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Astros Hot Stove Noise 12/09: Hawkins could be a Brewer? Wade talking trade for Lindstrom? and a hefty surprise, too

The winter meeting this year have been phenomenal to follow via Twitter. Unfortunately, the tweeting yesterday was primarily about a lot of non-news—save the Yankees/Tigers/Dbacks blockbuster.  Today, for Astros fans, things have heated up on the stove.

The first chunk of news this morning is that the Brewers are having "fast-track" talks with LaTroy Hawkins.  Per our discussion about the closer situation yesterday, I'm cool with the Brewcrew over paying for Mr. Hawkins' service. The more I've thought all of our options out, the more I've fallen in love with idea of a Alberto Arias / Mike Gonzalez platoon. Whether any of the news about Hawkins and the Brewers actually means the Brewers will ink Hawkins, or if Hawkins has interest, remains to be seen. I just hope this doesn't mean we're raising our bottom line on Hawkins.

The more surprising bit of news from this morning is that the Astros are apparently in extensive talks with the Marlins for Matt Lindstrom.  Yes, Matt Lindstrom of the 4.47FIP/4.65xFIP/5.04tRA in 2009.  The same Lindstrom of the non-impressive 2009 and not projected to be too much improved in 2010, either (CHONE and Bill James).  Say it ain't so Eddy.  

There's no word on who would be involved in this deal, but I don't think anyone here would be too pleased. We're not a team in a position to trade for big-league talent, we're a team in a position to either purchase it on the market, or unload a veteran contract for youth.  That's it.

Unfortunately, it looks like Eddy is in the works on a trade.  Footer tweeted that Wade's had a lot of discussion about a possible trade.  Judging by the rumor mill, this trade sounds like it's either Lindstrom, or Rafael Soriano. Of course, the later is just something more speculative by JJO, who I don't even believe is at the winter meetings, but those are the only two trades that have any legitimate basis tagged to the Astros. JJO's reasoning on the trade is basically that one team has too many closers, one team has too few, and that Ed Wade likes Soriano's agent.  This doesn't exactly make a ton of sense.  That's not exactly why a trade would get done, seemingly—I hope.

The only way I'd like the Soriano deal, is it involved this ridiculously far fetched rumor about Carlos Lee being a trade candidate for the Braves.  I would take Soriano for Lee straight up.  It would make my entire life 2009-2010 winter.

Since that's not happening, I will continue to cross my fingers all day and wait for the news that the Astros have inked Mike Gonzalez and that LaTroy Hawkins got over paid by the Brewers.

[UPDATE] It's looks like Ed Wade really might being trying to trade for a closer. He indicates in this McTaggart interview that we have pieces that make sense for a trade.  Hopefully Bobby Heck chokes him out before he can pick up his cell phone and tell some other GM "deal."

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I recall something in the media in the 2008 preseason, I think, indicating thTat the Astros wanted to trade for Lindstrom. The Astros (or Wade) may have had a long burning desire for him. Why…I’m not sure. The trading pieces necessary for that might be scary.

I’m not sure that a Soriano trade would be very expensive (trade-wise). Everyone knows that the Braves have to unload him. They have to get rid of his potential salary in order to move forward with their off-season. And the Braves didn’t plan on having him. Soriano has to approve the trade (due to arb rules) and reportedly the Astros are one of only three or four teams which he has approved.

by clack on Dec 9, 2009 11:19 AM CST reply actions  

Maybe, just maybe, ole Ed has worked out a deal for Huston Street and no one else at the Winter Meetings has found out about it yet. Drayton does love bringing in former Texas athletes.

by David Coleman on Dec 9, 2009 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

the last I read, the Rockies were having difficulty on reaching contract terms with Street (an extension maybe?). If the Rockies take the Astros to the cleaners AGAIN (see: Jason Jennings trade), Drayton going to get some bad publicity.

by clack on Dec 9, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

as long as Tim Purpura doesn’t sneak into the GM suite I think we’re good.

by timmy_ on Dec 9, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

JJO wasn’t my reference for the Soriano trade possibility, but I can’t seem to find the article or twitter right now. It was a national reporter who linked the Astros to a Soriano trade, I think. But here’s what doesn’t make sense to me about trading for Soriano….if you trade (and give up player(s)), then you would expect him to do it in order to get a low salary player. But Soriano still has to go through arbitration, and could be due for $7 million or so. Maybe Wade views Lindstrom as relatively cheap.

While we are talking about former Astros coming back to haunt the Astros in the NL Central…Tony LaRussa is pressing his front office to sign Tejada. And then you would have the Brewers who just signed Randy Wolf and probably will sign Hawkins.

by clack on Dec 9, 2009 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I saw the article you’re talking about. Was it Aaron Gleeman or JC Bradbury? Both had references to the Astros trading for Soriano, plus Jon Heyman may have had a note too. There have been WAY too many Twitter updates since Monday to keep straight.

by David Coleman on Dec 9, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe I should hop back on twitter to help keep track of them all =P

by timmy_ on Dec 9, 2009 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Carlos Lee

Just to piggy back on that article about trading Lee to the Braves. If we ignore the NTC for a second, who would trade Lee for Soriano and Vazquez trade?

by baggs on Dec 9, 2009 12:43 PM CST reply actions  

That will never, ever happen. A blockbuster bad contract trade of Lee for Lowe plus some other moving parts is more plausible, but again, you come back to Lee’s ironclad NTC. He won’t waive it. We’re stuck with him.

by OremLK on Dec 9, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

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