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My first reaction: Feliz isn't a bad choice.



Twitter from McTaggert reports that the Astros have signed Philly 3d baseman Pedro Feliz.  Whether this is a good or bad move might depend on the salary and term of the contract which is currently undisclosed.(Update: $4.5 mil for 1 year...not bad at all) Generally, Feliz isn't my top choice for third base, but I don't think he is a bad choice, given the Astros current in house options.  Feliz has some power but his on base skills are poor.  He would be a fine addition to a team with decent overall OBP, but that's not a description of the Astros.  Feliz's value is enhanced considerably by his defense.  He is one of the best defensive third basemen in the majors.  And he will help Astros' pitchers with good groundball rates.  Feliz is a dead pull hitter to LF, and he might find the Crawford Boxes quite to is liking.  Feliz only hit one HR last year which wasn't to LF.  Over his career, Feliz's left/right splits are approximately the same (OPS).  Last year, Feliz's OBP was somewhat better against RHP.  In 86 PA in MMP over his career, Feliz has a .856 OPS with 5 homers.

Next question: does this hurt Keppinger's chances of staying with the Astros?  I hope he isn't non-tendered, but the possibility might exist.  In my view, Keppinger is necessary as the only true shortstop back up to Manzella, or a replacement for Manzella if he can't cut it.

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Feliz is an elite defender at third base (15.5 career UZR/150), but his bat is pretty similar to Geoff Blum’s; he batted .266/.308/.386 this year for the Phillies. His defense has declined a little in recent years, but it is still quite good.

He should provide decent value for the money, but seems a little redundant with Blum and Keppinger both providing similar bats. He may be a defensive upgrade, though, and if Manzella is as good as advertised, the left side of the infield should be a wall.

by OremLK on Dec 10, 2009 12:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

He’s better than Blum…Blum had a a .705 OPS in his best year since 2002. Feliz has been Mr. Consistency (according to fangraphs), putting up a low-700’s OPS basically since 2005. And given that the Astros collectively put up a .664 OPS at 3B last season, it’s an upgrade even if Feliz declines a bit.

by AstroAndy on Dec 10, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

OPS overvalues slugging

Pedro Feliz wOBA 2009/career: .302/.306
Geoff Blum wOBA 2009/career: .298/.302

Granted, Bill James is projecting Feliz to bat for .304 wOBA to Blum’s .289 next season, so it might be a bit of an upgrade. James doesn’t have a crystal ball though (and if he did, I’d feel pretty depressed about Bourn’s chances next year.)

by OremLK on Dec 10, 2009 1:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Keppinger

Well, i really hope they keep Kepp around to be a good veteran backup to Manzella and Matsui. He can play all 4 infield positions( he reminds me of a better hitting Bruntlett), but i also like Maysonet when he was up last year too and he is a cheaper option. I like Blum being able to be 3b and 1b backup. And besides finding another lefty starter, i’m starting to like the shape of our roster. I’m o.k. with us allowing a rookie be the 4th OF.

by KP in H-town on Dec 10, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I like the signing

If you loook at Feliz’s OPS last year it look like he had a very nice first half with .756 Ops but must have worn down towards the end of the year with a .625 OPS after the Allstar break, this could be a sign that he was just worn down last year because he did play in over 150 games. Seeing as we don’t have Cooper around any more, who was unable to ever give players a day off, maybe Mills will let Feliz have more days off throughout the year and this might improve his overall production.

by Z-Dub on Dec 10, 2009 2:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Feliz had a back injury at some point last season. You could probably look it up and see his splits before and after

by AstroAndy on Dec 10, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

UZR has been mentioned above. Looking at Dewan’s +/- for Feliz:

Over the last three years he is +34 runs at 3d base. His defense declined when he went to Philly. In San Francisco, he was the Adam Everett of third basemen with 45 runs saved over the two year period, 2006-2007. He dropped to +5 runs each of the last two years in Philly. It’s hard to know how much of that is due to decline in ability vs. changes in playing conditions, ballpark, etc. One of the big differences between Philly and SF is that he was just destroying players who bunted when he was with the Giants. He was only 1 run above average last year in handling bunts, compared to 6 runs above average in handling bunts in 2006. It is possible that factors like field conditions and defensive alignment, as well as opposing hitters’ liklihood of bunting, could affect those numbers.

by clack on Dec 10, 2009 2:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

If anything

I think Johnson’s impacted. I don’t see how the front office could justify DFAing Kepp with Manzella and Matsui as our up the middle starters.

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by Stephen Higdon on Dec 10, 2009 2:23 PM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Bill James...

has Chris Johnson having a better 2010 than Feliz.

[I assume the platoon is still on btw]

by byronlhsdrmr on Dec 10, 2009 2:38 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but

Not by much, and Johnson seems to be a much worse defender.

by OremLK on Dec 10, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not by much...

and about four million dollars. Stick Johnson’s slightly better numbers in there, save four million, do not sign Lyon, save five million and SIGN A FA SP FOR 9 MILLION!!!

by byronlhsdrmr on Dec 10, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you’re vastly underestimating the value of Pedro Feliz’s defense. FanGraphs had him at $5.7 million of value this season, with below replacement-level batting. Feliz’s defense alone may be worth $4 million while Johnson may be replacement level or worse on defense.

Also, I’d like to see Johnson given another year at AAA to focus strongly on strike zone discipline. He strikes out too much and doesn’t take enough walks. I’ve heard it said that it’s difficult to work on that stuff at the big league level and it’s better to do it in the minors.

by OremLK on Dec 10, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Here's those numbers

Feliz
2010 Bill James 5.6 BB% 14.0 K% .296 OBP .400 SLG .696 OPS .147 ISO .304 wOBA

Johnson
2010 Bill James 4.7 BB% 22.5 K% .300 OBP .425SLG .725OPS .159 ISO .315 wOBA

by byronlhsdrmr on Dec 10, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

CHONE's projections, by the way

Johnson
.242/.283/.372

Feliz
.252/.296/.391

by OremLK on Dec 10, 2009 2:56 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I really don't buy those projections of James for Chris Johnson...

