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We haven't really discussed it here, but you may have seen a certain slugger from up north won another MVP award. No, not Joe Mauer, it's Albert "Killer of Dreams" Pujols. If you're counting, that's his third MVP trophy and eighth finish in the top five. In fact, the only season Pujols hasn't finished in the top five in his career was a ninth-place finish in 2007. That would be when the Dominican native hit .327/.429/.568 with 103 RBIs and 99 runs scored.

Did you realize that there have only been five MVP winners this decade in the National League? Barry Bonds, Jeff Kent, Pujols, Ryan Howard and JImmy Rollins are the only players to win the award in the 2000s. Obviously, Pujols is the only player from the NL Central to make the list, but what's remarkable is how often other teams in the Central have won the award compared to the Astros.

Take the Cardinals. In the 98 years the MVP award has been given out, 20 Cardinals have won. Cincinnati is next with 11 total MVP while the Cubs have 10. Pittsburgh has seven MVPs while Milwaukee has three MVP wins from its time in the American League. So, the Astros are last in the NL Central with only one MVP win in the franchise's 48 years of existence.

Obviously, if Pujols retired after next season, he'd be a sure-fire Hall of Famer. Since he's going into his Age 30 season, that seems unlikely. If it's not bad enough that The Soulcrusher is staying around for a while, there were nine other NL Central players that got MVP votes this season. Miguel Tejada was the only Astro to get a vote, and he was the lowest finisher of all 10 NL Central vote-getters.

So, the question of the day is this: why don't Houston players fare better in MVP voting and are there any players on the current 40-man roster with a decent chance at winning the award?

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Over the years, the Astros have been known more as a team which leaned toward pitching over offense. Pitchers almost never win the MVP. However, the Astros at least have a couple of Cy Young winners and CYA runners up over the team history. (We probably could come up with more Astros pitchers who should have won the CYA, but didn’t, than offensive players who should have won the MVP.) It’s possible that the Astrodome suppressed the chance for a MVP in some years. Who knows if a Jimmy Wynn or Cesar Cedeno might have won a MVP if they had hit more HRs in a smaller ballpark. Maybe Bagwell would have won more than one MVP if his peak years had been in a different ballpark.

It’s hard for me to say “we was robbed” on the MVP, because I can’t I recall an occasion when an Astros hitter should have won it without any reservations. Lance Berkman might have gotten my MVP vote in 2006, and indeed he finished 3d behind Ryan Howard (1st) and Pujols (2d). But the stats were close enough between those three that I can’t say Berkman should have been a clear cut winner. Berkman has been unlucky to have his peak years at the same time that Bonds and Pujols were rampaging. Berkman has finished 3d twice, 5th twice, and 7th once for MVP. Morgan Ensberg was 4th in the MVP in 2005, and I probably would have put him higher, but even an Astros fanboy would have a hard time putting him above Pujols in 05. If anyone should have gotten more attention in the 2000’s, it’s that Roy Oswalt probably should have 1 or more CYAs.

by clack on Nov 27, 2009 8:22 AM CST reply actions  

As I thought about Cy Young Award “should have beens,” I come back to Nolan Ryan. As an Astros pitcher, Ryan finished 1st in ERA in both 1981 and 1987, (1.69 and 2.76), but was only 4th and 5th in CYA voting in those years. Ryan had some really bad luck with Ws and Ls as an Astros’ starter. He was 11-5 in 81 and 8-16 in 1987. For all of those media blowhards who complain about Lincecum winning a CYA with only 15 wins, that would really have blown their minds if Ryan had won the CYA with a losing record. But based on pure run prevention, Ryan may have deserved it.

by clack on Nov 27, 2009 8:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Realistically, Berkman is the only Astro position player of the 2000s to have put up multiple MVP-caliber seasons, but each year he’s done it (2001, 2004, 2006) he’s been beat out by multiple other guys having even better seasons. I’d probably consider him one of the top ten hitters of the decade, so it’s a shame that he’s never been able to win one.

by OremLK on Nov 27, 2009 4:57 PM CST reply actions  

And to answer the second part of your question...

… “barring someone having a miracle season, no.”

Hi, my name is Rich and I'm an Astroholic.

by Austin Astroholic on Nov 27, 2009 6:49 PM CST reply actions  

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