trying to acquire Matt Lindstrom from the Florida Marlins.
One minute I read this from Ken Rosenthal:
So that makes one think, I guess we'll know exactly what's happening in just a few minutes. But then McTaggart had this just a few minutes later from Wade:
"We may be back you guys with something by the end of the night. We hope so."
Then Footer got this from Wade a few minutes after that:
Lindstrom certainly has the experience, but are we really in a position to trade prospects for Lindstrom? I'm not sure what the Marlins would ask for, but I also don't think we have anyone we can even part with that won't cause us to flinch in agony when we read the name.
Now McTaggart is stating the following (I guess we'll know soon):
Lindstrom tells MLB.com Astros and Marlins exchanging medical records
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Lindstrom would be okay if we're buying low
He had a bad year, but got bit by a high BABIP and low LOB%. The nice thing would be that he shouldn’t be too expensive, leaving more room for a third baseman.
However, if we’re giving up any of our top ten prospects I’m going to be pretty frustrated with Wade and co. If it’s rookie ball and older guys and marginal prospects, okay.
by OremLK on Dec 9, 2009 4:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if there is any possibility that the Astros could trade for both Lindstrom and Uggla? Lindstrom would reduce the Astros’ closer costs by a lot, and it might leave enough room that the Astros could afford Uggla’s arb salary. That might cover both the closer and 3d base hole at a cost of perhaps $7 million. However, that entirely speculative scenario might require a high cost in prospects. But if the Astros are going to give up any prospects for Lindstrom, I would feel better if we at least got someone like Uggla back in return. By the way, Uggla most likely will be either traded or non-tendered, which should reduce what the Marlins can ask for.
Lindstrom is in his first year of arb eligibility and was paid $400 K last year. He probably will cost about $1 M or less. Uggla is in his second year of arb eligibility and was paid $5 M. He probably gets another million or so in arbitration this year.
by clack on Dec 9, 2009 4:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That would be very nice
As long as the trade doesn’t require Castro, Lyles, Mier, or Norris.
by OremLK on Dec 9, 2009 4:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
at this point nothing would surprise me
Eddy needs his bullpen..
by robolundgren on Dec 9, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Reports are the deal is done
For who, is the question.
by OremLK on Dec 9, 2009 4:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You would hope he isn’t too costly given his bad year last season….
I guess we will find out.
by clack on Dec 9, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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Why exactly would the Marlins package Uggla and Lindstrom in a deal that doesn’t get them Castro, Lyles, Mier, or Norris?
It’s unbelievable how idealistic people can be. We’re not getting Uggla. We don’t have the trade chips for him and we already have plenty of money committed to the 2nd base position anyway.
by roswalt44 on Dec 9, 2009 4:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Uggla can play 3d base. The Marlins may end up non-tendering Uggla, which creates a huge incentive for the Marlins to get what they can for him.
by clack on Dec 9, 2009 4:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the last I read, the Marlins couldn’t get teams to offer much of anything for Uggla because they are convinced he will be non-tendered and available on the market. The Marlins cannot afford Uggla. And he is pissed at the Marlins and doesn’t want to come back.
by clack on Dec 9, 2009 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Getting Uggla would be pretty sweet
But I’m not holding my breath.
by entropic soul on Dec 9, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just humor me
I don’t really have a good idea of what it would take to get Lindstrom and Uggla: But would something like this be kind of what you guys would think could get it done?
To Astros: Uggla, Lindstrom
To Marlins: Erick Abreu, Polin Trinidad, Matt Weston, Jack Shuck
More? Less?
by baggs on Dec 9, 2009 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
WAY
more. I think it would take 3 of our top 15 prospects. Think Seaton, Towles, and Steele.
by Snake Diggity on Dec 9, 2009 5:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about that
Lindstrom is a DL regular and Uggla may be non-tendered. If even one of our top 10 are sent I would be furious
by baggs on Dec 9, 2009 5:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Uggla would thrive in MMP
He is the definition of a dead pull hitter. I could see him hitting 35+ HR’s with mmp as his home ballpark.
He should have a good year too. In 2009, BB’s were up, K’s were down. BABIP is due a nice increase to career average.
I am starting to really like this idea.
by baggs on Dec 9, 2009 5:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be surprised
to see Towles and one other prospect (Chris Johnson, one of the guys we got from Texas in the Pudge deal, Jay Austin, Locke, DeLome, Clemens, hell it could be anybody). If we didn’t give up one of our top 15 prospects, it’s a good deal. He has high ceiling and will be cheap this year. If we gave up a 6-15 prospect, I won’t like it, but it won’t be a disaster. If we gave up Norris, Lyles, Mier, Castro, or Seaton, I’m going to be pissed.
If Towles is included I expect him to do well in Florida.
by Snake Diggity on Dec 9, 2009 5:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I may be wrong on this
But I don’t think Mier can be traded yet. I believe once a player is drafted he has to play for a certain amount of time (I’m thinking its a year but I’m not sure) before he can be traded to another team.
by Astrofan on Dec 9, 2009 5:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Peter Gammons says
The deal, pending physicals, will send Lindstrom to the Houston in exchange for two minor leaguers and the Astros’ first pick in Thursday’s Rule 5 draft, sources told ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark.
by astrosfanforever on Dec 9, 2009 5:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Rule 5 pick isn’t a big deal. But two minor leaguers could be….obviously depending on whom they are.
by clack on Dec 9, 2009 5:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
someone on Astrodaily board is quoting an unlinked source as saying the two minor leaguers are Robert Bono (A level pitcher) and Bryan Bono (GCL 19 yo shortstop).
by clack on Dec 9, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald tweets that the Marlins obtain righty Robert Bono and shortstop Luis Byran for Lindstrom, says MLBTradeRumors.
by AlmostReluctant on Dec 9, 2009 5:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i’m guessing these reports put an end to any Dan Uggla hopeful speculation
by Rhombus67 on Dec 9, 2009 5:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
well, certainly as part of this trade. not that Uggla won’t be subject to continued trade rumors up til the non tender deadline. Uggla will be traded.
by clack on Dec 9, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
from rotoworld
Astros acquired RHP Matt Lindstrom from the Marlins for RHP Robert Bono, SS Luis Bryan and a player to be named later.
The Marlins had high hopes for Lindstrom this past year, but he missed nearly six weeks due to elbow inflammation and wound up with a lousy 5.89 ERA, 1.65 WHIP and 39/24 K/BB ratio in 47 1/3 innings. He’ll get a fresh start in Houston, where save opportunities may be in the cards.
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Dec 9, 2009 6:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not as bad as I feared
Bono’s ceiling is likely #5 starter, which is easily replaceable. It’s harder to say about Luis Bryan, but he was quite good in 111 PA. I guess the Astros are banking on Mier blocking him, though a shortstop can theoretically play any infield position, so if Bryan’s bat develops well this could come back to bite us.
I don’t like us giving up the Rule 5 pick if it’s true. I think that’s the worst part of this deal. There are some—not many, but some—mid/back rotation starting pitchers available, and some infielders. I would have liked to see us get one of the very best players available in the draft and let him start.
by OremLK on Dec 9, 2009 6:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The rule 5 is a crap shoot anyway, last year the Stros didn’t pick up anyone of significance. The year before the Stros did pick up Wright, but Wright at this point is just a lefty reliever until he proves otherwise.
by timmy_ on Dec 10, 2009 7:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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