Maybe we’ll get a third source of projections when ZIPS gets to Johnson. Johnson’s MLE from his Round Rock period shows a major league equivalent OPS in the .650 range. I think Johnson has to show a lot more plate discipline (either higher walks or lower Ks) to demonstrate that he can advance from AAA to the majors. If Johnson had Feliz’s defensive ability, it might be more reasonable to advance him. But that is also something that Johnson needs to work on.

by clack on Dec 10, 2009 3:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm starting to feel

as if the Stros should of at least waited until after the non-tendered period to see who was available.

by timmy_ on Dec 10, 2009 3:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

that's a hard call.

It depends on whether other teams were zeroing in on Feliz, making Wade think that he would lose Feliz or have to pay more for him if he waits. The Orioles and Red Sox were among the teams connected to to Feliz rumors. On the other hand, if Wade was really interested in bringing back Tejada, he might have gotten Tejada to lower his demands if he waited. I suppose Uggla might be a possibility if he is non-tendered, but I think he may get paid more than Wade wants to pay if he escapes team control.

by clack on Dec 10, 2009 9:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s definitely a risk, but it’s a cost effective list. The reason why Feliz and other free agents want to sign before the non-tendered deadline is because more players in the pool, in theory, would force them to drop their asking price. The Astros aren’t going to contend next year I see no reason why the Stro have to rush to sign players now.

by timmy_ on Dec 11, 2009 7:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

3rd place here we come!

by jmike on Dec 10, 2009 8:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Why are you so optimistic?

How do you see the Astros moving up from fifth to third?

Is Brad Mills that good?

Astros fan for life

by Joe in Birmingham on Dec 10, 2009 9:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha!

Putting on my rose-tinted glasses, hopefully Oswalt and Berkman avoid trips to the DL this year. Matsui plays like it’s 2008, and Norris and Paulino have good years. Also, the team defense should be very good this year if Manzella sticks at short.

And Holliday, Pineiro, and DeRosa leave the Cardinals.

by jmike on Dec 12, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Brewers will be a significant threat

They’ve been shoring up some weaknesses in free agency. I could see them making a strong push for the division.

Will we have a chance… yes, probably. But at this point, I would still feel safer betting on fifth place than first, or even second.

by OremLK on Dec 12, 2009 8:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If wade would have offered hawk arb. he would have a perfect offseason going, if hawk accepted we wouldnt have overpaid for lyons, and if he declined and still decided to sign elsewhere we could have gotten another first rounder; my biggest problem is that if the stros were willing to pay that kind of money to a similar guy like lyons, why not offer arb. to hawkins first?

i had an interesting thought today so i decided to ask you’ll this question,

would you trade berkman to the braves for Derek Lowe and Jason Heyword, if they agreed to pay a portion of Lowe’s salary?

do you think the braves would do it?

by strosfan31 on Dec 10, 2009 10:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i dont think there is any way they would give up heyward, what if it was freeman and a top pitching prospect like rohrbough

by strosfan31 on Dec 10, 2009 10:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What I don’t like about those ideas, from the Astros’ perspective: Lowe is overpaid and Berkman is not. For next year, it is more likely that Berkman justifies his salary than Lowe. And you extend the overhang of large contracts, since you exchange a contract which terminates in 2010 for a contract which terminates in 2012. Now, if you trade Lee for Lowe, I think it would be more reasonable, since both contracts expire in 2012. However, neither Lee or Berkman will approve the trade, so it’s not worth a lot of thinking.

by clack on Dec 11, 2009 7:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why Wade didn't offer Hawkins arb

I suspect Wade and McLane were worried that Valverde was going to accept arbitration, and if he did, they were planning not to sign anymore relief pitchers since he would take up around $9-10 million on the payroll.

However, I agree with you completely, it was a dumb move not to offer arbitration to Hawkins. Had both Valverde and Hawkins accepted, we would be spending only a little more than what we’re spending now. The bullpen would be much stronger, third base just a little weaker. Plus, the chances of Valverde accepting arb were always very slim.

I think they allowed fear of an unlikely worst case scenario convince them into making a bad decision.

by OremLK on Dec 11, 2009 12:42 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Astros FO thought that no one would give Hawk a 2-year deal, and the one-year-plus-option deal at $4M would be the high bid without offering arbitration. If so, that was a miscalculation, but a reasonable mistake to make…Hawk is going into his age 37 season and has been living on one-year deals since 2004.

Don’t forget, though, that Hawkins was a type A. I seriously doubt the Brewers would have signed him if it would have cost them draft picks. And offering Hawk arbitration with an offer already on the table would have come across to Hawk and his agent as bad-faith negotiating, since it would have dealt a serious blow to Hawk’s market value as a free agent. There’s no sense in ticking him off if you’re going to bring him back on the team. Offering him arbitration would have been a flat-out cutthroat negotiation move, and the Astros don’t need that reputation when they are living and dying based on free agent deals.

by AstroAndy on Dec 11, 2009 10:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

but, even if the brewers would not have signed him, another team would have, or you would have lowered his value and made it cheaper for us to resign him

by strosfan31 on Dec 11, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That may be true

But to me that just moves the mistake backward one step. It signifies they shouldn’t have put an offer on the table before the deadline for offering arbitration.

by OremLK on Dec 11, 2009 11:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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